AT6

The turn is over!

In Kzinti space, the Kzinti have about 65 ships in 1401 (including a solid reserve), about 40 ships in 1704, and a few small groups of ships spread around the map.

In Hydran space, the Hydrans have about 55 ships in the capital, about 40 ships at SB 0125 (including a modest reserve), a dozen ships (mostly FFs) split between planet 0519 and a hex near the off map zone; and a moderate reserve (10 unimpressive ships) off map. And 6 ships holding Lyran space!

The Feds are set up not at all surprisingly. Most of the 4th Fleet is on SB 2204 (including a full reserve), most of the 3rd Fleet is on SB 2211 (including a full reserve). There are a few CLs and FFs at some border BATS (the ones where they are unlikely to get run over and killed by retreating Klingon fleets...).

On to further invasion!

Map:
http://www.lightlink.com/pdb6/SCD3AT6end.html

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Tuesday, April 28, 2020 - 08:31 am: Edit

As that is the end of T6, just a quick comparison to the end of the first scenario victory conditions. Which, to be clear, isn't actually an indication of anything in particular, but it is interesting to see what the scenario thinks the Coalition should be at at this point.

At press time, for a Tactical Victory, the Coalition should have killed 20 BATS and the total Alliance economy should be 90 EPs or less.

The Coalition have killed 29 Alliance BATS (counting SB as 3), so they got that.

At the end of AT6, the Kzinti econ is 52.2; the Hydran econ is 66. The total Alliance Economy is 118.2.

So if the scenario ended here, the Alliance are currently winning. That being said, if the scenario were ending now, there would be no reason at all that the Coalition couldn't have thrown themselves on the Hydran pike and taken the Capital, so this is all to be taken with a grain of salt.

In reality, the Alliance is doing ok, but the Hydrans are certainly going to lose their Capital in the near future, the Coalition have a SB in the middle of Kzinti territory, and about 200 Klingons can roll across the Fed border this turn, so seems like they are still doing just fine.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Thursday, April 30, 2020 - 08:01 am: Edit

CT7

Yaa! Chaos and bedlam starts now!

LYRAN ECO

Old Survey: 67
Survey roll: 12
Survey total: 79

Transfers: 0
Salvage: 6.625
Treasury: 14.15

Sub-total: 20.775

Capital: 1 - 5
Major: 8 - 40
Major(dev/cap): 0
Minor: 10 - 30
Minor(dev/cap): 0
Province: 10 - 20
Province(off): 7 - 14
Province(dis/cap): 6 - 6
NZ hexes: 7 - 1.4

Sub-total: 116.4

Total EPs: 137.175

Production:
BC - BC - 10
CA - CA - 8
CW - CVL - 7+12
CW - CWE - 6
2xCW - 2xCW - 10
DW - DWE - 5
2xDW - 2xDW - 8
3xFF - 3xFF - 7.5 (0404 0411 1403)
FRD - 10

Sub-total: 83.5

Overbuilds:

Sub-total: 0

Conversions:
(0408) - CL -> BC - 6

Sub-total: 6

Repairs:
(0815) - 5cw, dw, 2ff - 11
(1403) - f5 - 1

Sub-total: 12

Total spent: 101.5

Treasury: 35.675

Start Command Points: 4
Used Command Points: 4
Bought Command Points: 5
Current Command Points: 5

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KLINGON ECO

Old Survey: 43
Survey roll: 8
Survey total: 51

B-10 (1)
Old total: 17
B-10 roll: 5
B-10 total: 22

B-10 (2)
Old total: 0
B-10 roll: 1
B-10 total: 1

DBB: -1.2 (12)
Transfers: 0
Salvage: 7.6
Treasury: 11.1

Sub-total: 17.5

Capital: 1 - 5
Major: 8 - 40
Major(dev/cap): 1 - 2
Minor: 15 - 45
Minor(dev/cap): 4 - 4
Province: 26 - 52
Province(off): 2 - 4
Province(dis/cap): 8 - 8
NZ hexes: 27 - 5.4

