By Stefano Predieri (Preda) on Tuesday, September 01, 2020 - 12:57 pm: Edit |
Ops. I remembered The KRS in West Fleet. But OOB does say K5S. Better to control our OOB, might be old...
As soon as we can reach it in our Covid Closed club...
By Stewart Frazier (Frazikar3) on Tuesday, September 01, 2020 - 06:39 pm: Edit |
Note that the Lyran CV is a heavy carrier (515.211) and will need another DWE ...
By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Tuesday, September 01, 2020 - 07:24 pm: Edit |
Or an ad-hoc FF as the outer escort so that the expensive good ones don't get blown up. Or another escort that is already on the board somewhere...
By Jason Langdon (Jaspar) on Wednesday, September 02, 2020 - 10:03 am: Edit |
I tend to use ad-hoc FF about 90% of the time. Really the only time I'd use all proper escorts is if I knew that there would be bigger targets to kill, like Maulers and Cruisers.
By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Wednesday, September 02, 2020 - 04:47 pm: Edit |
CT10
We got econ tweaked up, and moves are underway!
The Romulans come in strong, so far hitting 4xBATS and both NZ planets. They haven't gone real near SB 3611 (other than BATS 3810, which the Feds sent a brave CL to help defend), but still have plenty of ships unmoved.
On the Hydran front, the Coalition are rounding up province raiders in southern Lyran space, and have sent a lot of ships (that can't otherwise reach the capital) to pin the reserve at SB 0215.
In Kzinti space, now that we have done a recent ship census, the Kzinti have about 185 SEQ that can react out of 1401, and the Coalition have about 155 SEQ that can get near 1401, so it seems likely they will avoid the Capital and it's surrounding hexes. They have attacked planet 1001, and sent 4 ships to pin 4 other ships at 1202, but at this point, if they send more ships to 1202, it is likely that they will get piled on by the ships in 1401.
Klingons haven't moved yet.
Action is on!
By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Sunday, September 06, 2020 - 10:51 am: Edit |
CT10
The Coalition are making moves! The Klingons and Romulans have both moved MBs that are being set up to 2914 (right south of the Orion enclave, and conveniently 7 hexes away from both SB 2211 and 3611, and there currently aren't that many ships in range). Klingons are currently working on pinning the Fed fleet at planet 2106, and have attacked planet 2610, and are possibly reclaiming planet 1910 as well.
In Kzinti space, the Coalition have attacked a pile of province garrison ships in 1803.
In Hydran space, the Coalition have sent a large fleet to 0617 and enough ships to SB 0215 to pin everything there.
Plenty of ships still to go.
By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Sunday, September 06, 2020 - 03:43 pm: Edit |
Jason! I keep getting "bounced email" messages from the most recent move response. You seeing anything from me?
By Jason Langdon (Jaspar) on Tuesday, September 08, 2020 - 07:18 am: Edit |
Im getting emails from you. Not sure what is going on.
By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Tuesday, September 08, 2020 - 09:15 am: Edit |
Huh. Weird. I sent, like, the same response 5 times, and 4 of them got returned bounced, but the last one didn't. Did you see that whole barrage?
(Just checking and seeing what made it through :-)
By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Wednesday, September 16, 2020 - 04:12 pm: Edit |
CT10
Moves seem to be mostly finishing up. On the Fed/Romulan front, the Romulans are attacking a lot of undefended or minimally defended targets, so far hitting 7xBATS, 2 neutral zone planets, Fed planet 3711 (moving there when there were still plenty of ships to attack the 6th Fleet SB, so no reacting off to defend it), and they are capturing numerous other provinces. Still some ships left to move, but at this point, it is unlikely they will move anywhere near the 6th Fleet SB. The Feds have a solid reserve at SB 3311 which can save something, but the other Fed reserve on the front is both small and on SB 3604 and can't reach anything.
Still some ships left to move, but not many.
By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Wednesday, September 16, 2020 - 08:42 pm: Edit |
CT10
Moves are done and reserves have been deployed!
In Hydran space, 5 battle hexes. The Coalition are going to retake planets 0416 and 0718 with no resistance; some province raiding FFs in Lyran space are set upon a overwhelming force; SB 0215 sees about 60 SEQ of Coalition vs about 60 SEQ of Hydrans (pinning a reserve); Capital 0617 sees a lot of Coalition vs not as many Hydrans (about 65 Hydran ships, not counting fighters, but many of those are FFs, including a reserve that showed up from off map).
In Kzinti space, 5 battle hexes. Planets 1001, 1105, and 1802 will be taken with no, or limited, resistance. Planet 1202 is under attack but will be saved by Kzinti reserves. Some province garrison ships (mixed Fed/Kzinti) will be beat up in 1803.
On the Fed/Klingon front, 3 battle hexes. Planet 1910 will be "liberated" by the Klingons. Planet 2106 has a potential big fight, seeing about 90 Klingons facing 59 Feds, including a reserve that showed up (the Feds have more fighters, however). Planet 2610 will be saved by a reserve that showed up.
