I think it would be allowed it taken to Q&A.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Sunday, August 29, 2021 - 05:52 pm: Edit

Question posed in Q+A.

I think it is theoretically possible to legally move the reserve in this instance, but it all seems fairly convoluted.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Tuesday, August 31, 2021 - 07:57 am: Edit

CT6

No raids.

Op moves have completed, and reserves have been deployed!

In Kzinti space, the Coalition rounded up a lot of provinces and are aggressively retaking planets 1001 and 1504. They avoided the capital this turn. There are 4 battle hexes. Planets 1105 and 1202 see small Coalition forces being repulsed by Kzinti reserves; planet 1001 will see a Kzinti FF killed And a couple other ships flee) by a large occupation force. Planet 1504 sees 50+ ships and a bunch of Aux CVs moving in; there is a solid Kzinti line that reacted in, but it will clearly just fight a round or two and then abandon the planet.

In Hydran space, the Coalition pinned the fleet at SB 0215, and then poured piles of ships into 0617. 4 total battle hexes; in 0513, an HN will be killed by a stack of junk while a couple buddies escape (these ships were capturing a province and potentially blocking reserve movement last turn). SB 0215 sees about 40 Lyrans facing about 40 Hydrans and a SB, so clearly just a pinning action (a small reserve showed up to help anyway). Planet 0718 will be captured by some jank and a bunch of Aux CVs.

In 0617, the Hydrans have 67 ships, all the Auxes, 152.5+[45] fighters on ships, and then a SB (but no PDUs) over the capital and all PDUs on outer system planets except for a single minor planet. The Coalition have about 120 ships, including 5 total maulers, and 41 fighters. It remains to be seen if they intend on trying to take the Capital this turn, or if they are just planning on stripping the remaining PDUs, but we find out soon.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Wednesday, September 01, 2021 - 04:46 pm: Edit

CT6

Combat is well underway.

In Kzinti space, nothing surprising happened. The Coalition recaptured planets 1001 and 1504; planets 1202 and 1105 were rescued by timely reserves. The Coalition moved a significant fleet to planet 1504, so maybe they intend to keep it this time.

In Hydran space, the Lyrans fled after a declined approach battle at SB 0215, captured planet 0718 with minimal losses, killed an HN in hex 0513, and are currently fighting in the Hydran capital. So far, over 5 rounds (of which 2 were uncontested planetary devastatations), the Coalition stripped the PDUs off of 2 major planets (devastating one, leaving a pile of minus points over the other) and one minor planet so far. The Coalition have been rolling way better than the Hydrans, and kind of nuts on top of that; the Coalition rolled, like, 6, 6, 4 to the Hydran's 1, 2, 2. At one planet, the Coalition scored 47 damage an an auto kill, so dropped the damage and vaporized the PDUs, fighters, and devastated the planet instantly. In the other two, they directed PDUs.

Currently 2 planets (1 major, 1 minor) are devastated; 2 are undevastated but without PDUs; the minor in the capital system (Hyreyark) still has 2PDUs on it. Hydrax is undevastated, has no PDUs, but still has a SB over it.

The Hydrans have lost a CU to forced self killing; the Klingons lost a D5S that was on the line, and taken about 10 cripples. It remains to be seen if the Coalition will attack the homeworld this turn.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Thursday, September 02, 2021 - 06:53 am: Edit

CT6

Combat is over!

In Kzinti space, not a ton happened; the Coalition recaptured planets 1001 and 1504 (killing an FF in each spot), and got chased off from planets 1105 and 1202. They reclaimed much of Kzinti space.

In Hydran space, the Coalition took planet 0718, killed a lone HN, and stripped all the PDUs off of all capital planets (and devastating 3 of them). The pursuit from 0617 again saw the Hydrans roll terribly, but they got to kill 2 crippled F5s.

Ships Killed:
-ZIN: 2FF
-HYD: CU, HN

-LYR: CW, FF
-KLI: D5S, E4, (2F5)

By Richard Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Thursday, September 02, 2021 - 07:20 am: Edit

Hopefully the Hydrans at least crippled a lot of Coalition.

By Jason Langdon (Jaspar) on Thursday, September 02, 2021 - 07:23 am: Edit

The Hydrans were dropping damage mostly. So there are a fair few ships to repair, but their rolls were quite low so I would lose 6 fighters and cripple D5s and F5s each turn.