Sub-total: 165.4

Total: 182.9

Builds:
D7C - D7C - 9
D7 - D7V - 10+12
D6 - D6M - 10
D5 - D5S - 8
D5 - AD5 - 6
8xD5 - 8xD5 - 40
2xF5L - 2xE4 - 5
2xF5 - 2xF5E - 8
2xF5 - 2xF5S - 8
3xE4 - 3xE4 - 7.5 (2318, 1716, 1509)
B-10 - B-10 - 5
B-10 - B-10 - 5

Sub-total: 133.5

Overbuilds:

Sub-total: 0

Activations:
2xD6 - 2

Sub-total: 2

Conversions:
(1411) D6 -> D6M - 5
(1411) D6 -> D6D - 3
(2318) D6 -> D6D - 3

Sub-total: 11

Repairs:
(0815) - c8, 3d5, d6d, 2f5, 2f5s - 12
(1013) - 2stt, 2dd - 8
(1214) - d7 - 2

Sub-total: 22

Total spent: 168.5

Treasury: 14.4

Start Command Points: 6
Used Command Points: 5
Bought Command Points: 2
IWR Command Points: 1
Current Command Points: 4

Klingons started a second B10; it rolled a 1, which is something, 'cause the 1st B10 is already over half done.

By Richard Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Thursday, April 30, 2020 - 10:43 am: Edit

Don't think the Klingons can sub more than one scout a turn (plenty of conversion capacity though).

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Thursday, April 30, 2020 - 11:31 am: Edit

Oh, heh, I didn't even notice those F5Ss. Yeah, you can only ever sub 1 scout per turn. But the conversion capacity is there and the cost is the same, so no difference.

By Jason Langdon (Jaspar) on Thursday, April 30, 2020 - 07:41 pm: Edit

The F5S is now being converted.

The Lyrans have changed a lot of their production. Ditching the CVL and instead getting an STJ and going for a few VP+ pods.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Friday, May 01, 2020 - 08:57 am: Edit

CT7

Lyran Updated Econ:
LYRAN ECO

Old Survey: 67
Survey roll: 12
Survey total: 79

Transfers: 0
Salvage: 6.625
Treasury: 14.15

Sub-total: 20.775

Capital: 1 - 5
Major: 8 - 40
Major(dev/cap): 0
Minor: 10 - 30
Minor(dev/cap): 0
Province: 10 - 20
Province(off): 7 - 14
Province(dis/cap): 4 - 4
NZ hexes: 7 - 1.4

Sub-total: 114.4

Total EPs: 135.175

Production:
BC - BC - 10
CA - TG - 8
2xCW - 2xCWE - 12
CW - STJ - 7
2xDW - 2xDWE - 10
DW - DW - 4
3xFF - 3xFF - 7.5 (0404 0411 1403)
VP+ - VP+ - 2+12
FRD - 10

Sub-total: 82.5

Overbuilds:

Sub-total: 0

Conversions:
(0408) - CL -> BC - 6

Sub-total: 6

Repairs:
(0815) - 5cw, dw, 2ff - 11
(1403) - f5 - 1

Sub-total: 12

Total spent: 100.5

Treasury: 34.675

Start Command Points: 4
Used Command Points: 4
Bought Command Points: 5
Current Command Points: 5

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Friday, May 01, 2020 - 09:00 am: Edit

CT7

Raids have happened and moves have started!

In the Raid phase, some Romulan Privateers successfully raided an Eastern Fed province.

In Hydran space, the Coalition rounded up Hydran province raiders, recaptured a bunch of Hydran space, and started piling ships in the Capital.

In Kzinti space, the Coalition have re-asserted control over a lot of Kzinti space, are mugging some province/planet garrisons, and have sent ships to pin the Marquis Fleet at SB 1704 (clearly seen as a provocation by the Federation...).

No attacks on the Feds yet.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Sunday, May 03, 2020 - 08:28 am: Edit

CT7

And now there is bedlam!

In Hydran space, not a ton has changed; a lot of ships are in 0617; the Lyrans deeked the Hydrans at SB 0215 (well, we saw it coming, but there wasn't much to be done about it) by moving adjacent to the SB, and then moving away to planet 0416, leaving the ships at 0215 unutilized this turn., and there are significant fleets recapturing planet 0718 and taking planet 0519 (reserves are unlikely to change these things).