On the Fed/Romulan front, 10 battle hexes. The Romulans will certainly kill 6xBATS, capture 2xNZ planets, capture Fed planet 3711. The Feds sent a reserve to BATS 3212, possibly saving it (there are now 16 Feds and a BATS vs a dozen Romulans). The Coalition are setting up 2xMB in 2914, and the ships at BATS 3212 are the only ships in range of that operation currently (where there are about a dozen Coalition ships defending the MB setup).
By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Tuesday, September 22, 2020 - 08:32 am: Edit |
CT10
Combat is well under way!
In Kzinti space, the Coalition have captured a few minimally defenses planets, but were chased off from 1202 by reserves.
On the Fed/Romulan front, the Romulans have destroyed numerous BATS, captured planet 3711. but were chased off from BATS 3212 by a reserve.
On the Fed/Klingon front, the Klingons have captured planet 1910.
In Hydran space, the Coalition have captured a few undefended planets and are fighting over the Capital, having just destroyed the Hydran SB by SIDsing it for 8 rounds, and then mauling the crippled SB on R10 (having missed the damage needed to maul it on R9), so at this point, it is the Klingon fleet facing the Hydran fleet over the defenseless homeworld. Remains to be seen how long the Hydrans will stick around to try and defend it, or how long the Coalition will fight to try and force the Hydrans out. As of press time, the Klingons have lost 10 ships, taken numerous cripples, and have lost over half their available fighters. The Hydrans lost the SB, an HR, and are down about half their available fighters.
By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Wednesday, September 23, 2020 - 10:35 am: Edit |
CT10
After destroying the Hydran Homeworld starbase, the Coalition fled (they are out of fighters, have about 2 dozen cripples, no uncrippled D5s or F5s, lost 10 ships), leaving the Hydran shipyard intact and in Hydran control for another turn (the Hydran capital is completely devastated but for the Homeworld, has no PDUs, has no starbase). There was an anemic pursuit, where the Hydrans traded a CU for a crippled F5S (bad EW, bad dice).
The Coalition now seem to be moving to attack SB 0215 in earnest. We'll see what happens!
By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Thursday, September 24, 2020 - 08:22 am: Edit |
CT10
Now that the Hydrans have counted Lyran ships over SB 0215 closely, it turns out that the Lyrans have almost 100 SEQ over the SB (a little more than the Hydrans, but over law the Hydrans at the SB are FFs) and a lot of tough ships. Seems likely the Lyrans can possibly kill SB 0215 this turn if they push. Hydrans are concerned.
By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Sunday, September 27, 2020 - 12:20 pm: Edit |
CT10
Lyrans are now fighting over SB 0215, having spent a command point (when the Hydrans don't have one). Hydrans ignored the approach, and have set up for a minor EW advantage by putting an SAS on the line (trading 11 compot from a second DG on the line for a -1EW shift, which may or may not be a good idea at this point). The first 2 rounds have been unkind to the Lyrans, dice wise (a 1, 2 vs the Hydrans 6, 5), but they have been capable of mauling the DGs on the line, and aren't taking a huge amount of damage in return (Hydrans are killing ships also and BIR is low-ish), so they can probably keep this up for a while.
By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Monday, September 28, 2020 - 06:24 pm: Edit |
CT10
Over 0215, the Coalition is in 6 rounds; the dice haven't been great for the Coalition, but BIRs have been low in general, and not a ton of damage has been done to either side (although the Hydrans are now down all 5xDGs they had in the hex, er, the map). On one round, the dice were so bad that all the Lyrans could do was direct the SAS on the line.
Plenty of ships, plenty of fighters, and the SB hasn't taken any damage yet. We'll see what happens!
By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Sunday, October 11, 2020 - 09:37 am: Edit |
CT10
The fight over 0215 is now 8 rounds in; the Hydrans have run out of DGs, and their line is now made completely of TRs, FFs, and a 4 ships LNHV group (and a SB). The Hydrans are also out of extra scouts, so they have lost their EW advantage. The Lyrans have now started hitting SIDS; the Lyrans are down to a single squadron of fighters, have lost 8 ships, and have a dozen+ cripples.
There are still a lot of Lyran war hulls to take damage on, so it remains to be seen how long they'll stick around for.
By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Monday, October 12, 2020 - 10:01 am: Edit |
CT10
After 10 rounds and a lackluster pursuit, SB 0215 remains standing. The Lyrans directed all the HYD DGs that existed, did a couple SID hits on the SB, but then after dice got kind of brutal in the last couple rounds, they killed the last Hydran PGS in the hex and fled with about 2 dozen cripples, losing a crippled STT in pursuit. The Hydrans lost 8 ships and an SAS, and took 5 crippled CUs. The Lyrans lost 9 ships (including the crippled STT in pursuit).
One big fight left in Fed space over planet 2106; the Coalition have way more ships (about 90 Klingons vs about 60 Feds), but the Feds have more fighters and can probably fight for a while.
