Archive through November 02, 2021

Star Fleet Universe Discussion Board: Federation & Empire: F&E WARBOOK: F&E Tactical Operations: TacOps After-Action Reports: Archive through November 02, 2021
By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Tuesday, October 26, 2021 - 11:35 pm: Edit

All above fixed on 26 Oct update.

By fabio poli (Fabioz) on Thursday, October 28, 2021 - 04:27 am: Edit

(551.1)(551.11)(700.0) Should the Rom BHB (Battlehawk leader) be added for those rules?

By fabio poli (Fabioz) on Thursday, October 28, 2021 - 04:29 am: Edit

Rom SKL has Avail. date Y72 on TO SIT. Should be Y172?

By fabio poli (Fabioz) on Thursday, October 28, 2021 - 04:32 am: Edit

Kzinti DWSX is missing Cmd Rat. and Avail. date in TO SIT

By fabio poli (Fabioz) on Thursday, October 28, 2021 - 04:33 am: Edit

Kzinti MCC is missing Avail. date in TO SIT

By fabio poli (Fabioz) on Thursday, October 28, 2021 - 04:35 am: Edit

Gorn BDL is missing Conversion and Build cost in TO SIT

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Thursday, October 28, 2021 - 07:31 am: Edit

Jean, that is all SIT stuff, but book is still good.

By Philippe Le Bas (Phil76) on Thursday, October 28, 2021 - 11:11 am: Edit

Klingon B10T number in service
Difference between (551.223) and TO SIT

(551.223) says the Klingons may produce as many
B10Ts as they choose within the rules provided.

SIT says Max one in service

By Philippe Le Bas (Phil76) on Thursday, October 28, 2021 - 11:30 am: Edit

Klingon B10T cost

Difference betwween (551.223) and TO SIT

(551.223) says we need an incomplete B10, an existing tug with 2 battle pods, and 6 EPs must be added for the conversion

SIT gives a conversion cost of 6 if using a TGB, 4 if using a TGA and also gives a construction cost of 10

Note also that SIT refer to a wrong rule (525.324) which is for the B8. Rule should be (551.223)

By Philippe Le Bas (Phil76) on Thursday, October 28, 2021 - 11:50 am: Edit

Federation DLM

TO SIT says 10-11F/5-6 and don't show the fighter factors.

(R2.A10) says the ship carries a pair of fighters for additional firepower and is treated as a “casual carrier”

So factors should be 10-11(1)F/5.6(0.5), note should say the ship is a single ship carrier, and if operating more than 4 fighter factors must be escorted by 3 escorts

By fabio poli (Fabioz) on Friday, October 29, 2021 - 04:57 am: Edit

@ Stevecole any answer for the Rom BHB (9 entry above this)?

By Mike Dowd (Mike_Dowd) on Friday, October 29, 2021 - 10:06 am: Edit

Fabio: I'm no expert, but (551.1) refers to "war" leaders. The Battlehawk was NOT a "war" class.

Note that I am also NOT Steve, let alone on the Staff, either.

By fabio poli (Fabioz) on Friday, October 29, 2021 - 10:40 am: Edit

deleted. problem solved

By Stewart Frazier (Frazikar3) on Sunday, October 31, 2021 - 11:55 am: Edit

(632.53) - Cross-ref (532.1) [Fed A20], should be (631.1) [Police Cutters]

(633.62) - There is an extra '4' at the end of the first sentence, delete this.

(634.53) - Is the 6 EP for the province a case of specific overriding general as (753) notes that the province produces 3 EP?

By fabio poli (Fabioz) on Tuesday, November 02, 2021 - 01:39 pm: Edit

(551.223) Say B10T could be built from Turn #20 (Y179). SIT report Avail. Date Y183

Also by this rule a 20+ uncompleted B10, an existing TG (and existing battle pods) and 6ep are needed for this conversion. The TG and battle pods are destroyed in the conversion. This sum up to 20ep and half B10 for an emergency TUG 14/7.

By comparison a B8 (525.324) use an unbuilt C8 (you build the B8 instead) and 6ep for a 16/8 ship. Cost 6ep+ half B10.

I'll suggest to revisit B10T cost.

By fabio poli (Fabioz) on Tuesday, November 02, 2021 - 01:41 pm: Edit

(551.223) -again- What Tug mission are available for the B10T?

By Thomas Mathews (Turtle) on Tuesday, November 02, 2021 - 01:56 pm: Edit

Fabio, It is able perform all Tug Missions from A to Z, but adjustments to the Factors on the B10T counter would be required because the Battle Pods would be removed or replaced depending upon the assigned mission.
See (R3.150) regarding restrictions of functions that would affect F&E factors, i.e. Drone Bombardment Mission L would not have special sensors available.

NOTE to FEDS and FEAR: I will research a full list of B10T Factors for the various missions by 4PM Eastern Time on Nov 3, 2021.

By fabio poli (Fabioz) on Tuesday, November 02, 2021 - 02:08 pm: Edit

@Turtle
Steve Cole forbid Rescue mission

Can't find R3.150

By Philippe Le Bas (Phil76) on Tuesday, November 02, 2021 - 03:01 pm: Edit

It would have been easier to design the B10T with no pods and calculate the cost from this situation, then to allow it to use pods.

With the current rule, if the Klingons use 2 BPs to create the B10T, then replaces them as allowed per (551.223), what happens when the Klingon replaces the pods on the B10T ? Do they destroy the 2 BPs from the B10T, or do they have 2 BPs above limits

By Philippe Le Bas (Phil76) on Tuesday, November 02, 2021 - 03:10 pm: Edit

Otherwise, (R3.150) list all restrictions for pods on the B10T : in short, launching and landing of fighters at half normal rate (don't know if it is important for F&E stats), pods with special sensors cannot operate them, some weapons arcs restricted.

Pods listed are : C1, P2, T3, B4, H5, PF6, V7, D8, R9, S10, HT11 and PT12

By fabio poli (Fabioz) on Tuesday, November 02, 2021 - 03:11 pm: Edit

BP of the B10T are no more pods. You can rebuild them.
And Turtle say you can mount other pods on B10T (BP, CV, Troop)

By Philippe Le Bas (Phil76) on Tuesday, November 02, 2021 - 03:13 pm: Edit

I know, but if you remove them, what happens ?

By fabio poli (Fabioz) on Tuesday, November 02, 2021 - 03:18 pm: Edit

When you have a B10T it is a TUG 14/7 without pods (the BP destroyed are included in the ship now).
You can mount (think so) 2 other BP to give it a +4 combat factor.
When you remove those, you'll have 2 BP in storage (somewhere).
You can't remove the original BP used to build the B10T.
Just like the CVT.

By Thomas Mathews (Turtle) on Tuesday, November 02, 2021 - 03:40 pm: Edit

@Fabio R3.150 is in the Klingon Master Starship book. It is also in Module R9 for SFB.

By Philippe Le Bas (Phil76) on Tuesday, November 02, 2021 - 03:52 pm: Edit

(R3.150) While plan for the ship were based on battle pods, it would have retained full tug capability and could have carried any Klingon pods.

For me it means that the battle pods could be removed and replaced with other pods, not that the battle pods could stay in place and be completed by other pods.

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