The countersheet as it stands. Note that carrier group counters were eliminated, freeing more space.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Thursday, July 28, 2022 - 06:38 am: Edit

JEAN APPROVED TWO SHEETS.

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Sunday, August 21, 2022 - 05:42 am: Edit

FEDS: Sugggest adding Hydran PGZ; performs some missions of an LTT.
Rationale: This is the original, non-tug cargo variant of Pegasus; carries 7 EPs.
ADDED

By Lawrence Bergen (Lar) on Friday, September 02, 2022 - 12:57 pm: Edit

Suggest adding Lyran:
ADD: 2 CWS as only 1 appears on sheet Bravo (the only sheet to have them)
ADD: 2 DWS as only 1 appears on sheet Bravo (the only sheet to have them)
FEDS: CONCURS if space is available; count them as first alternates should we not find another need.
THIS HAS BEEN DONE.

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Tuesday, May 14, 2024 - 05:57 am: Edit

Would it be possible to have the LIMA sheet printed as a HALF SHEET (140 counters) with just the AUX CARRIERS and other LIMITED and 'one-off' units (ie 23rd/77th/stasis units) from CO? (maybe include the Jumbo/Heavy Aux carriers and troop ships it fill it out)

THIS WOULD MEAN CREATING AN ENTIRELY NEW SHEET WHICH ISN'T IN THE PRODUCTION SCHEDULE. SORRY, CANNOT DO IT. ANOTHER TIME IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN A REALLY CONVENIENT WAY TO FILL A SHEET WE COULDN'T THINK OF ANYTHING TO PRINT, BUT NOT NOW.

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Wednesday, May 15, 2024 - 05:51 am: Edit

What unit TYPES must be on Sheet KILO because they were introduced in COMBINED OPS:

FED: BCJ NCA DW DWA DWS LTT LAV(4) SAV(6)

KLINGON: D7D D5W D5D F5W D6S MD5 SBA•• B10A•• C9A C7A D7A D5A LTT LAV(4) SAV(6)

ROMULAN: TH KH SPJ CH(2) SEB SEC SEE SEH LAV(3) SAV(4)

KZINTI: NCA DW DWE DWS MSC LTT LAV(4) SAV(6)

GORN: CM LSC BDP LTT LAV(3) SAV(4)

THOLIAN: CC CW CWE CWS PFW LTT LAV(2) SAV(2)

ORION: BCH BPF SAL DBR DWS LRS

HYDRAN: MHK IRQ DWF DWH LTT LAV(3) SAV(5)

LYRAN: CVA* NCA STJ LTT LAV(2) SAV(2)
*NOT IN BASIC SET

(#) = MAX IN SERVICE

The CO product introduced: Shock Ships, Light Maulers, Stasis, NCAs, LTTs, many DWs/DWEs/DWSs, some specialty Scouts, Troop ships, Aux Carriers, a few PFTs.
Note that G-Units introduced in CO are on the 'M' Sheet.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Wednesday, May 15, 2024 - 10:21 pm: Edit

As far as G-ships on M-sheet, if we need an extra of one or two we can add them to KILO.

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Thursday, May 16, 2024 - 07:07 am: Edit

Steve:

Can we remove ALL the warship carriers and Space Control Ships from sheet KILO as they are the 1993 legacy counters from the various carrier GROUP counters? All these carriers (except the Romulan SEB) are found in BASIC SET OR FIGHTER OPERATIONS counter sheets. The reason they were included is that CO introduced new escorts not found in basic set, thus requiring a new carrier GROUP counter with those new escorts.

Suggest eliminating carriers/SCSs at: A12, B1, B7, B8, B9, D9, E7, F7, H1, H8, H9, J1, L13, N3, N13, N14, N15, N16

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May I also suggest reducing ALL multi-ship counters (3XX) by HALF since we are going to have two sheet of KILO?

Suggest: C1, D1, J2

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We also have some legacy 1993 BASIC SET warship counters that can be removed:

T-DD at C19
R-SNB at D12
H-DWE at E19
H-AH at F19

These are all found on the BASIC SET sheets A/B.
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If we do all of the above, can we consolidate the Klingons onto two BLACK blocks and ADD another RED block in its place? There are several CO related ships we could add that got left out of the 1993 sheet (a few such examples include the Romulan K5G, BHG, and the Tholian FTL).