In Kzinti space, the Coalition are swarming the Marquis Zone; there are currently about 70 Coalition SEQ on SB 1704, where the Kzinti have about 40 SEQ; there are two reserves that can reach the SB, so likely the Coalition just want the reserves to go there rather than somewhere else.

On the Fed front, well, no longer a mystery as to the plans of the Coalition, as a tidal wave of Klingons have crossed the border. At press time, there are 6BATS under attack, planet 1910 is under attack, planet 2106 is under attack, SB 2204 has 23 Klingon SEQ (and 26 Fed SEQ), so probably not going to die (yet); SB 2211 is under attack by 35 SEQ of Klingons (protected by 41 SEQ of Feds), so also possibly safe right now; SB 2915 is under attack by 30 SEQ of Klingons (defended by a dozen ships), which is probably doomed.

Still some ships to move. Exciting!

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Monday, May 04, 2020 - 08:24 am: Edit

CT7

Moves are done, reserves have deployed, combat is starting!

In Hydran space, 5 combat hexes. The capital is under assault by a ton of ships; a reserve showed up to help (mostly 'cause it wasn't really gonna help anywhere else); planets 0416 and 0718 will be recaptured with no actual combat; planet 0519 will certainly be captured, but there is a modest fleet there to put up a fight. There is a mob of province raiding FFs and a modest reserve fighting a similarly sized force in southern Lyran space. The Coalition could certainly push the Hydrans out of the capital this turn if they were intent on it, but it would be pretty bloody; the Homeworld has 7PDU and the SB; there is a planet with 2PDU and another planet with 1PDU.

In Kzinti space, there are 7 fights. About 65 Coalition ships vs about 55 Kzinti ships over 1704 after a reserve showed up (it is unclear if the Coalition will actually fight here); 2 hexes where garrison forces are being mugged; planet 1001 will be recaptured without actual combat; BATS 1803 and 1902 will be destroyed; planet 1802 is likely being rescued by a reserve. The Coalition did not enter the Kzinti Capital.

In Fed space, 10 fights (and also planet 1910). BATS 2004, 2006, 2010, 2012, 2816 will die; planet 2106 will be captured; BATS 2008 *might* be saved by a couple FFs showing up from SB 2211 as they could wiggle out as reserves to go join a CL at that BATS. SB 2204 and 2211 are under attack by similarly sized forces (mostly pinning them), so it is unclear if the Coalition will fight over the SBs; SB 2915 is under attack by a larger force, so likely will die.

The Feds were certainly attacked in force, but it remains to be seen how many SB will die (at least 1). And the Klingons didn't get real deep into Fed space (and they didn't force Orion Neutrality this turn).

On to the carnage!

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Wednesday, May 06, 2020 - 08:25 am: Edit

CT7

Battles are well underway!

In Hydran space, planets 0416 and 0718 are recaptured; planet 0519 has been conquered. Some light combat in Southern Lyran space as province raiders are beat up (seeing a few cripples on both sides and an HN killed in pursuit). The Capital is waiting to be smoshed.

In Kzinti space, planet 1001 has been recaptured, BATS 1902 and 1803 have been destroyed. Planet 1802 has been saved by a reserve. Most of Kzinti space is under Coalition control.

In Fed space, so far 5 BATS are dead, planet 2106 has been captured. Three SB under attack, but probably only 2915 will go down.

Lots of destruction to come!

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Friday, May 08, 2020 - 11:53 am: Edit

CT7

Combat is nearing the end; the Kzinti saved planet 1802 (which will most likely be in a partial grid with SB 1704 again); the Coalition retreated from SB 2204 and 2211, but will be fighting SB 2915 (likely killing it, but it'll probably be bloody); it is unclear what the plan is over SB 1704. The battle in 0617 is yet to happen. So not a lot of fights left, but all the ones left could be big and bloody.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Sunday, May 10, 2020 - 12:15 pm: Edit

CT7

Over SB 2915, the Klingons killed it over 3 actual combat rounds and then a final round vs the 1SID crippled SB after the defending force fled; the Feds had 3CAs mauled out. of existence, killing 3F5s and crippling a bunch of stuff in return.

