OLD COMMENTS ON 675

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By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Thursday, November 11, 2021 - 11:52 pm: Edit

I am going to assume that everything in this sub-folder was taken care of in the 10 Nov rewrite which I posted in another sub-folder. If the staff missed something, post it in the open 675 topic.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Sunday, June 20, 2021 - 03:20 pm: Edit

675.3 – This scenario ends on Turn#25 and I think this rule is for any bases that are upgraded on the last turn to count as their larger self in victory conditions. Not sure why ‘Turn#30’ (almost the end of 617) is used instead of ‘next Turn’ as it should amount to the same thing.
675.63 – Lyran shown with a Flag loss in (608.562) but not reflected here
675.A2 – listing ‘NZ 0113-0813’ should be ‘NZ 0113-0514’ to match above text (NZ exchange)
-- are MBs still in 1411 and 1013 [from (608.A22)]
-- Should the term ‘have retreated’ be changed to ‘are retreating’ or ‘have mainly retreated’ as they hold two captured planets (P0416 and P0617) and occupy one province (0614) while administrating two others (0714, 0716)
675.A3 – listing ‘NZ 0913-1319’ should be ‘NZ 0613-1319’ to match above text (NZ exchange)
-- (608.A23) had one PDU on Hydrax.
675.B2 – (608.B22) places a Lyran BTS on 1105, was it destroyed or still there?
675.E2 – PRD(4313) does not work as 4313 is in Sector F, a PRD in Sector E is in 3415, 3612, or 3711 (possibly 3912 if Romulan)
-- (608.E22) places a Romulan BTS on 3612 along with a PDU, is BTS 3415 misplaced or in addition?

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Wednesday, June 09, 2021 - 03:44 pm: Edit

THE STAFF NEEDS TO RESOLVE THIS AND TELL ME WHAT THEY DECIDED.
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(675) MAELSTROM SECTORS E AND F: The combined Romulan OOB shows a total of 9 Condor-type DN hulls (4xCON, 2xSHR, 2xCNV, 1xCNH), which is more than is either physically or historically possible The Romulans start Y173 with 2xCON, 1xSHR and can build one additional DN hull each fall turn, giving an absolute maximum possible of 8 hulls (3 original plus builds in 173, 174, 175, 176, 177) by the start of fall 178. Furthermore, the only (unique) SHR is known to have been destroyed in Y177 (R4.93), and the CON Consul was also destroyed in Y177 (SH63). A historically accurate OOB should probably have: 3xCON, 1xCNH, 2xCNV. This is also more consistent with the Winds of Fire Y181 OOB, which has 2xCON, 2xCNH, 2xCNV. - Jason E. Schaff - 11/14/2009

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Wednesday, June 09, 2021 - 03:46 pm: Edit

STAFF
(675.B3 - P1506 recovers on T20C WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO ADD?

(675.A2 - province 614 was annexable in T19C (before the T#19A raid) = planet 416 held status not shown (could be L5) SVC DOES NOT KNOW WHAT YOU WANT CHANGED.

(675.A3 - province 0517 was LTC on T18C (5 turns) = capital 617 status > K10 SVC DOES NOT KNOW WHAT YOU WANT CHANGED.

(675.A3 - province 0718 was LTC in Gale Force (captured T8C (608.A23)] annexable in T19C (P718 recovers on T24C) SVC DOES NOT KNOW WHAT YOU WANT CHANGED.

(675.B1 - province 1101 claimed by both Kzinti and Lyran, province 803 not claim either = province 1503/1702 is the same province WHAT CHANGES DO YOU WANT ME TO MAKE?