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Friday, May 24, 2024 - 04:12 am: Edit

DONE

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Sunday, May 26, 2024 - 04:48 pm: Edit

F&E Community:

Can someone do a hard target search for any missing "G", commando, or troop ships that have NOT been published elsewhere in F&E. Since CO is the product that introduces commando ships, then this is the proper place make a recommendation to ADB for their inclusion.

I'm only asking for General War empires.

Thanks.

By Gary Carney (Nerroth) on Sunday, May 26, 2024 - 08:03 pm: Edit

PROCESSED

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Monday, May 27, 2024 - 02:20 am: Edit

ALL OF THIS WAS DONE
The follow units suggested above were published elsewhere:

LNHG: AO Sheet P&Q 2021
KNHG: TO Sheet Oscar 2021
JGPG: AO Sheet P&Q 2021

FEDS: Does ADB want to include these and other HDWGs to this product?

The Tholian HDWG has no counter and space is available on KILO:

Tholian HDWG: Ref: 86; Factors: 6-7(1)G/3-4(0.5)G: Product: CO; CR 6; Y187; Size: HDW(4); From DD: 3+1 From PC: 5v+1 From CMC: 4v+1 From HDW: 1; For DD: 6+1; salv 1.250; Notes: Commando Ship; size-3§

All the other HDWGs for the F,K,R,Z,G,H,L were published on AO Sheet N&O 2015

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KILO Space available:

DLMG: Ref: A10; Factors 10-11FG(1)/5-6G(0.5); Product: CO: CR 9; Y180; Size: DLM(2); From DLM: 1 From DNL: 3+1; For DN: 19+1; Salv 4.200; Notes: Commando mode; conjectural.

DLMK: Ref: A10; Factors 11F(1)/6(0.5); Product: CO: CR 9; Y180; Size: DLM(2); From DLM: 1 From DNL: 2+1; For DN: 18+1; Salv 4.200; Notes: Combat mode; conjectural.

DLMS: Ref: A10; Factors 10-11F*(1)/5-6(0.5); Product: CO: CR 9; Y180; Size: DLM(2); From DLM: 2 From DNL: 4v+1; For DN: 20+1; Salv 4.200; Notes: Scout mode; (2EW:8AF)(1EW:10AF); conjectural.

DLMP: Ref: A10; Factors 10-11PF*(1)/5-6P(0.5); Product: CO: CR; Y181F; Size: DLM(2); From DLM: 1+POG From DNL: 3+1+POG; For DN: 19+1+POG; Salv 4.200; Notes: PF Tender mode; Scout (2EW:8AF)(1EW:10AF); PF conjectural.

FEDS advises that the other variants (A:A20, V:F18, Y:F101, Z:F111) can be presented on the FO VULKAN Sheet where they are better suited for that fighter oriented sheet and spaces are available there.

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GHG: As search of (R4.135) shows no variants of the commando variant of the GryphonHawk. The only variants in the MSSB include the GryphonHawk-J heavy assault cruiser (R4.A40) and GryphonHawk-C heavy scout cruiser (R4.A41) and a mention in (R4.A41) of a survey version of the GHC (which be designated as a GHQ). This doesn't preclude ADB from creating such GHG since this is a modular ship that could, in theory, carry G-modules. However, as of now, one does not exists in the MSSB. FEDS would not object to its inclusion on CO's Sheet KILO.

