Well I enjoy following the game. Yes it does seem that the Alliance is doing much better then the other games.

By Jason Langdon (Jaspar) on Monday, November 02, 2020 - 05:25 pm: Edit

Yep. The Coalition built an SB in 1403 which required having ships there and ships in 1407 to protect the planet and surrounding BATS, which meant less ships in Hydran space so that attack was delayed.

Then in Hydran space once the attack started there were less ships going to Kzinti space meaning even though the Kzinti couldnt take out 1403 or 1407, there were not enough Coalition ships to be able to get in to the Capital and devastate the planets.

So the Kzinti are making heaps of money and building full schedules making it even harder to get enough ships to get in to the Capital to devastate. Etc.

The Hydran Capital will fall this turn so there should be a lot of freed up ships which can start to move around. But the Feds are also doing well and have only lost 1 SB by the end of T10. So ships do need to go there too.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Monday, November 02, 2020 - 06:25 pm: Edit

I think the Romulans showing up are going to make a significant impact on the Feds.

I mean, as the Alliance, I feel like I'm doing ok overall, but I suspect that things will start leaning in the direction of the Coalition for a while now.

By Jason Langdon (Jaspar) on Monday, November 02, 2020 - 07:43 pm: Edit

I sure hope so !!

By Richard Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Monday, November 02, 2020 - 11:21 pm: Edit

You'd need as many (or more) ships to defend against the Kzinti without that SB in 1403.

By Jason Langdon (Jaspar) on Monday, November 02, 2020 - 11:43 pm: Edit

Not while the Marquis is around.

Once the Marquis is gone then 1401 is the only place an attack can come from.

Plus, an SB in 1407 only really needs to protect 1407. So having less ships than the Kzinti isnt important in the turns where you arent attacking 1401 to re-devastate.

With the SB in 1403 it can be pinned and then 1307, 1407 and 1507 are open to be attacked.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Wednesday, November 04, 2020 - 07:27 pm: Edit

AT10

The turn is over!

In Hydran space, the Hydrans have about 65 ships (plus a lot of fighters) over the otherwise undefended capital, and then about 45 ships at SB 0215. They have 2 reserves off map totaling about 16 ships, and then a few handfuls of ships in the back field and in southern Hydran space.

In Kzinti space, they have about 20 ships on planet 1202; about 20 ships on planet 1504; a few ships spread around the map; the Capital has about 100 ships. There are two off map reserves totaling 15 ships.

The Fed/Klingon front sees about 45 ships on SB 2204; about 60 ships on SB 2211 including a 13 ships reserve; a full reserve on planet 2708.

On the Fed/Romulan front, there are about 30 ships on SB 3311, a battle line on BATS 3212, and solid reserves in 3008 and 3306.

Map:
http://www.lightlink.com/pdb6/SCD3AT10end.html

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Thursday, November 05, 2020 - 07:29 am: Edit

I wrote:
>>then a few handfuls of ships in the back field and in southern Hydran space."

Clearly meant to be "...southern Lyran space.", where a brave squad of FFs and the GRV are holding down Lyran provinces.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Sunday, December 06, 2020 - 09:01 am: Edit

CT11

Yaa! Jason has been under a lot of water at work, so things have slowed down, but here is CT11 econ:

KLINGON ECO

Old Survey: 71
Survey roll: 3
Survey total: 74

B-10 (1)
Old total: 33
B-10 roll: 3
B-10 total: 36

B-10 (2)
Old total: 9
B-10 roll: 4
B-10 total: 13

DBB: -12 (10 rounds of 12 DBB)
Convoy: 0
Transfers: 20
Salvage: 35.15
Treasury: 41.25

Sub-total: 84.2


Capital: 1 - 5
Major: 8 - 40
Major(dev/cap): 0 - 0
Minor: 15 - 30
Minor(dev/cap): 2 - 2
Province: 24 - 48
Province(off): 3 - 6
Province(dis/cap): 13 - 13
NZ hexes: 42 - 8.4