By Stewart Frazier (Frazikar3) on Wednesday, June 09, 2021 - 06:48 pm: Edit

(675.14) - Fed Sector-F GHQ > Sector D GHQ
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(675.3 - '...upgrade is actually complete at the start of Turn #30.' I could see Turn #26 for a base upgrading on Turn #25. Suggest changing from 'Turn #30' to the 'next Turn' so that any upgrades on the last turn count
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675.A2 - What happened to the Lyran PDU in Hydran capital [617 - Hyreark - (608.A22)]
[province 617 should be noted as the planet 617?, LTC = No (same as Klingon LTC)]
- Was the PGB on 416 a recent addition (held since T9, no raids noted)?
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675.A3 - NZ hexes 0613-0813 not shown in Klingon listing but listed in text
[Klingon 517 = Lyran 617]
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675.B1 - Provinces 1503 and 1702 are the same province
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675.B2 - Lyran Province 1101 should be 0903 otherwise both the Lyrans and Kzinti claim 1101
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675.B3 - Since the Klingon are claiming planet 1105 should they claim the province (1104)?
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675.B42 - What NZ hex providing EPs to Sector B from Sector A, none listed in either case
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675.B441 - If both used their full trade rights (4), wouldn't both have 6 EP on account?
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675.B51 - Lyrans have a BTS at 1307 (B2) but VC is for a Lyran BTS at 1107 (B42-B)
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675.E2 - is the PRD location 3415?
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675.E2/675.F1 - Rom ENGs?
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675.F1/675.F2 - NZ hexes 3711/3712 claimed by both Romulans and Gorns

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Thursday, June 10, 2021 - 02:01 pm: Edit

I NEED SENIOR STAFF ENDORSEMENTS/DRAFT CHANGES HERE PLEASE.

Report from Stew: Looking at your copy of my notes, it's not so much of a change but a request for more information, though if the various dispositions are cleaned up and done for all the sectors, that will help as it gives the information on when captured and allows someone to figure out the time needed for annexation (the fact that a province or planet wasn't historically annexed at the earliest opportunity is not the game's fault). [It's all about the money!]

Looking over those notes, P1506 might start 675 annexed and fully recovered (by the annexation rules at least) and if it wasn't, then it could be one of the first decisions to be made with that scenario.

Province 0614 is another that might have been annexed by the scenario start (or after it starts).

Province 0517 contains the Hydran capital and that has the wrong LTC info, it should say Yes due to the length of it being captured (unless the Hydrans were raiding almost every turn). There should be a '*' on the Lyran 0617 line to explain that it is the planet in the capital (or marked P0617).

Province 0718 is annexable but may not have been, along with the planet.

As for the Kzinti problem, the 1503/1702 just needs one number (I 'd use 1502 as it's the smallest number in that province, easier to keep track of, lest for me) and give the Lyrans province 0803 and let the Kzinti keep 1101 (much as I like the Lyrans to keep 1101, I think the Kzinti need the planet in 1202 to enforce a border).

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Wednesday, June 16, 2021 - 04:20 pm: Edit

ITEMS FROM STAGE THREE OF S.O. THAT WERE NOT RESOLVED AT THE TIME.
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(675.3 - '...upgrade is actually complete at the start of Turn #30.' I could see Turn #26 for a base upgrading on Turn #25. Suggest changing from 'Turn #30' to the 'next Turn' so that any upgrades on the last turn count SVC DOES NOT KNOW WHAT YOU WANT DONE.
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(675.A2 - province 614 was annexable in T19C (before the T#19A raid) = planet 416 held status not shown (could be L5) SVC DOES NOT KNOW WHAT YOU WANT CHANGED.
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(675.A2 - What happened to the Lyran PDU in Hydran capital [617 - Hyreark - (608.A22)] [province 617 should be noted as the planet 617?, LTC = No (same as Klingon LTC)] - Was the PGB on 416 a recent addition (held since T9, no raids noted)? SVC DOES NOT KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH ANY OF THIS.
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(675.A3 - NZ hexes 0613-0813 not shown in Klingon listing but listed in text [Klingon 517 = Lyran 617] I CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU WANT DONE.
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(675.A3 - province 0517 was LTC on T18C (5 turns) = capital 617 status > K10 SVC DOES NOT KNOW WHAT YOU WANT CHANGED.
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(675.A3 - province 0718 was LTC in Gale Force (captured T8C (608.A23)] annexable in T19C (P718 recovers on T24C) SVC DOES NOT KNOW WHAT YOU WANT CHANGED.
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(675.B1 - province 1101 claimed by both Kzinti and Lyran, province 803 not claim either = province 1503/1702 is the same province WHAT CHANGES DO YOU WANT ME TO MAKE?
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(675.B1 - Provinces 1503 and 1702 are the same province THEN WHAT DO YOU WANT SVC TO CHANGE?
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(675.B1) Add note that the Kzintis will start heavy fighter deployment under (530.212). This has an effect on the setup of the Kzintis in Winds of Fire (617.0). Thomas Mathews 8 Jun 2014 ON WHAT TURN?
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REMEMBER THAT FIXES FOR THE ABOVE OR ANYTHING ELSE NEED TO BE LINE ITEM FORMAT NOT REPLIES OR DISCUSSIONS.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Wednesday, June 16, 2021 - 04:22 pm: Edit