If added (KILO space is available):
GHG: Ref: TBD; Factors: 7GG/4G: Product: CO; CR 6; Y176; Size: GHA(3); From GHA: 3; For GHA: 5.5; salv 1.375; Notes: Commando Ship; Modular Ship, §

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Orion HDWG: Ref: 34; Factors: 6-7(1)G/3-4(0.5)G: Product: CO; CR 5; Y182; Size: HDW(4); From DW: 3.5+1 From HDW: 1; For DW: 6+1; salv 1.250; Notes: Commando Ship; size-3§

By Warren Mathews (Turtle) on Wednesday, May 29, 2024 - 10:45 am: Edit

SVC: the changes to the Hydrans are part of the half factor upgrade authorized during the F&E2010 revision.
SVC APPRECIATES THIS CLARIFICATION AND ASKS IF YOU EVER DO SUCH CHANGES AGAIN THAT YOU NOTE THIS AT THE TIME.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Wednesday, May 29, 2024 - 03:31 pm: Edit

PENDING CHUCK STRONG ENDORSEMENT
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By Stewart Frazier
One obvious add is one or two NCA plus an NCA squadron to the Lyrans
SVC IS GOOD WITH IT
FEDS: One Lyran NCA and one Lyran 3NCA squadron included in my LYRAN counter analysis and recommendations below.
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By Jason E. Schaff
Recommended additions of auxiliary carriers, giving each empire enough counters to meet its in-service limits.
SVC NOTES THAT THE CHANGE TO TWO SHEETS WILL REQUIRE THIS TO BE RECALCULATED FROM SCRATCH. SOMEONE POST THE CURRENT REVISED UPDATED CORRECTED SERVICE LIMITS AND I'LL FIGURE IT OUT.
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By Ryan Opel (Ryan)
We are going to need BS and BSX counters since the generics were removed.
FEDS: BS/BSX included in my GENERIC counter analysis and recommendations below.
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By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Wednesday, May 29, 2024 - 03:43 pm: Edit

SPECIAL NOTE
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By Jason E. Schaff
Suggest removing all SCSs from the revised countersheet in order to provide more space.
RATIONALE: The original sheets K and L included the SCS counters (as I understand it) because no counters were provided in the original basic game. The SCSs are now on sheets alpha or bravo and thus are not needed on the revised K and L:
(Note; It looks like the Fed SCS and Hydran LP have already been removed.)
This removes the following counters:
Klingon C8S - counter H-1
Gorn SCS - counter N-3
Romulan PHX - counter A-19
Lyran SCS - counter J-14
Kzinti SCS - counter L-13
CHUCK STRONG APPROVED
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SVC MARKED THESE "D?" BUT LEFT THEM ON THE SHEET. IF WE NEED THE SPACE FOR SOMETHING IMPORTANT, WE CAN DELETE THEM. IF WE'RE JUST GOING TO FILL THE SPOT WITH A DW OR CW OR SOMETHING COMMON I'D JUST AS SOON LEAVE THEM.
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MATTER REMAINS PENDING

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Thursday, May 30, 2024 - 12:17 am: Edit

DONE, FACTORS CHANGED TO MATCH SHEET 80 ALREADY PUBLISHED
FEDS: We were told Sheet 80 were playtest counters and subject to final evaluation. I recommend going with these re-evaluated and corrected values.

Jumbo Aux Ground Troop:
The FTJ is a 3-Pod JUMBO with two troop pods (with GGGG) and one combat support pod.
FTJ: Factors 3-6GGGG/2-3GG - All empires [ Hydran: Factors 2-6(1)GGGG/1-3(0.5)GG ]
(Alternate F&E Style designation would be JAG)

Jumbo Aux Ground Troop (Combat):
The FTJC is a 3-Pod JUMBO with ONE troop pod (with GG) and TWO combat support pods.
FTJC: Factors 5-6GG/3G - All empires [ Hydran: Factors 3-6(2)GG/2-3(1)G ]
(Alternate F&E Style designation would be JAGC)

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Jumbo Aux Carrier:
The JAV is a 3-Pod JUMBO with two carrier pods (12 FtrFactors) and one combat support pod.
JAV: Factors: 5-6(12)/3(6) - All empires [ Hydran: Factors 4-6(13)/2-3(6.5) ]


Jumbo Aux Carrier (Combat):
The JAVC is a 3-Pod JUMBO with ONE carrier pod with (6 FtrFactors) and TWO combat support pods.
JAVC: Factors 6(6)/3(3) - All empires [ Hydran: Factors 5-6(7)/2-3(3.5) ]

By Gary Carney (Nerroth) on Thursday, May 30, 2024 - 12:39 pm: Edit

I wasn't sure to post this here, or over in the Countersheet Sierra thread, so apologies in advance:

In this thread, there is a request to add a counter for the SparrowHawk-T (R4.124) from SFB Module R9. While over in the Sierra thread, there is a request to add a counter for the FireHawk-T (R4.125) from that same module. Both campaign conjectural units are capable of operating pods, as a "true" LTT or Tug respectively.