Peter is still yet to put an RN or DG anywhere dangerous, so at some point he is going to have some very powerful fleets to cause headaches.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Thursday, September 02, 2021 - 08:07 am: Edit

Yeah, the Hydrans didn't actually do that much damage; there were 7 or so rounds of combat and a pursuit. The Hydrans (who are coldly pragmatic) didn't fight over PDUless planets, letting them get devastated for nothing, over the 4PDU planets, they uniformly rolled horribly, and over the 2PDU planets, they both rolled horribly, and didn't actually have that big of a compot. I think the Hydrans rolled, for the hex, something like 1, 2, 2, 1, 3, 2.

The one round where they did reasonable damage was over a 4PDU planet where the Coalition scored a 6 and dropped 47 damage (BIR was, like, 7 and probably rolled up some) or something with an autokill; the Hydrans picked off a D5S on the line for 24 and crippled some stuff on top of it.

The Hydrans, as Jason mentioned, haven't put cruisers on the line where the Coalition could kill them except over BATS 0413, and in that one, the Lyrans shot down the scout tug. So the Hydrans still have every single one of their starting cruisers, and then a full couple turns of HR/TR production, to fight over the SB. Which won't save it, but will do damage.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Thursday, September 02, 2021 - 04:12 pm: Edit

CT6

The turn is over!

On the Kzinti front, the Coalition are holding a bunch of provinces, planet 1001 with a token force, planet 1504 with about 50 ships. They have 3 reserves totaling about 30 ships (and then another 20 ships on top of that) in hex 1406; another dozen ship reserve in 1407; yet another dozen ships in reserve at BATS 1807 (along with another 2 dozen ships). Most of the Klingon East Fleet is at BATS 1809.

On the Hydran front, the are 36 Lyrans at SB 0411; the bulk of the Coalition forces are in hex 0815, where they have about 130 ships, including 2 significant reserves, as well as 4FRDs and a dozen cripples. There are another two dozen crippled Coalition spread around the map, that all of which will be repaired next turn.

Map:
http://www.lightlink.com/pdb6/SCD4CT6end.html

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Thursday, September 02, 2021 - 04:53 pm: Edit

AT6

(It occurred to me that I never posted Alliance econ for AT5. ZIN built 3MEC, FKE, FFK, 8FF, converted BC>CV, spent 3 EP on repairs; HYD built 3TR, 2HR, 6CU, 3HN, Scout pod, command point; spent 1 EP on repairs).

y171 SP T6

Kzinti Econ:

Command Points: 1

Exploration: (3) 49+10=59 (+2, 60 next)

Treasury: 14.625 (CT6)

On Map Provinces (24): 14
Off Map Provinces (6): 10
Captured Provinces: 0
On Map Planets: (52): 19
Off Map Planets: (11): 11
Captured Planets: 0
Smuggled:

Total EP: 68.625

Construction T6:
-6 TGT (DN)
-2.5 FF (BC)
-8 MSC
-5 LTT
-12 2MEC
-4 FKE
-3 FFK
-10 4FF (1704, off map)

Construction Total: 50.5

Conversions:
-5 BC>CV (1401, 6FFF)
-1 EFF>FKE (1704)

Conversion Total: 6

Repairs:

Repair Total:

Adopt Homeless Ships:

Total Spent: 56.5

Treasury: 12.125 (AT6)

FFF Left: 6

DBB:

Drone Stockpile: 0.6

Salvage:
————————————————————

Hydran Econ:

Command Points: 0+1=1 (AT6)

Exploration: (3) 32+10=42 (+2, 60 next)

Treasury: 7.875 (CT6)

On Map Provinces (22): 8
Off Map Provinces (4): 8
Captured Provinces: 0.4
On Map Planets: (35): 23
Off Map Planets: (13): 13
Captured Planets: 0
Guild Treasury:

Total EP: 60.275

Construction T6:
-16 PAL (3 FFF)
-6 TG (0.75 FFF)
-5 TR
-5+3 HR
-2.5 CU (HR)
-7.5 3CU (0215)
-7.5 3HN
-5 CP

Construction Total: 57.5

Conversions:
-2 RN>CV (0215, 8.25 FFF)

Conversion Total: 2

Repairs:

Repair Total:

Total Spent: 59.5

Treasury: 0.775 (AT6)

FFF Left: 0

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Thursday, September 02, 2021 - 06:08 pm: Edit

AT6

Raids are happening and Moves are underway. The Alliance are raiding 4 Lyran provinces, and will probably succeed in at least 3 of them (just by virtue of odds).

After significant counting, it turns out that there is no possible way that the entire Hydran fleet can manage to make it into hex 0815 to ty and kill FRDs, so off to greener pastures!

The Hydrans have moved to pin the Lyrans at SB 0411; the Kzinti have started rounding up Coalition province raiders. Plenty to go.

By Stewart Frazier (Frazikar3) on Thursday, September 02, 2021 - 06:46 pm: Edit

-10 4FF (1704, off map)

OK, how?

