I see a distinct lack of a Lyran carrier pallet in production. An interesting choice.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Wednesday, April 15, 2020 - 12:09 pm: Edit

Well, they did build a CVL which used up the FFF. I imagine that the Lyrans didn't want to pay 12EPs for another 6 fighters at this moment in time. And as it looks like most of the Lyran TGCs are heavily engaged in Battle Tugging and logistics, probably not super vital that it happens right this moment.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Wednesday, April 15, 2020 - 07:24 pm: Edit

CT6

This just in, the Coalition discovered a pile of cripples that they forgot to fix, so the Lyrans and the Klingons each ended up with about 14 EPs in treasury (spending an extra 15 EPs on repairs between the two of them).

The Coalition had no raids in the raid phase, and have started moving; in Hydran space, they rounded up the province raiders, and have started piling ships in the Hydran Capital.

Lots more to happen.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Saturday, April 18, 2020 - 07:56 am: Edit

CT6

Moves are well underway.

In Hydran space, the Coalition poured tons of ships into 0617, have a small force attacking devastated planet 0416, have moderate forces attacking devastated planet 0718, BATS 0318, previously untouched planet 0519, and mobs are beating up province raiders inside of Lyran space. It seems like most ships have moved that are gonna move.

In Kzinti space, so far, 16 ships are retaking planet 1001 (undefended), a mob are piling on some random Kzinti in 1101, a mob are pilling on a small group of Kzinti in 1701. There are a lot of Coalition ships left to move, but not a ton for them to attack at this point.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Sunday, April 19, 2020 - 08:15 am: Edit

CT6

Moves are finished, reserves are deployed!

On the Hydran front, there are 7 battle hexes. 2 mobs in South Lyran space mugging province raiders (the Hydrans will lose a couple HNs); BATS 0318 under attack by 10 ships and defended by 3 (BATS will die); devastated planet 0416 is attacked by 4 Klingons and will be saved by a modest reserve that showed up; planet 0519 is under attack and might be saved by another modest reserve showing up (there are 11 motley Coalition vs a TR, S2C, 9FF, and 2PDUs); planet 0718 will be recaptured by a handful of ships, and in 0617, there are about 125 Coalition ships (including some actual carriers finally! The Klingons have about 55 fighters in the hex as well); the Hydrans have 55 ships, some Auxes, a giant pile of fighters, and have 10PDU+SB over Hydrax, 2 untouched major planets, 1 untouched minor planet to fight over this turn. It seems possible that the Coalition could take the Capital this turn, but more likely they'll strip PDUs and then take it next turn. But we'll see! The Coalition did not go to SB 0215 this turn.

On the Kzinti front, only 3 battle hexes; in 1001 a mob is going to kill an FF in a pile of small garrison units; in 1701, a mob is fighting some garrison units and then a reasonable reserve that showed up; it is unclear who will keep the hex, but the Kzinti have a lot more fighters to work with. The Coalition sent a giant pile of ships to finally kill BATS 1805 over in the SE corner of Kzinti space; the Kzinti sent a reserve to fight, but the Coalition will certainly kill the BATS. The Coalition did not attack the Kzinti capital this turn (it is currently completely devastated, except for Kzintai at 20PDUs), and even if the Kzinti give up hex 1701, the Marquis Zone will reman connected to the main grid.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Tuesday, April 21, 2020 - 08:15 am: Edit

CT6

Combat is well underway.

In Kzinti space, the Coalition retook planet 1001, pushed some ships off map from 1101, killed BATS 1805, and are still fighting i 1701, but probably will hold the hex and push some Kzinti off map.

In Hydran space, the Coalition killed BATS 0318, retook planet 0718, killed a couple province raiding HNs, were chased away from planets 0519 and 0416 by reserves, and are now fighting in 0617.

The first round of combat saw a 120 point Coalition battle line vs a 285 point Hydran battle line over Hydrax. BIR rolled up 1, the Klingons rolled a 2 (with a -2 EW shift) and the Hydrans rolled a 6, doing 121 damage. Yeesh. On the upside, the Coalition did score enough damage to shoot off 4PDUs and kill some fighters.

Battle continues.

By Paul Howard (Raven) on Tuesday, April 21, 2020 - 10:44 am: Edit

I am guessing the Auto kill rule applied over 617?

Depending on whats on the line.... that might force some other ships to die?

(Example, 12 Points of drones might mean there are only '108 points' of ships + the scout....).

By Paul Howard (Raven) on Tuesday, April 21, 2020 - 10:46 am: Edit

...and I was about to say, just be glad it wasn't a fully defended capital hex....

..... as 285 for the Hydrans seems pretty low

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Tuesday, April 21, 2020 - 11:03 am: Edit

Paul wrote:
>>I am guessing the Auto kill rule applied over 617?>>

I mean, yeah, the autokill rule certainly was in effect, but irrelevant, as 121 damage makes ships vanish by default. His R1 line was something like C8+ADM, STT, battlegroup, 18IFF, a few other ships, 12 points of drone bombardment.

