By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Tuesday, October 26, 2021 - 11:35 pm: Edit |
All above fixed on 26 Oct update.
By fabio poli (Fabioz) on Thursday, October 28, 2021 - 04:27 am: Edit |
(551.1)(551.11)(700.0) Should the Rom BHB (Battlehawk leader) be added for those rules?
By fabio poli (Fabioz) on Thursday, October 28, 2021 - 04:29 am: Edit |
Rom SKL has Avail. date Y72 on TO SIT. Should be Y172?
By fabio poli (Fabioz) on Thursday, October 28, 2021 - 04:32 am: Edit |
Kzinti DWSX is missing Cmd Rat. and Avail. date in TO SIT
By fabio poli (Fabioz) on Thursday, October 28, 2021 - 04:33 am: Edit |
Kzinti MCC is missing Avail. date in TO SIT
By fabio poli (Fabioz) on Thursday, October 28, 2021 - 04:35 am: Edit |
Gorn BDL is missing Conversion and Build cost in TO SIT
By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Thursday, October 28, 2021 - 07:31 am: Edit |
Jean, that is all SIT stuff, but book is still good.
By Philippe Le Bas (Phil76) on Thursday, October 28, 2021 - 11:11 am: Edit |
Klingon B10T number in service
Difference between (551.223) and TO SIT
(551.223) says the Klingons may produce as many
B10Ts as they choose within the rules provided.
SIT says Max one in service
By Philippe Le Bas (Phil76) on Thursday, October 28, 2021 - 11:30 am: Edit |
Klingon B10T cost
Difference betwween (551.223) and TO SIT
(551.223) says we need an incomplete B10, an existing tug with 2 battle pods, and 6 EPs must be added for the conversion
SIT gives a conversion cost of 6 if using a TGB, 4 if using a TGA and also gives a construction cost of 10
Note also that SIT refer to a wrong rule (525.324) which is for the B8. Rule should be (551.223)
By Philippe Le Bas (Phil76) on Thursday, October 28, 2021 - 11:50 am: Edit |
Federation DLM
TO SIT says 10-11F/5-6 and don't show the fighter factors.
(R2.A10) says the ship carries a pair of fighters for additional firepower and is treated as a “casual carrier”
So factors should be 10-11(1)F/5.6(0.5), note should say the ship is a single ship carrier, and if operating more than 4 fighter factors must be escorted by 3 escorts
By fabio poli (Fabioz) on Friday, October 29, 2021 - 04:57 am: Edit |
@ Stevecole any answer for the Rom BHB (9 entry above this)?
By Mike Dowd (Mike_Dowd) on Friday, October 29, 2021 - 10:06 am: Edit |
Fabio: I'm no expert, but (551.1) refers to "war" leaders. The Battlehawk was NOT a "war" class.
Note that I am also NOT Steve, let alone on the Staff, either.
By fabio poli (Fabioz) on Friday, October 29, 2021 - 10:40 am: Edit |
deleted. problem solved
By Stewart Frazier (Frazikar3) on Sunday, October 31, 2021 - 11:55 am: Edit |
(632.53) - Cross-ref (532.1) [Fed A20], should be (631.1) [Police Cutters]
(633.62) - There is an extra '4' at the end of the first sentence, delete this.
(634.53) - Is the 6 EP for the province a case of specific overriding general as (753) notes that the province produces 3 EP?
By fabio poli (Fabioz) on Tuesday, November 02, 2021 - 01:39 pm: Edit |
(551.223) Say B10T could be built from Turn #20 (Y179). SIT report Avail. Date Y183
Also by this rule a 20+ uncompleted B10, an existing TG (and existing battle pods) and 6ep are needed for this conversion. The TG and battle pods are destroyed in the conversion. This sum up to 20ep and half B10 for an emergency TUG 14/7.
By comparison a B8 (525.324) use an unbuilt C8 (you build the B8 instead) and 6ep for a 16/8 ship. Cost 6ep+ half B10.
I'll suggest to revisit B10T cost.
By fabio poli (Fabioz) on Tuesday, November 02, 2021 - 01:41 pm: Edit |
(551.223) -again- What Tug mission are available for the B10T?
By Thomas Mathews (Turtle) on Tuesday, November 02, 2021 - 01:56 pm: Edit |
Fabio, It is able perform all Tug Missions from A to Z, but adjustments to the Factors on the B10T counter would be required because the Battle Pods would be removed or replaced depending upon the assigned mission.
See (R3.150) regarding restrictions of functions that would affect F&E factors, i.e. Drone Bombardment Mission L would not have special sensors available.
NOTE to FEDS and FEAR: I will research a full list of B10T Factors for the various missions by 4PM Eastern Time on Nov 3, 2021.
By fabio poli (Fabioz) on Tuesday, November 02, 2021 - 02:08 pm: Edit |
@Turtle
Steve Cole forbid Rescue mission
Can't find R3.150
By Philippe Le Bas (Phil76) on Tuesday, November 02, 2021 - 03:01 pm: Edit |
It would have been easier to design the B10T with no pods and calculate the cost from this situation, then to allow it to use pods.
With the current rule, if the Klingons use 2 BPs to create the B10T, then replaces them as allowed per (551.223), what happens when the Klingon replaces the pods on the B10T ? Do they destroy the 2 BPs from the B10T, or do they have 2 BPs above limits
By Philippe Le Bas (Phil76) on Tuesday, November 02, 2021 - 03:10 pm: Edit |
Otherwise, (R3.150) list all restrictions for pods on the B10T : in short, launching and landing of fighters at half normal rate (don't know if it is important for F&E stats), pods with special sensors cannot operate them, some weapons arcs restricted.
Pods listed are : C1, P2, T3, B4, H5, PF6, V7, D8, R9, S10, HT11 and PT12
By fabio poli (Fabioz) on Tuesday, November 02, 2021 - 03:11 pm: Edit |
BP of the B10T are no more pods. You can rebuild them.
And Turtle say you can mount other pods on B10T (BP, CV, Troop)
By Philippe Le Bas (Phil76) on Tuesday, November 02, 2021 - 03:13 pm: Edit |
I know, but if you remove them, what happens ?
By fabio poli (Fabioz) on Tuesday, November 02, 2021 - 03:18 pm: Edit |
When you have a B10T it is a TUG 14/7 without pods (the BP destroyed are included in the ship now).
You can mount (think so) 2 other BP to give it a +4 combat factor.
When you remove those, you'll have 2 BP in storage (somewhere).
You can't remove the original BP used to build the B10T.
Just like the CVT.
By Thomas Mathews (Turtle) on Tuesday, November 02, 2021 - 03:40 pm: Edit |
@Fabio R3.150 is in the Klingon Master Starship book. It is also in Module R9 for SFB.
By Philippe Le Bas (Phil76) on Tuesday, November 02, 2021 - 03:52 pm: Edit |
(R3.150) While plan for the ship were based on battle pods, it would have retained full tug capability and could have carried any Klingon pods.
For me it means that the battle pods could be removed and replaced with other pods, not that the battle pods could stay in place and be completed by other pods.
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