Sub-total: 152.4

Total: 236.6


Builds:
D7C - D7C - 9
D7 - D7V - 10 (+12)
D6 - D6M - 10
D5 - D5S - 8
2xD5 - 2xAD5 - 12
D5 - D5V - 7 (+12)
5xD5 - 5xD5 - 25
3xF5L - 3xE4 - 7.5
2xF5 - 2xF5E - 8
4xF5 - 4xF5 - 12
E4 - E4 - 2.5 (1509)
BATS - BATS - 9 (+6)
B-10 - B-10 - 5
B-10 - B-10 - 5
CP - CP - 5

Sub-total: 165.0


Overbuilds:

Sub-total: 0


Activations:
2xD6 - 2

Sub-total: 2


Conversions:
(1411) D6 - D6M - 5
(1411) D6 - D6D - 3

Sub-total: 8


Repairs:
(0815) - 8d5, 4f5, 2f5s - 18
(0906) - e4 - 1
(0908) - d5 - 1.5
(1013) - f5, f5s - 2
(1107) - cw - 1.5
(1214) - f5, f5s - 2
(1307) - f5l - 1.5
(1411) - 3f5l, e4 - 5.5
(1507) - d7 - 2
(1509) - 2d6m, d5 - 7.5

Sub-total: 42.5

Total spent: 217.5


Treasury: 19.1

Transfer EP from Lyrans: 20 EP


Start Command Points: 6
Used Command Points: 11
Bought Command Points: 4
IWR Command Points: 3
Current Command Points: 2

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LYRAN ECO

Old Survey: 106
Survey roll: 7
Survey total: 113

Transfers: -20
Convoy:
Salvage: 13.125
Treasury: 50.685

Sub-total: 43.81


Capital: 1 - 5
Major: 8 - 40
Major(dev/cap): 0 - 0
Minor: 10 - 30
Minor(dev/cap): 0 - 0
Province: 11 - 22
Province(off): 9 - 18
Province(dis/cap): 3 - 3
NZ hexes: 8 - 1.6

Sub-total: 119.6

Total EPs: 163.41


Production:
BC - BC - 10
CA - STT - 10
2xCW - CW - 10
CW - CWS - 8
3xDW - 2xDW - 8
3xFF - 3xFF - 7.5 (0404 0411 1403)
CP - CP - 5

Sub-total: 58.5


Overbuilds:

Sub-total: 0


Conversions:

Sub-total: 0


Repairs:
(0411) - cc, stt, 2stj - 8
(0815) - cc, 5cw, cws, 4dw - 19
(0815) - d6m, 2f5 - 5
(1403) - 3cw, 2dw - 7.5

Sub-total: 39.5

Total spent: 98


Treasury: 65.41

Transfer EP to Klingons: 20


Start Command Points: 4
Used Command Points: 8
Bought Command Points: 8
Current Command Points: 4
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ROMULAN ECO

Old Survey: 0
Survey roll: 0
Survey total: 0

Transfers: 0
Convoy: 0
Salvage: 1.25
Treasury: 6.5

Sub-total: 7.75


Capital: 1 - 5
Major: 2 - 10
Major(dev/cap): 0 - 0
Minor: 10 - 30
Minor(dev/cap): 0 - 0
Province: 25 - 50
Province(off): 0 - 0
Province(dis/cap): 3 - 3
NZ hexes: 13 - 2.6

Sub-total: 100.6

Total EPs: 108.35


Production:
CON - CON - 17
FH - FH - 8
SP - SP - 5
SP - SPC - 8
SP - SPF - 7
SP - SPB - 6 (+16)
2xSK - 2xSKE - 9
SK - SK - 3.5
SEH - SEH - 2.5
WE - FAL - 10
SN - SN - 2.5

Sub-total: 94.5


Overbuilds:

Sub-total: 0


Conversions:
(4613)

Sub-total: 0


Repairs:
(3518) - 2sp, snb, bh, we - 7
(4015) - sp, 2k5, bhe - 4.5
(4110) - sp - 1.5

Sub-total: 13

Total spent: 107.5


Treasury: 0.85


Start Command Points: 4
Used Command Points: 0
Bought Command Points: 1
Current Command Points: 5

(I suspect that the Lyrans forgetting to build one of their DWs was just an error that will be remedied when I point it out).

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Saturday, December 12, 2020 - 09:21 am: Edit

CT11

Moves are underway!