While I certainly support the inclusion of each counter on its respective sheet, I wanted to clarify: would there also need to be a new set of Romulan pod counters, either here or on another countersheet (or perhaps split across countersheets, depending on the mission each pod would be used for), so as to represent the Klingon-type pods listed in Module R9 under (R4.126) for use by these units? Or are there sufficient "generic" pod counters, or perhaps counters for equivalent Klingon-type pods used by other empires, currently in print that can be used as stand-ins for the time being?

FEDS: Unless directed by ADB, we don't have sufficient space on any of the current sheets in the works to add a whole series of conjectural Romulan pods especially the number oof duplicates needed for a major empire. May I suggest the continued use of the generic pods until ADB makes a production decision.

By Gary Carney (Nerroth) on Wednesday, May 29, 2024 - 06:52 pm: Edit

SPACE RESERVED BUT NO PROMISES IT WILL HOLD.

Would it be too late to consider adding a "GryphonHawk-H" cargo transport counter?

While several other Alpha empires have LTTs on the above countersheet, the Romulans were given their closest historical equivalent, the SparrowHawk-H, in Basic Set. However, since the GryphonHawk can be assigned this transport configuration also, and would still be closer to an LTT than a full-sized tug in terms of size and mission capability, perhaps it might be appropriate to offer it here - should there be a "spare" red counter for it to go on, that is.

Further, given the addition of the Federation DLMP to the latest countersheet revision, might one other spare red counter be used to cover the "GryphonHawk-E" fast patrol ship tender configuration?

If either or both of the above are possible, I would suggest (based on the precedents offered by other GryphonHawk configurations offered to date) that the GryphonHawk-H factors be set at 6-7T/3-4; and/or that the GryphonHawk-E factors be set at 6-7P*/3-4P.

SVC SAYS WE CAN DO THIS IF COUNTERS ARE AVAILABLE. NOT SURE ABOUT THAT YET.

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Thursday, May 30, 2024 - 01:29 am: Edit

DONE, MOSTLY, SOME DELETIONS REMAIN UNDELETED AS NO REPLACEMENT HAS BEEN NAMED AND THE EXISTING COUNTER IS USEFUL IF NOT CRITICAL.--SVC

Now that CO will have TWO KILO SHEETS instead of one, RECOMMEND the following ship count CHANGES:

FEDERATION:
Fed LTT: NO CHANGES; keep all four counters. (Net +4)
Fed 3NCA: 1993 sheet had three; reduce to TWO and DELETE C-1. (Net +1)
Fed NCA: 1993 sheet had five; reduce to FOUR and DELETE C-8. (Net +3)
Fed 3DW: NO CHANGES; 1993 sheet had three; ADB already reduced to TWO on latest KILO (moved existing DWA to D-1). (Net +1)
Fed DW: NO CHANGES; keep all four. (Net +4)
Fed DWA: NO CHANGES; keep all five (remove 'D?' from D-1 and D-10). (Net +5)
Fed DWS: 1993 sheet had two; ADD TWO at C-9 and B-9 (deleting the obsolete carrier groups there). (Net +6)

All LAV/SAV counters marked with 'D!' marking (3) can be deleted.
The SCS at F-10 (1) can be deleted as there are THREE in basic set (A).
The obsolete carrier group counters at A-7/8, B-1/7/8/9, C-9, E-8, F-8 (9) can be deleted. These counters were simply added in 1993 because DWAs (not found in Basic Set) replaced FFEs in their respective groups.
Doing the above will open 13 blue counters. (Recommend reserving six spaces for the six Heavy/Jumbo Auxes).