By Graham Cridland (Grahamcridland) on Thursday, September 02, 2021 - 10:49 pm: Edit

I presume 2 in 1401, one in 1704, and one off map.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Friday, September 03, 2021 - 08:09 am: Edit

Stewart wrote:
>>OK, how?>>

How what? The ZIN spent 10 EPs on 4FFs, of which one was built in 1704, one was built off map. The rest were built at the capital shipyard, which is the default location of building, which doesn't really require notation.

You'll note that the Hydrans also built:

-7.5 3CU (0215)

Which is the same thing (7.5 EPs for 3CUs, one of which is at 0215).

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Friday, September 03, 2021 - 08:13 am: Edit

AT6

Moves continue.

On the Hydran front, the Hydrans are just pinning the ships at Lyran SB 0215, capturing some Lyran provinces (between raids and Hydrans, the Lyrans are going to be down 8 EPs next turn. Which is something), likely liberating planet 0718, and killing a province raider. The Coalition only have a single, moderate reserve on the Hydran front (there was a little confusion between things noted and things on the map earlier, and it turns out that a big Lyran reserve that I thought was on the Hydran front was actually on the Kzinti front. Fog of war!)

On the Kzinti front, the Coalition have a billion reserve ships (6 reserve fleets; it's as if they are planning to attack the Feds or something!), so the Kzinti have limited good options this turn, so they are attacking province raiders where they can do so while avoiding the reserves, and then picking a few fights with significant fleets where the reserves can make it.

By Paul Howard (Raven) on Friday, September 03, 2021 - 12:38 pm: Edit

Peter

If I have told you once, I have told you a million times - don't Exaggerate.

It's only 400 million ships touring Klingon Eastern Space....

…. who would want to attack the Federation

By Paul Howard (Raven) on Friday, September 03, 2021 - 12:39 pm: Edit

...but more importantly - what happened in 617 on C6?

The Hydrans seemed to be lacking ammo..... and then silence (unless the Coalition then ran?)


And what can the Alliance do to help the Feds avoid a turn 7 attack?

By Mike Erickson (Mike_Erickson) on Friday, September 03, 2021 - 01:29 pm: Edit

>> It's only 400 million ships touring Klingon Eastern Space....

It's just an exercise.

--Mike

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Friday, September 03, 2021 - 02:11 pm: Edit

Paul wrote:
>>...but more importantly - what happened in 617 on C6?

From a few posts up:
In Hydran space, the Coalition took planet 0718, killed a lone HN, and stripped all the PDUs off of all capital planets (and devastating 3 of them). The pursuit from 0617 again saw the Hydrans roll terribly, but they got to kill 2 crippled F5s.

>>And what can the Alliance do to help the Feds avoid a turn 7 attack?>>

Nothing? The Klingons are certainly attacking the Feds on T7. All their new ships moved to the Fed/Kzinti front.

On the upside, most of the Klingons in range of the Feds can't get real deep on T7; about 35 ships can get to SB 2204 (probably not enough to kill it?); another 25 ships can make it to SB 2211 (so they could put 60 ships on 2211 if they want to ignore 2204). About 30 ships can get to SB 2915 (which will certainly explode). Another quadrillion (I just keep upping the numbers!) can hit border BATS.

If the Kzinti weren't careful (i.e. they chose to attack BATS 1807), another 2 dozen Klingons could have ended up in range of SB attacks, but the Kzinti judiciously avoided doing anything that would have resulted in the Klingon reserves moving closer to Fed space.

By Paul Howard (Raven) on Friday, September 03, 2021 - 02:48 pm: Edit

Doh - I read the 8.07 report assumed it was still going on ....


Atleast only a small number of Klingon hulls can enter Federation space!

For once 3 SB's will probably not die

By Richard Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Friday, September 03, 2021 - 02:53 pm: Edit

A small number, like 90ish plus a quadrillion hitting BATS?

By Jason Langdon (Jaspar) on Friday, September 03, 2021 - 06:08 pm: Edit

I just want to see a game file where even 2 Fed SB plus the Marquis die.

Im probably far from the best player but I just dont see it.

By Peter Bakija (Bakija) on Friday, September 03, 2021 - 06:15 pm: Edit

I can see 2 Fed SB dying on T7. But not 2 and the Marquis SB.

By Richard Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Friday, September 03, 2021 - 07:38 pm: Edit

It can happen in a Kzinti first situation.

By Jason Langdon (Jaspar) on Friday, September 03, 2021 - 08:48 pm: Edit

Ive never done a Kzinti 1st. Im sure its fairly easy to do, but the idea of the Hydrans pumping out so many RN and DG and carriers...