On the Hydran front, the Coalition have parked a large number of ships on Capital 0617, including a bunch of Aux CVs, suggesting that they plan on staying. They have also attacked province raiders in Lyran space, and sent a force to retake undefended planet 0416. Plenty of ships left to move.

On the Kzinti front, the Coalition sent a significant force to retake planet 1001, ships to retake planet 1802 (that could still be saved by a reserve), and started moving ships onto Kzinti held planet 1504. Plenty of ships left to move.

On the Fed/Klingon front, the Klingons have started pouring ships on SB 2211; currently 67 Coalition SEQ against 75 Fed SEQ, so the reserve there is not yet pinned, but it probably will be. Plenty of ships left to move.

On the Fed/Romulan front, a few province raiders have moved around, and the Romulans have started attacking BATS 3212.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Tuesday, December 15, 2020 - 09:13 am: Edit

CT11

Moves continue.

On the Kzinti front, the Coalition have sent a force to attack planet 1202; the Lyrans currently have about 30 SEQ; the Kzinti had about 25 SEQ on the planet, and reacted another 15 or so SEQ on from the Capital.

On the Fed front, the Klingons have attacked planet 2106 (which is devastated and undefended) which the Feds declined to react to from SB 2204, as there is a large Klingon fleet in hex 2107. On the Romulan side, the Romulans have started pilling ships on SB 3611; the Feds have about 35 SEQ on the SB; the Romulans have pinned this and still have a million ships they can send if they want to try and kill it this turn.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Sunday, January 10, 2021 - 12:05 pm: Edit

CT11

Slowly but surely, the Coalition continues its onslaught!

In Hydran space, they have parked most of the rest of their fleet on 0617, where there are now about 60 Hydran ships (and then another 23 or so SEQ of fighters, and then the full FSP) facing about 125 SEQ of Coalition. The Hydrans have no fixed defenses in the capital.

In Kzinti space, the Coalition moved the remaining mobile ships to attack planet 1202, where most of the Kzinti Home Fleet reacted. There are currently about 50 SEQ of Coalition facing about 130 SEQ of Kzinti.

There is still a significant fleet in the NW of Fed space to move (in 2107; it can reach numerous targets inside Fed space, many of which are not particularly well protected) and a whole lot of Romulan ships still inside of Romulan space but can reach a lot in Fed space.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Thursday, January 14, 2021 - 09:25 am: Edit

CT11

As moves continue, the Romulans have shored up their assault on SB 3611 (i.e. the 6th Fleet SB); the Feds currently have about 40 SEQ there (and another dozen in a reserve in 3008 that can reach, but it will likely have numerous possible hexes to reserve to), and the Romulans now have about 80 SEQ, so seems likely they intend to kill the SB (and probably will if they decide to). The Romulans are also now attacking planet 3210.

The Klingons have shored up their attack on undefended planet 2106 which they are taking back as a supply point. They still have about 3 dozen ships in 2107 that can attack, and then another 30 or so ships in hex 2914 (with co-located Klingon/Rom MBs being upgraded to BATS) that can reach numerous interior targets.

Moves likely will wrap up soon.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Sunday, January 17, 2021 - 09:00 am: Edit

CT11

The Coalition are currently attacking deep into Fed space, currently attacking planets 2509, 2610, and 3210; BATS 2609 and 3209. The Feds will likely have 2-3 reserves that can move, any of which can save one of these targets, but the Coalition still have about 30 ships to move in 2107 that can potentially pin 1-2 of these reserves.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Tuesday, January 19, 2021 - 03:57 pm: Edit

CT11

Moves are done and reserves have been deployed!

The Coalition shored up their attack on SB 2211, pinning the reserve there.

In Hydran space, 5 battle hexes. SB 0215 had roughly even forces, ship wise, and then a moderate reserve reinforced it, so probably safe for the Hydrans; Capital 0617 has a giant Coalition force facing a significant Hydran force, but I don't think the Hydrans have any chance to hold the hex (even if reserves showed up, which weren't gonna help much); planet 0416 sees a 4 ship attack force likely being repelled by a second modest reserve; planet 0718 is being recaptured with no opposition; there is a mob of Lyrans beating up some Hydran province raiders in southern Lyran space (the Hydrans will lose an FF there).

