Thank you sir!
I didn't see that last one in the SIT listings.

By Lawrence Bergen (Lar) on Tuesday, May 26, 2020 - 07:55 pm: Edit

BTW spelling on Gorn 'Vengeance' Fleet has been corrected...thank you

By Ted Fay (Catwhoeatsphoto) on Wednesday, May 27, 2020 - 09:48 am: Edit

YAY!!!!

By William Jockusch (Verybadcat) on Sunday, June 14, 2020 - 11:16 am: Edit

Paul and I have reached turn 22 in our team. The available PF counters appear to be for squadrons of 6 only? For example, right now he has a PFT with only 2PF remaining, and there is no obvious way to mark it. We are using a 6 squadron with a blue "2" on it.

I imagine the counter limit may be a limitation. Counters for 1 and 3 would make it reasonably convenient, if they were present for at least the six PF-using races in the main game.

By Thomas Mathews (Turtle) on Sunday, June 14, 2020 - 05:50 pm: Edit

There is a maximum counter limit. We have estimated that the maximum number of counters that Cyberboard will support is 65,536.

You can always use the text box on the counter or marker to record the current count if less than 6.

By Lawrence Bergen (Lar) on Monday, June 15, 2020 - 03:19 pm: Edit

I can make markers for this but not really counters. The Text Box is probably your best bet.

We are incorporating Minor Empires with this update and are thinking ahead to Civil Wars.
We have also worked in the extra things needed to play Early Beginnings.

What is EB? A Civ-style, player designed, scenario we have had fun with at Origins and StratCon for years. (Reach out to Tim Losberg for details as he is back on the BBS).

By Lawrence Bergen (Lar) on Monday, June 15, 2020 - 03:21 pm: Edit

CB REBUILD UPDATE

I am 76% complete rebuilding all of the 65,000+ counters, plus updated maps and charts, with a target of 30 June for Scenario Building.

If you built scenarios in the past and want to do it again reach out to me. They will need to be done quickly (within 2 weeks?) and accurately to be included with the posting of the new box by ADB.

The one Scenario that we would need created first is the Obvious Y168 start General War.

Everything else is nice to have but still important.
I would like to see:
- 4PW
- Cloudburst (just fun)
- The new Minor Empire scenarios
- ISC War
- Early Beginnings

Alternately players willing to (after these are done) do this could create smaller published scenarios or scenarios from Captains log.

By William Jockusch (Verybadcat) on Sunday, June 28, 2020 - 10:46 pm: Edit

Got it, counter limitations are a problem, and it's tricky because there are a lot of different scenarios. That said, there are some things you could save on IMO.

I went through a few trays, especially Hydrans, and noticed some things you could cut down on IMO:

RN, DG -- Seems there are over 100 of each. Surely 50 would be more than plenty.

LC -- Seems there are 50+. Surely 20 would be more than plenty.

LM, LB -- Seems there are 100+. Surely 50 would be more than plenty; even 20 would likely be fine.

CR -- People avoid building this because it sucks. I think 20 would be more than plenty.

FCR (all races) -- these things are wonderful, but you can only make use of so many non-operable fighters. I think you could cut them back to 25 for everyone but Feds and Klingons with no problem.

On the other hand, my current game is close to running out of Fed FF. We will manage by recycling the dead, which is not that hard.

By Thomas Mathews (Turtle) on Monday, June 29, 2020 - 10:07 am: Edit

William, RN and DG got cut by almost 40% each. Other Hydrans got cut in similar fashion. Some ships in other empires got cut as well. Some empires saw some ships increase in counts for popular scenarios. Other ships got increased because there wasn't enough to go around for scenario set ups, let alone further builds during the scenario.

When it is finished the gamebox is going to have roughly 62700 counters leaving us 2300 for new ships as they are introduced.

NOTE: The numbers in the above statements are approximations and not accurate counts.

By Lawrence Bergen (Lar) on Monday, June 29, 2020 - 09:49 pm: Edit

Its not the cutting down that is difficult it is what I have to add back in

By Lawrence Bergen (Lar) on Saturday, July 04, 2020 - 11:37 am: Edit

Current status:
As I begin the day today the box a smidge under 93% complete with a plan to cut the remaining to do by 50%. Mostly for new counters it is tug missions and HWX missions that remain.

I will eventually have some final checks of the marker trays to make sure new features have been populated. Oh and some final looks at the charts.