121 damage is going to kill all the fighters, cripple the entire line, and still have, like, 20 damage to resolve by blowing up cripples.

This was a brutal round of combat.

>>as 285 for the Hydrans seems pretty low>>

10PDUs, SB, a full line with an Admiral but no command points (they Hydrans never bought one, and you don't get free ones with Admirals in play). The line is 3 various dreadnaughts, all the CCs, some Rangers, and an LAV. I think I forgot the FRD in the hex, but I don't think it makes a difference.

By Richard Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Tuesday, April 21, 2020 - 11:23 am: Edit

I generally don't use IFFs over capitals that have compot like that, for exactly this sort of thing; 3CC would take 27 damage over 18IFF which saves you from having to kill two cruisers more or less.

By Jason Langdon (Jaspar) on Tuesday, April 21, 2020 - 07:16 pm: Edit

Then I lose 2xCC or more in Pursuit. Which is probably worse than losing F5 and D5.

By Richard Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Tuesday, April 21, 2020 - 07:32 pm: Edit

Only if your pursued line doesn't have valuable ships in it, which if you have to cripple an entire line over Hydrax, presumably it will.

Anywho, my apologies if I've given offense.

By Jason Langdon (Jaspar) on Tuesday, April 21, 2020 - 08:11 pm: Edit

None taken.

By Paul Howard (Raven) on Wednesday, April 22, 2020 - 02:50 am: Edit

Lyrans can generally afford to lose CC's I think - but the real benefit is that 3 x CC's can die for 42 if the roll goes really horrible (and it pretty much was close to that) - and it avoids killing good scouts and DN's.

It's always different though and dependent on what rules you play (Battle Groups make a big difference - do you want to kill 3 x CW and 3 x DW over say over 4 CC's?) will make a difference.

Either way, it's expensive

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Wednesday, April 22, 2020 - 07:59 am: Edit

CT6

Combat is over!

So it is apparent that the Coalition are in no rush at all to take the Hydran capital. They fought a round over Hydrax, stripping 4 more PDUs off, then spent a round killing PDUs over the previously untouched major planets, and then left the system while 50+ points of dead Hydran PDU fighters vanished. In pursuit, both VBIR and the Hydrans rolled 1's, so the pursuit line of PAL, 2LGE, BT, LB, TGS couldn't even direct a single crippled F5 (I did the math, and with a second LB instead of the TGS, I was generally going to do the same or less damage due to increased EW shift). Which, after the 6 over the capital seemed, ya know, fair.

Overall, the Coalition left the capital with 20 cripples and having lost 4 ships over Hydrax. The Hydrans have 6PDU and the SB left over Hydrax, 2PDU still on Hyreark, and 1PDU left on Anthraxan. No Hydran planets int he capital have been devastated yet.

Overall, in Hydran space, the raid on the Capital, some province raiders were killed, planet 0718 was captured, and BATS 0318 was destroyed.

In Kzinti space, the Coalition recaptured planet 1001, killed BATS 1805, and killed a few FFs. At press time, there are 65+ ships in hex 1805; it remains to be seen if they stay there.

Ships Killed:
-ZIN: 5FF
-HYD: 2HN

-LYR: CW, 2FF
-KLI: D5, 4F5, E4

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Sunday, April 26, 2020 - 08:52 am: Edit

CT6

The turn is over!

In Kzinti space, the Coalition control most of Kzinti space, pulled most of their ships back to the SB in 1403, have a significant fleet at BATS 1807 (about 30 ships), and have 4 reserves in the NE corner of Klingon space (30 ships spread over 4 reserves; 1 solid Lyran, 1 solid Klingon, 2 modest Klingon). There are also about 30 ships in the SW corner of Klingon space around 2517.

On the Hydran front, the Coalition control everything East of the Capital, but the Hydrans are still in control of Western Hydran space and everything between the Capital and the Old Colonies. There is a giant fleet in 0815, including a couple reserves (a full, solid Lyran reserve, and a small 4 or 5 ship Klingon one). There are about 35 ships at Lyran SB 0411, including the dozen ship reserve.

Map:
http://www.lightlink.com/pdb6/SCD3CT6end.html

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Sunday, April 26, 2020 - 09:13 am: Edit

AT6

Things of note--Kzinti are upgrading MB>BATS over capital, Hydrans are up to 7PDU on the homeworld.

y171 SP T6

Kzinti Econ:

Command Points: 1

Exploration: (3) 55+16=71 (+3)

Treasury: 37.625 (CT6)

Partial Grid 1704: 3.2

On Map Provinces (24): 6
Off Map Provinces (6): 12
Captured Provinces: 0
On Map Planets: (52): 18
Off Map Planets: (11): 11
Captured Planets: 0

Total EP: 84.625

Partial Grid 1704: 3.2

Construction T5:
-8 MSC
-18 3MEC
-4 FKE
-3 FFK
-5 2FF (DN, BC)
-7.5 3FF

-2.5 FF (1704)