By Paul Howard (Raven) on Monday, October 12, 2020 - 11:28 am: Edit |
What did the Hydrans have left for the pursuit battle?
And how many Hydrans died?
By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Monday, October 12, 2020 - 11:45 am: Edit |
The Hydrans lost 8 ships and an SAS (see: "The Hydrans lost 8 ships and an SAS" :-)
They pursued with PAL, LGE, [LNHV, 2DE, CU] for 60 compot; the Lyrans had 5EW from a couple uncrippled scouts on the line, the Hydrans rolled badly, and with -3 damage, they did 9, allowing them to kill one of two crippled STTs, losing the CU ad-hoc escort.
The dice were kind to the Hydrans early, but the Lyrans swung back well in the last few rounds (including the pursuit). The Lyrans blew up 5DG, an SAS when dice were bad and it was the only thing they could kill on the line, 2PGS (one of which was on the line, the other of which was the free scout on the last round when they rolled a lot of damage and were leaving anyway), and hit 2SIDs, but when it became apparent that they weren't gonna stick around for all 8xSIDs, and the Hydrans could just repair up to 4 of them with the SB itself for cheap, they took off.
All things being equal, it wasn't that bad for the Lyrans; they killed the last Hydran actual cruisers on the map, lost a bunch of ships, but most of them were DW/DD hulls (I killed one CC, the crippled STT in pursuit, but other than that killed small ships to maximize crippling while also killing a hull), generated a lot of salvage, and while they have two dozen cripples to fix from the SB fight (well, almost 50 total cripples on the Hydran front currently), they have 7xFRD (that are safe from attack) and a SB to repair them all this turn (i.e. 100 repair, which is about 33 ships; there are also a couple BATS in range of some cripples too).
The Hydran capital is without any defenses at all but for the fleet (which is mostly CWs, FFs, and CV groups); they can certainly take it next turn if they pile on and probably leave the SB alone other than pinning it.
By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Monday, October 12, 2020 - 11:51 am: Edit |
Just checked--the Coalition have 141 points of repair to fix on the Hydran front, and have 108 repair capacity that is within reach; they have 4 small cripples unmoved that could strat elsewhere for repair if they were so inclined. So the vast majority of the Coalition ships that were crippled this turn will be repaired for next turn.
It's just gonna be a *huge* repair bill :-)
By Paul Howard (Raven) on Monday, October 12, 2020 - 01:18 pm: Edit |
Peter
Sorry, missed that!
So, how many Hydrans died?
What I meant to ask - what what did the Hydans lose
….and you answered that
Well, Hydrans might be happy that they kept the Capital for another turn.... and so might be able to burn more Fighters than the Coalition and cause more damage?
By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Monday, October 12, 2020 - 01:41 pm: Edit |
The Hydrans are doing well enough; they get another full (spring) production turn on AT10; it is unlikely that they'll lose both the Capital and SB 0215 on CT11 (but likely that they'll lose the Capital if the Coalition feels like pushing them out).
By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Wednesday, October 14, 2020 - 03:53 pm: Edit |
CT10
Combat is over! This turn took a long time as Jason is in his super busy work time of year. But we are moving along!
In Hydran space, the Hydran capital lost its starbase (leaving an undevastated homeworld and not much else), the Coalition recaptured planets 0416 and 0718, and killed the last of the Hydran cruiser fleet over SB 0215 (which survived the fight).
In Kzinti space, the Coalition recaptured planets 1001, 1105, and 1802 (currently cutting off strategic movement between the Fed and Kzinti capitals).
On the Fed/Klingon front, the Klingons recaptured planets 1910 and 2106 (which potentially could have a big fleet on it at the end of the turn), captured numerous provinces, and started setting up a MB in hex 2914.
On the Fed/Romulan front, the Romulans killed 6xBATS, captured planet 3711, neutral planets 3415 and 3912, and a bunch of provinces. They are also setting up a MB in hex 2914.
Ships killed:
-ZIN: FF
-HYD: 5DG, HR, 2PGS, 2CU, HN, SAS
-FED: CL, FFE, 6FF, (SWAC)
-LYR: CC, 2DWE, DW, 4DD, (STT)
-KLI: D6M, D7C, 4D7, 2D6D, D5, 7F5, E4, (F5S)
-ROM: SPF
So 21 dead Alliance and 28 dead Coalition. The Alliance also lost SB, 6BATS, 2PDU. So a pretty bloody turn, and the Coalition are gonna make bank in salvage. As of press time, there are about 70 crippled Coalition hulls on the map, but the vast majority of them will likely be repaired next turn.
By Ted Fay (Catwhoeatsphoto) on Wednesday, October 14, 2020 - 04:48 pm: Edit |
Sounds like a pretty decent Coalition turn.
Peter, do you think the Hydrans are going to try to defend the capital systems without a SB, or do you think they're going to shift the bulk of their navy to 215 to keep pressure on the Lyrans?
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