On the Kzinti front, 4 battle hexes. Planet 1001 is being recaptured with oppressive force (which will see a Kzinti FF die); planet 1202 is a big fight between, like, 50 Coalition facing almost 3 times that many Kzinti (the Kzinti will certainly hold the planet, remains to be seen how long the Coalition will fight); planet 1504 sees about 40 Coalition fighting about 20 Kzinti (who will clearly lose the fight); planet 1802 sees about 15 Coalition facing about 20 Kzinti when both off map reserves showed up and is probably a toss up, with the Kzinti having a minor edge.

On the Fed/Klingon front, 5 battle hexes. Planet 2106 is being recaptured with no opposition by a fleet of about 50 ships; SB 2211 sees almost 100 Klingons facing a little over 60 Feds and the SB--the Feds have way more fighters in the hex (70+ vs the Klingons 37) and it is unclear if the Klignons intend on trying to kill the SB this turn. Planets 2509 and 2610 are both under attack, and probably saved by reserves (2509 is certainly saved while planet 2610 is a closer fight and probably a toss up). Undefended BATS 2609 will go down quickly in the face of a dozen attacking Coalition units.

On the Fed/Romulan front, there are 5 battle hexes also. Planet 3210 is under attack by half a dozen Romulans but will be saved by a reserve that showed up; undefended BATS 3209 will be killed by half a dozen Coalition; BATS 3212 is under attack by about 30 Coalition and defended by 15 Feds, so the BATS will go down, but at least we'll do some damage in return. Planet 3612 (still 2PDU) will be captured by a dozen Romulans. SB 3611 is defended by about 35 Feds and under attack by more than twice that many Romulans, so seems likely it will go down this turn.

A lot of potential for mayhem this turn!

By Graham Cridland (Grahamcridland) on Tuesday, January 19, 2021 - 11:01 pm: Edit

"Planet 1001 is being recaptured with oppressive force (which will see a Kzinti FF die);"

Peter: I've seen you mention big engagements that end with just an FF dying more than once, and I haven't been able to figure it out. Can you give a poor guy a quick explanation of how two larger fleets can tangle with only one FF going boom and (as far as I can tell) no cripples?

It seems to me that the lines will do 20+ damage most of the time...

By Richard Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Wednesday, January 20, 2021 - 12:03 am: Edit

12 directs a frigate, the rest hits fighters.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Wednesday, January 20, 2021 - 07:24 am: Edit

Graham wrote:
>>Peter: I've seen you mention big engagements that end with just an FF dying more than once, and I haven't been able to figure it out. Can you give a poor guy a quick explanation of how two larger fleets can tangle with only one FF going boom and (as far as I can tell) no cripples? >>

In this particular instance (like many of the others), it is a giant pile of Coalition hitting exactly 8 Kzinti, of which 2 are actual ships and the rest are FFs (something like CC, CL, 6FF). As the defender, you can withdraw half the ships (as long as 1 of the 3 highest Command Rating ships stays behind, leaving, say, CL, 3FF), and then of the remaining 4, you can excuse 2 command ships (CL, FF), and then put half the ships left on the line, which is 1FF. So a single FF gets vaporized by the mob of 30 Lyrans or whatever.

In regular fights, you put up a line of a protected DN, protected SC, and then all CV groups with FFs on the outer edge (or something like this; the Kzinti often do something like DN+ADM (c/f), 2[CV, 2MEC, FF], 6IFF, 2FF, (MSC)=84/3 for fights like this). If the Coalition directs an FF, that takes 12, and then probably the rest is sunk on 18 fighters. If they drop the damage, you soak 18 fighters, cripple an interior escort or two (that can't get shot in pursuit), and then leave, having killed something in return. Like, sure, you can't *always* do this, but most of the time, it works out.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Wednesday, January 20, 2021 - 07:14 pm: Edit

Like, for the sake of clarity, a lot of F+E is minimizing losses. If you leave 8 ships (assuming 2 significant ships and then 6xFF) on a target (devastated planet, say), you can fight a similarly sized force, you can fight a bigger force if reinforced by a reserve, and if you are set upon by a giant force, you just give up an FF.