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Thursday, May 30, 2024 - 01:49 am: Edit

DONE

Now that CO will have TWO KILO SHEETS instead of one, RECOMMEND the following ship count CHANGES:

KLINGON:

B10A, K9A, C7A, D7A, D5A, SB-A: NO CHANGES; keep one of each counter. (Net +1 each)
LTT: NO CHANGES; keep all three counters. (Net +3)
D7D: 1993 sheet had two; reduce to ONE and DELETE H-10. (Net 0)
D6S: NO CHANGES; keep both counters. (Net +2)
D5D: NO CHANGES; keep both counters. (Net +2)
MD5: NO CHANGES; keep both counters. (Net +2)
D5W: NO CHANGES; keep all three counters. (Net +3)
3D5W: 1993 sheet had two; reduce to ONE and DELETE I-5. (Net 0)
F5W: 1993 sheet had five; reduce to four and DELETE J-9. (Net +3)
3F5W: 1993 sheet had three; reduce to TWO and DELETE L-7. (Net +1)

SIX open black spaces at: H-10 I-5; J-1, J-2, J-9, J-10 (Recommend reserving these space for the six Heavy/Jumbo Auxes).

The BLACK block on rows K and J can revert to RED.
Rationale:
There are 9xD5V in basic set (A&B) plus 6xD5V in FO (Vulkan/I&J): Total: 15
There are 3xC8V in basic set (A&B) plus 2xC8V in FO (I&J): Total: 5
Note: The three D5Vs on the current draft of this sheet were originally three 3D5V carrier group counters.
The 3F5W was removed as part of the above recommendation.
The LAVs/SAVs are no longer required.

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Thursday, May 30, 2024 - 05:10 am: Edit

DONE, MOSTLY, ONE DELETION REMAINS UNDELETED AS NO REPLACEMENT HAS BEEN NAMED AND THE EXISTING COUNTER IS USEFUL IF NOT CRITICAL.--SVC

Now that CO will have TWO KILO SHEETS instead of one, RECOMMEND the following SHIP CHANGES:

GORN:

LTT: NO CHANGES; keep both counters. (Net +2)
LSC: 1993 sheet had one; ADD ONE at M-8. (Net +3)
CM: 1993 sheet had two; ADD ONE at N-3. (Net +4) [The SCS there can be deleted as there are THREE in basic set (A).]
BDP: NO CHANGES; keep the one counter. (Net +1)

NINE open white spaces at: M-8/9/10; N-5/6/7/8/9/10. (Recommend reserving six spaces for the six Heavy/Jumbo Auxes).

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Thursday, May 30, 2024 - 07:09 am: Edit

DONE

ROMULAN:

KH, SPJ, TH, SEC, SEB: NO CHANGES; keep one of each counter. (Net +1 each) [Remove the 'D?' on the TH at B-12 as this ship is still needed.]
2CH: 1993 sheet had one PFT group counter; CHANGE it to a single CH at A-18. (Net 0) Factors 2-5pi/1-3pi symbol.
SEE: 1993 sheet had two; ADD ONE at A-19. (Net +4) The PHX there can be deleted as there are THREE in basic set (A).
SEH: NO CHANGES; keep the four counters. (Net +4)
3SEH: 1993 sheet had two; reduce to ONE and DELETE C-11. (Net 0)
SNB: DELETE the one at D-12 as basic set has 18.

Since CO introduces LTTs, FEDS recommends adding ONE Romulan LTT (SparrowHawk-T). The Romulan never built true light tactical transport. The SparrowHawk-H was used as a priority cargo transport (R4.31), cargo hauler and used a variety of other ships to complete the various light tactical transport missions. For use in campaigns.