Scenario builds:
Scenario building can likely commence this coming week for those who are willing to do it.

The strategy here last time was to have someone build the 168 GW start scenario as it also serves as a base line for many other scenario builds (Alternate starts, Cloudburst, etc).

For the early timeline it would be cool to have someone do the 4PW set-up, and the new Minor Empire set-ups.

If someone wants to build the later timeline stuff that would be great. Looking for the ISC War set up at a minimum.

For those who have the time over the next 3-4 weeks and are willing to do scenario builds I can email the new box. Your reward for completing a scenario build for the F&E community is a fleet/squadron named in your honor in the final box.

Posting the box:
Once I have the GW scenario (the most played) it can all go to ADB for posting on the board (it only gets posted here on this BBS per the agreement with ADB). If I have others by then they will be included otherwise a secondary scenario file will be posted (like last time).

Despite still using the same Cyberboard game engine, the new box will not allow your current games to be played (way too much has been updated/added). You will have to begin a new game.

By Thomas Mathews (Turtle) on Saturday, July 04, 2020 - 12:01 pm: Edit

I will do the setup for (624.0) Gathering Winds.

Barring me going back to work next week I will do (625.0) Driving Winds.

By Soeren Klein (Ogdrklein) on Sunday, July 05, 2020 - 03:49 am: Edit

Hi, Lar!

I would like to voluntere for scenario building.
Maybe the base setup for Y168 or the Hurricane scenario.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
Soeren Klein

By Lawrence Bergen (Lar) on Sunday, July 05, 2020 - 10:33 am: Edit

Great I will let everyone know when the file is ready so we can coordinate.

By Ted Fay (Catwhoeatsphoto) on Monday, July 06, 2020 - 11:06 am: Edit

I can do the setup for the general war start (168), if that task is not assigned to Soeren.

I have a suggestion in this regard.

With the current "WIND" setup, I ended up doing my own custom startup scenario because I almost always play with all of the expansions, and I got sick and tired of re-sorting counters to account for the fact that the original GW setup scenario had lots of notes and different counters for the various different expansions.

It would be helpful to have two GW scenarios: One in which that is done (i.e., ships are indicated as being associated with a given product, both the replacement and original are present, etc.) and another scenario which is "clean" from the "full game" perspective. That way folks who want to play the full rules GW can go straight to the "clean" scenario and not bother with "fixing it".

Thoughts?

By Soeren Klein (Ogdrklein) on Monday, July 06, 2020 - 11:50 am: Edit

I have no problem with Ted doing the basic setup for the general war start.

I'll do the Hurricane instead.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
Soeren Klein

By Ted Fay (Catwhoeatsphoto) on Monday, July 06, 2020 - 12:40 pm: Edit

OK, then I volunteer for both the "markup" and "clean" versions of the GW. Pretty straightforward: Build the "markup" version, save, and then save again as a new file and then clean it up.

By Mike Curtis (Nashvillen) on Monday, July 06, 2020 - 12:53 pm: Edit

Good idea Ted. Also, have someone check your work. Even then some stuff may leak through. Voice of experience here...

By Ted Fay (Catwhoeatsphoto) on Monday, July 06, 2020 - 12:59 pm: Edit

@Mike Curtis: ABSOLUTELY!!!!! I *HAVE* to be checked!!!

Preferably twice, by different people. It's a big job with a lot of detail, and to make things worse it's possible I have outdated material.

I may re-buy the rules supplements just to make sure I have the latest and greatest.

By Lawrence Bergen (Lar) on Monday, July 06, 2020 - 07:31 pm: Edit

Thank you for volunteering.

Yes there will have to be checks to the scenarios, otherwise we run the risk of six years someone telling us a Klingon Fleet is missing.

By Mike Curtis (Nashvillen) on Monday, July 06, 2020 - 11:02 pm: Edit

Yup, I own that one!

By Lawrence Bergen (Lar) on Tuesday, July 07, 2020 - 01:19 am: Edit

LOL

By Ted Fay (Catwhoeatsphoto) on Tuesday, July 07, 2020 - 10:39 am: Edit

DOH!

By Soeren Klein (Ogdrklein) on Sunday, July 19, 2020 - 05:47 am: Edit

Hi, Lar!

How is the work on the next gamebox going?

Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
Soeren Klein

By Thomas Mathews (Turtle) on Sunday, July 19, 2020 - 07:58 pm: Edit

Work is about 95% completed on the updated gamebox.