The current situation referenced above, having looked at the map, I have a CC, CVE, 6xFF on planet 1001. Like, 30 ships showed up there, so I just give up an FF and flee; if 8 ships showed up, I'd probably fight, as I can soak 10 damage and still only lose the FF I'd give up by just giving up an FF (3 on fighters, 6 to kill FF, leave +1). If a dozen ships show up, I'd send a reserve. 30 ships show up, so I just sacrifice an FF and leave.

By Graham Cridland (Grahamcridland) on Wednesday, January 20, 2021 - 10:36 pm: Edit

Thank you for the explanation, and sorry for the clutter. I've spent a lot of time getting ships into battle lines, but not nearly as much time getting them out. Now I know the ideal defense force for stray planets.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Thursday, January 21, 2021 - 07:21 am: Edit

Not a problem!

Just keep track of command ratings; one of the 3 highest command rating ships in a force must stay behind and must fight, regardless of all other factors, so if you have, like, CC, 2CW, 5FF in a has that is set upon by a large force, one of the CWs is going to have to fight. A specific weirdness is that the Kzinti SF has a CR of 4, so if you have a stack of, like, CC, CVE, SF, 5FF, the SF is one of the 3 highest command ratings in the stack, so probably is the one that will have to die. But for most everyone else, having a scout frigate in the mix is fine (like, the Hydrans, Fed, and Klingon scout frigates have the same CR as their regular FFs).

As the attacker, 4 ships is the biggest force you can have and then only lose a single ship (as the attacker can't withdraw before combat), so sending out forces of, like, CC, CVL, 2FF kinda things to go beat up province raiders is the way to go--if nothing reacts/reserves into the fight, CC, CVL, 2FF probably will kill an opposing province raiding FF. If a reserve shows up, you let an FF die and run.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Wednesday, January 27, 2021 - 03:56 pm: Edit

CT11

Combat is underway!

On the Hydran front, the Klingons captured planet 0718 (no opposition), killed an HN in hex 0312 (the remaining 6 ships retreated to 0212 and recaptured a province), and are now unexpectedly fighting over SB 0215.

At 0215, the Hydrans have 55 ships (although half of them are FFs), 16 SEQ of fighters (100), then the SB+12 more fighters. The Lyrans have 53 ships, 4 SEQ of fighters (24). I'm not sure what the plan is here--maybe score a few SIDs? We'll see!

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Sunday, January 31, 2021 - 09:15 am: Edit

CT11

Combat continues--over SB 0215, the Lyrans just fought a round to see if I used up my last command point and/or kill something good if they got lucky, but neither of those things happened, so they killed a TR, lose an STJ, and fled.

Over 0617, the Coalition are now fighting to push the Hydrans out of the Capital; the Capital has no defenses (but the homeworld not devastated yet). The Coalition outgun the Hydrans some; the Hydrans have an EW edge currently and a lot of fighters to burn through. On the first round, the Coalition crippled the Hydran Scout Tug, the Hydrans killed a small ship and did a bunch of damage on top of that.

At the start of the fight in 0617, the Hydrans had 64 ships and then 124+[39] fighters. The Coaltion had 110 ships and then 79 fighters.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Saturday, February 06, 2021 - 08:35 am: Edit

CT11

Combat over 0617 is now 6 or 7 rounds in. The Coalition are using a conservative force of some carrier groups, a battle group, and then some rando extra ship, hovering around 105/6 most of the time; the Hydrans have been fielding a line of a carrier group, a bunch of HRs, and some auxes (hoping the Coalition will direct them :-), hovering around 100/4 most of the time.

The first round the Coalition crippled the Hydran scout TG, second round they vaporized an NSC in scout bonus, but mostly have been shooting down HRs. The Hydrans have been killing what they can, and crippling things along the way. One round, the Hydrans rolled bad and failed to blow up a hull due to some minus points, but generally speaking, the Hydrans have killed some good stuff.

The Coalition started rolling up, but have rolled down the last few rounds. It remains to be seen how long the Hydrans will keep the fight up, but they are running low on HRs now.

By Richard Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Saturday, February 06, 2021 - 12:40 pm: Edit

How many command 10s, CAs, TGs, CVs and CWs do the Hydrans have?