MORE ITEMS FROM STAGE THREE OF S.O. THAT WERE NOT RESOLVED AT THE TIME.
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(675.B3 - P1506 recovers on T20C WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO ADD?
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(675.B3 - Since the Klingon are claiming planet 1105 should they claim the province (1104)? SVC DOES NOT KNOW WHAT YOU WANT DONE,
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(675.B42 - What NZ hex providing EPs to Sector B from Sector A, none listed in either case THEN SVC WILL NEED THE LIST.
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(675.B441 - If both used their full trade rights (4), wouldn't both have 6 EP on account? SVC AWAITS STAFF INPUT.
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(675.B51 - Lyrans have a BTS at 1307 (B2) but VC is for a Lyran BTS at 1107 (B42-B) SVC DOES NOT KNOW WHAT YOU WANT DONE.
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(675.C2) Lyran Forces SO: add DWT. The Lyrans begin the General War with 2 DWTs and 1 FFT. The FFT is assigned to Sector A in Hurricane. Thomas Mathews 1 Jun 2014 C2 IS KLINGONS, NOT LYRANS. ARE YOU SURE THIS IS NOT THE CHANGE I ALREADY MADE TO B2?
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(675.E2 - is the PRD location 3415? SVC AWAITS STAFF INPUT
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(675.E2/675.F1 - Rom ENGs? SVC AWAITS STAFF INPUT
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(675.F1/675.F2 - NZ hexes 3711/3712 claimed by both Romulans and Gorns SVC AWAITS STAFF INPUT
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(675E2) MAELSTROM SECTORS E AND F: The combined Romulan OOB shows a total of 9 Condor-type DN hulls (4xCON, 2xSHR, 2xCNV, 1xCNH), which is more than is either physically or historically possible The Romulans start Y173 with 2xCON, 1xSHR and can build one additional DN hull each fall turn, giving an absolute maximum possible of 8 hulls (3 original plus builds in 173, 174, 175, 176, 177) by the start of fall 178. Furthermore, the only (unique) SHR is known to have been destroyed in Y177 (R4.93), and the CON Consul was also destroyed in Y177 (SH63). A historically accurate OOB should probably have: 3xCON, 1xCNH, 2xCNV. This is also more consistent with the Winds of Fire Y181 OOB, which has 2xCON, 2xCNH, 2xCNV. - Jason E. Schaff - 11/14/2009 SVC SENT THIS TO THE STAFF FOR THEM TO DECIDE WHAT TO CHANGE.
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By Thomas Mathews (Turtle) on Wednesday, June 16, 2021 - 04:27 pm: Edit

(675.B1) Kzinti Forces: Add: The Kzintis began to deploy Heavy Fighters to their bases under (530.212) on the turn preceding the beginning of Maelstrom. Reason: Turn 20 is the beginning of Kzinti Heavy Fighter Deployment under (530.212) and Maelstrom (675.0), this scenario, begins on Turn 21. Thomas Mathews 16 Jun 2021

FEDS: CONCURS.

By Stewart Frazier (Frazikar3) on Thursday, June 24, 2021 - 08:23 pm: Edit

(675.61) -Kzinti SMs should be 6/10, = 10 (start) -3 SBs (-6) but +1 SB (+2) = 6. SWFrazier 210624
(675.61) -Fed SMs might be 3/4, 4/7, 2/4 = 15 (start) -3 SB (-6) = 9 (3+4+2). SWFrazier 210624

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Thursday, November 11, 2021 - 11:48 pm: Edit

I am going to assume that all reports above this point were handled by the rewrite that the staff sent me. If there is an item above which was not processed, repost it in the 675 topic.

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