Construction Total: 45.5 (1704: 2.5)

Conversions:
-5 BC>CV (1401, 6FFF)
-15 MB>BATS (1401)

-0.3 EFF>FKE (1704, 0.7 1704)

Conversion Total: 20.3 (1704: 0.7)

Repairs:

Repair Total:

Total Spent: 65.8 (1704: 3.2)

Treasury: 18.825 (1704: 0)

FFF Left: 6

覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧覧

Hydran Econ:

Command Points: 0

Exploration: (5) 51+19=70 (+3)

Treasury: 1.575 (CT6)

On Map Provinces (22): 8
Off Map Provinces (4): 10
Captured Provinces: 1.6
On Map Planets: (35): 27
Off Map Planets: (13): 13
Captured Planets: 0

Total EP: 61.175

Construction T6:
-6 TG (RN, .75 FFF)
-10 2HR (3 FFF)
-5 TR
-2.5 CU (PAL, 0215)
-7.5 3CU
-7.5 3HN
-7 PDU (Hydrax, 7)

Construction Total: 45.5

Conversions:
-2 RN>CV (0617 8.25 FFF)
-3+3 3LN>DE (0617)

Conversion Total: 8

Repairs:
-2.5 (TR, SA off map)
-2 (2HN 0215)

Repair Total: 4.5

Total Spent: 58

Treasury: 3.175

FFF Left: 0

By Paul Howard (Raven) on Sunday, April 26, 2020 - 10:44 am: Edit

...I am not a betting man - so are the Klingons setting up for a Turn 7 attack on the Federation?

Is there enough Klingons to destroy 3 SB's on the first turn of invasion?

By Richard Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Sunday, April 26, 2020 - 10:55 am: Edit

Does there have to be?

By Paul Howard (Raven) on Sunday, April 26, 2020 - 01:47 pm: Edit

Nope - but if I only got 1 or 2 SB's.... , to me delaying might be better

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Sunday, April 26, 2020 - 02:31 pm: Edit

There are plenty of Klingon ships in range of the Fed border. Just a quick scan indicates about 180 ships that can attack targets in Fed space on T7, not counting new builds/IWR Squadron. About 80 of those ships are on border BATS on the Fed border.

It looks very much like they are planning to attack the Feds on T7. I mean, maybe not, but if they were planning on delaying the attack till T10, I suspect that Hydrans would be under a *lot* more water than they are now.

By Richard Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Sunday, April 26, 2020 - 02:41 pm: Edit

Or maybe the Feds are planning to attack the Kzinti in a surprise twist!

By Nick Blank (Nickgb) on Sunday, April 26, 2020 - 04:24 pm: Edit

Never trust the monkeys from Earth!

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Monday, April 27, 2020 - 07:41 am: Edit

AT6

During the raid phase, the Alliance successfully raided 3 Lyran provinces, but a Kzinti BF captain is being reprimanded for failing to kill a lone, crippled Lyran FF that was holding a province down (the Kzinti rolled a 2, and had sent the DNL to raid a Lyran province and fight some BATS fighters). The FF isn't gonna make it, but still.

Moves are done, reserves have been deployed, and combat is underway.

In Kzinti space, there are 5 battles; 3 are mobs of Kzinti beating up province raiders of light planet garrisons (at 1001), and will likely see just some Coalition FFs die (including the slippery crippled FF). A couple full battle lines fighting over planet 1202. About 30 Kzinti based at SB 1704 are attacking Klingon BATS 1507, defended by about 45 Coalition ships (3 reserves showed up), but the defending force isn't particularly impressive (no dreadnaught, no admiral, not many fighters), so outcome is unclear.

In Hydran space, there are 3 battle hexes. The reliable "fleet from SB 0215 pins the Lyrans at SB 0411 so FFs can capture provinces" fight (that will likely see no combat again), and then the Hydrans mugging the ships holding planet 0718 and some province raiders over in the east edge of Hydran space. The Hydrans are vastly overkilling both of those hexes, so the Coalition reserves in the area didn't move.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Monday, April 27, 2020 - 09:23 pm: Edit

AT6

Combat is over!

Nothing real exciting happened. In Hydran space, the Hydrans retook planet 0718 (killing an E4), liberated some space (killing another E4), and captured the south of Lyran space again.

In Kzinti space, the Kzinti liberated planet 1001, killed a few province raiders, made a feint attack on planet 1202 allowing them to fighting retreat over a Lyran FF which was also killed, and attacked Klingon BATS 1507. The BATS was defended by a reacting fleet and a few reserves, and potentially could have been an actual fight, but the Kzinti rolled bad in the face of a -1 EW shift in the approach, did not enough damage to advance, so called it a day. The BATS isn't going anywhere.

Ships Killed:
-ZIN: 2FF
-HYD:

-LYR: CW, DW, 3FF
-KLI: 3E4