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By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Tuesday, June 08, 2021 - 03:02 pm: Edit

This is just a note that the eventual "product" (if it can be called that) will include Ryan Opel's order of battle pages which are available elsewhere on line.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Tuesday, June 08, 2021 - 01:17 pm: Edit

(703) Upgrading Carrier Tugs: Does upgrading a Klingon CVT to a CVT+ (i.e., from 5 fighter factors to 6) count against the carrier limit? Some think it does (see CL26), but others think it does not (since it is the pods being upgraded, not the ship) and upgrading other VP2s to VP3s doesn’t count against the limit. It is noted that the pods on the CVTs are hard welded and no longer separate units. The CL26 ruling lists some exceptions (not including the Klingon CVT) but it could be argued that no Klingon would ever give up a carrier conversion to add one fighter factor to his CVTs, and this argument must finally win the day. So, this upgrade does not count against the carrier limit.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Tuesday, June 08, 2021 - 01:20 pm: Edit

(709) Many have argued that the Hydran CV and the Tholian CVA be reclassified as "medium carriers" since they are, effectively, just CVDs (cruiser-sized hulls stripped of weapons so they can carry a double-sized CVA fighter group). These ships were published ages ago (in SFB), long before the concept of CVDs came about. After much discussion, the staff has decided to make the Hydran ship a medium carrier starting in Y176.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Tuesday, June 08, 2021 - 04:00 pm: Edit

(701.0) Any empire can always substitute a CA or CC for DN or a CA for CC.
(701.0) Should say one SAF per year in either turn.
(702.4) Heavy fighter reference to (529.0) should be (527.0). Auxiliary reference to (763.0) should be (762.0).
(703.0) The engineer unit listed in the setup is the unit that can be activated on the first turn "at war". Since the Klingons (who are not "actually at war") can do (on Turn #1) anything that an empire that is "actually at war" can do, they can use it on Turn #1.
(703.3) Reference to (515.12) should be (525.12).
(705.1) The Kzintis actually build DWs and DWEs one year earlier, so use the Y175 data for Y174.
(705.2) The two allowed early DW prototypes can be built in Y172 and Y173 (not Y173 and Y174). The Kzintis historically completed these ships as DWEs but could build them as DWs if they prefer.
(705.3) Kzinti FFK: Any FKEs produced by CEDS replacements count against the limit of three FFK/FKEs per turn. (FEDS: The elimination of CEDS replacements makes this note moot.)
(706.3) Carriers: Reference to (525.84) should be (525.85).
(709.04) The Romulan FHP mauler is a major six-EP conversion, not a minor conversion.
(709.1B) Reference to (515.316) should be (525.316).
(709.1B) Reference to (515.316) should be (525.316).
(709.1B) This rule includes a limit of four Pegasus-type ships of any one subclass in service at any given time. This is complicated by the four free pre-war PGS, and by any built as substitutions for destroyers. Making the complication impossible is the question of converting some free ones to another sub-type. Adding insult to injury, actually having to go through the entire Hydran fleet and count the Pegasus hulls is just ridiculous. So, overturning all previous rules, rulings, errata, and judgements, there is no in-service numerical limit. You can take your free one as any type you like, build any type you like, and convert existing ones into any type you like.
(709.3) If the Hydran capital survives to Turn #10, it uses the Spring Y177-Y180 schedule in spring turns, and Fall Y176-Y180 schedule in fall turns so that it can start building DWs.
(709.33) Since the HN and CU are both part of the "FF base hull" you could un-convert an AH or SC into either.
(711.0) JagdPanther sometimes listed as JPG.
(711.3) The Lyrans receive their free fighters from Turn #1, having JGP-Vs and Auxiliary carriers and fighters on bases from that time or before.
(713.0) The ISC PF1 turn should be Y182F.
(714.2) LDR MINOR SHIPYARDS: The LDR may build a minor shipyard and a minor conversion facility in any hex of their territory other than 0711 (their capital of Demorak).
(717.2) VUDAR MINOR SHIPYARDS: One Major Conversion Facility activated in: Fall Y172 inside "The Hole." May build no more than: two FW slips for 10 EPs; one DW slip for 15 EPs; one CW slip for 20 EPs; two Minor Conversion Facilities for 10 EPs each.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Tuesday, June 08, 2021 - 04:01 pm: Edit

(756.0) Non-ship units include Auxiliaries, SAFs, SWACS, Swarms, and LTFs.
(757.7) The note about the Hydran and Kzinti destroyers belongs to (757.8).

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