In the Hydran capital, currently 3 rounds in; the 4 planets not in the Homeworld system are now devastated; Hydrax is down to zero PDUs. At press time in the hex, the Coalition have 25+ cripples, lost a D6M to direct damage (over Anthraxan), and have lost about half their available fighters (they started with about 60). The minor in the Hydrax system still has 2PDUs, so maybe they'll go fight that one before they leave? Or maybe they are gonna fight to the death here? Unclear at press time.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Monday, May 11, 2020 - 08:10 pm: Edit

CT7

Combat is over!

In Hydran space, the Coalition captured or recaptured planets 0416, 0519, and 0718; the stripped all the PDUs off of Hydrax; all planets other than the two in the homeworld system are devastated (there are still 2PDU on the minor in the homeworld system and a SB over Hydrax).

In Kzinti space, the Coalition killed 2BATS (in the Marquis zone), captured most of Kzinti space.

In Fed space, the Coalition killed SB 2915, killed 5 other BATS, captured planet 2106.

Ships Killed:
ZIN: SF, EFF, 2FF
HYD: (HN)
FED: 3CA

LYR: (CW)
KLI: D6M, 3F5, (D6M, F5, E4)

By Paul Howard (Raven) on Tuesday, May 12, 2020 - 01:45 pm: Edit

Is stuff in brackets 'Captured' or Directed?

How deep was the Coalition able to go against the Feds - what economic damage was done?

For once, overbuilding for the Feds like mad makes sense!

They need hulls and they need hulls now!

and Carriers - they need more Carriers!

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Tuesday, May 12, 2020 - 01:54 pm: Edit

>>Is stuff in brackets 'Captured' or Directed?>>

Stuff in parenthesis is stuff that doesn't produce salvage (as it was killed in pursuit or while out of supply). It is just helpful for my own record keeping to list them like that. Most killed ships were the result of being directed one way or the other.

>>How deep was the Coalition able to go against the Feds - what economic damage was done?>>

They killed SB 2915, numerous BATS along the NZ, captured planet 2106 (and 1910), can hold some provinces. It wasn't an overwhelming attack, but wasn't terrible either.

>>For once, overbuilding for the Feds like mad makes sense!>>

Probably not. I don't know that overpaying for FFs now is going to prevent me from not being able to pay for FFs at regular later.

>>They need hulls and they need hulls now!

and Carriers - they need more Carriers!>>

Both of these things are always true.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Monday, May 18, 2020 - 07:27 am: Edit

CT7

The turn is over!

In Hydran space, the Coalition stripped all the PDUs off of Hydrax, and devastated all planets not in the Hydrax system. They also captured or recaptured planets 0416, 0519, and 0718.

In Kznti space, the Coalition captured most of Kzinti space, hold all planets other than 1802, and killed 2BATS in the Marquis zone.

In Fed space, the Klingons crossed the boarder, killed SB 2915, 5 other BATS, and captured planet 2106. They mostly pulled back into their borders to protect their bases, however.

There are 3 small reserves around Hydran space, 2 modest reserves near the Kzinti border, 2 modest reserves on the SE edge of Klingon space.

At press time, there are about 50 Coalition cripples on the map.

Map:
http://www.lightlink.com/pdb6/SCD3CT7end.html

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Monday, May 18, 2020 - 08:10 am: Edit

AT7

FA, y171

Kzinti Econ:

Command Points: 1

Exploration: (3) 71+14=85 (+4)

Treasury: 22.45 (CT7)

On Map Provinces (24): 6
Off Map Provinces (6): 14
Captured Provinces: 0
On Map Planets: (52): 18
Off Map Planets: (11): 11
Captured Planets: 0

Total EP: 71.45

Construction T7:
-8 MSC
-12 2MEC
-3 FFK (1704)
-5 2FF (CV, BC)
-5 2FF (CL)
-12.5 5FF (1 off map)

Construction Total: 45.5

Conversions:
-5 BC>CV (1401, 6FFF)

Conversion Total: 5

Repairs:

Repair Total:

Total Spent: 50.5

Treasury: 20.95

FFF Left:

DBB:

Salvage:

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Hydran Econ:

Command Points: 0, +1=1

Exploration: (5) 70+19=89 (+4)

Treasury: 3.175 (CT7)

On Map Provinces (22): 5
Off Map Provinces (4): 12
Captured Provinces: 1
On Map Planets: (35): 14
Off Map Planets: (13): 13
Captured Planets: 0

Total EP: 48.175

Construction T7
-10 2TR (DG)
-10 4CU (UH, DE, 2AH)
-5 2CU (HR)
-7.5 3CU
-7.5 3HN (1 0215)
-5 Command Point

Construction Total: 45

Conversions:

Conversion Total:

Repairs:
-2 (2HN off map)
-1 (SA 0617)

Repair Total: 3

Total Spent: 48

Treasury: 0.175

FFF Left: 0

Salvage:

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Federation Econ:

Command Points: 0

Exploration: (8): 0+33=33 (+1)

Treasury: 7.2 (CT7)

On Map Provinces (92): (87)=65.25
Off Map Provinces (6): (8)=6
Captured Provinces: 0
On Map Planets: (123): (120)=90
Captured Planets: 0

Total EP: 168.45

Construction T7:
-12 DN
-6 TG
-15 3NCL
-9 3FF (2908, 2204, 2211)
-0+8 2CLV (8FFF)
-5 SP
-0 SWAC
-28 4PDU (Earth, 12)

Construction Total: 83

Activations T7:
-1 CA
-1 DD
-3 3CL
-3 3FF

Activation Total: 8

Conversions:
-4 DD>SC (2908)
-3 3DD>DE (2908)
-3+6 2DD>DE, FF>FCR (2211)
-3 3DD>DE (2204)

Conversion Total: 19

Repairs:

Repair Total:

Total Spent: 110

Treasury: 58.45

By Paul Howard (Raven) on Monday, May 18, 2020 - 12:36 pm: Edit

Wow - PDU's for earth and no true carrier or escort carriers!

CLV's are nice and cheap... but no high compot!

By Richard Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Monday, May 18, 2020 - 01:06 pm: Edit

You can't build a CVA on turn seven and imo none of the other carriers (other than CLVs) are good to build on turn seven.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Monday, May 18, 2020 - 01:13 pm: Edit

Paul wrote:
>>CLV's are nice and cheap... but no high compot!>>

The Feds only have 8FFF on T7, no CVA on the schedule, and want to put 2 free CLVs on the map.

The CLVs aren't great, no. But they are also free hulls on the map. So I could put 2 free mediocre carriers on the map (by paying the balance of fighters, which is what I did), which laso gets 2 extra hulls built on the map, or, like, convert some CVS, but not get 2 extra hulls on the map.

The 2CLVs seems like the good play here.

By Paul Howard (Raven) on Monday, May 18, 2020 - 03:16 pm: Edit

I would build it all!!!

The Kzinti can wait for their Ep's

FV's are ideal for hunting Province raiders and so as well as the 2 CLV's you can get 3 FV's too.

Not cheap - but better than nothing.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Monday, May 18, 2020 - 03:26 pm: Edit

Yeah, I'm not a fan of Fed FVs. I'm not gonna use FFF for them, and not gonna spend EPs on the fighters for them (as if I'm gonna pay to make 2FV? I'll make a CVS or something instead).

I think the Feds are ok here. I mean, they can't *do* much this turn (as the Klingons are well defended), but at the very least, the Klingons can't get real deep into Fed space next turn.

By Richard Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Monday, May 18, 2020 - 07:00 pm: Edit

On turn seven, it is my belief that in a normal game the Feds have better things to do with their EPs than construct FVs.

YMMV.

By Thomas Mathews (Turtle) on Monday, May 18, 2020 - 07:56 pm: Edit

Build the FV if you can. The extra half SE of fighters will come in handy at some point. It is a great place to hide the FCR as well.