Romulan Commando/Scout ship ADDS:
KRG
K4G (Reserve slot pending SPP Review and ADB approval)
K4S (Reserve slot pending SPP Review and ADB approval)

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THOLIANS
LAV, SAV, CC, LTT, PFW, 3CW, CWS, CWE: NO CHANGES; keep one of each counter. (Net +1 each)
CW: NO CHANGES; keep all three counters. (Net +3)


CO added Pod/Pallet/Packs
Recommend one each the following Tholian pack ADDS:

T-Pack (Troop)
B-Pack (Battle)
R-Pack (Repair)
HFR-Pack (HF Replacement)
P-Pack (Power) Helps attached ship to function like a web tender under (539.41)

F&E Data to follow later. The Tholian MSSB packs are under R7.25. These are NOT conjectural. These packs (except the T-Pack) didn't exist when the original 1993 sheets were produced.
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This leaves open ~20 RED counters less the nine suggested Romulan adds above (assuming the BLACK ones revert back to RED.) Recommend reserving 12 spaces for the 12 Heavy/Jumbo Auxes (Rom/Tholian).

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Thursday, May 30, 2024 - 07:12 am: Edit

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Thursday, May 30, 2024 - 03:44 pm: Edit

DONE, MOSTLY, SOME DELETIONS REMAIN UNDELETED AS NO REPLACEMENT HAS BEEN NAMED AND THE EXISTING COUNTER IS USEFUL IF NOT CRITICAL. THERE ARE STILL A LOT OF OPEN COUNTERS AND SOME MAY MOVE TO LYRANS.--SVC

CO will have TWO KILO SHEETS instead of one, RECOMMEND the following ship count CHANGES:

HYDRAN:

All LAV/SAV counters marked with 'D!' marking (3) can be deleted. There are now sufficient numbers of each to meet the max in-service requirements.

3DWH, 3DWF: NO CHANGES; keep one of each counter. (Net +1 each)
MHK, IRQ, DWH, DWF: NO CHANGES; keep all three of each counter. (Net +3 each)
LTT: 1993 sheet had two; ADD ONE at F-20. (Net +4)
DWE: DELETE E-19 (1) as there are 13 total in FO (Vulkan/J) where the counter was introduced.
AH: DELETE F-19 (1) as there are 18 total in basic set (A&B) and ten more in FO (J) for a total of 28.

At least 12 green spaces remain open plus any recommend deletions (5) from above. (Recommend reserving six spaces for the six Heavy/Jumbo Auxes).

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Thursday, May 30, 2024 - 04:51 pm: Edit

DONE

CO will have TWO KILO SHEETS instead of one, RECOMMEND the following ship count CHANGES:

LYRAN:

All LAV/SAV: NO CHANGES as there are sufficient numbers of each to meet the max in-service requirements.

NCA: 1993 sheet had two; ADD ONE at J-14. (Net +4) [The SCS there can be deleted as there are THREE in basic set (A).]
3NCA: 1993 sheet had none; ADD ONE at J-15. (Net +2)

LTT, STJ: 1993 sheet had two each; NO CHANGES; keep two of each counter. (Net +2 each)
CWS/DWS: KEEP two each of these recently added counters. (Net +4 each)

This leaves open SIX YELLOW counters. Recommend reserving the six spaces for the six Heavy/Jumbo Auxes.

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Thursday, May 30, 2024 - 04:53 pm: Edit

DONE, BUT COUNT DID NOT BALANCE, MORE EMPTY THAN YOU COUNTED

CO will have TWO KILO SHEETS instead of one, RECOMMEND the following ship count CHANGES:

KZINTI:

All LAV/SAV counters marked with 'D!' marking (4) can be deleted. There are now sufficient numbers of each to meet the max in-service requirements.

LTT: 1993 sheet had two; ADD ONE at L-13. (Net +4) [The SCS there can be deleted as there are THREE in basic set (A).]
MSC: 1993 sheet had two; ADD ONE at L-20. (Net +4)
DWE: 1993 sheet had four; ADD ONE at K-19. (Net +6)
DW: 1993 sheet had four; NO CHANGES. (Net +4)
3DW: 1993 sheet had three; reduce to TWO and DELETE N-17. (Net +1)
DWS: 1993 sheet had one; ADD ONE at N-12. (Net +3)
3NCA: 1993 sheet had one; NO CHANGES. (Net +1)
NCA: 1993 sheet had three; NO CHANGES. (Net +3)

The obsolete carrier group counters at N-13/14/15/16 (4) can be deleted. These counters were simply added in 1993 because DWEs (not found in Basic Set) replaced EFFs in their respective groups.

Doing the above will open 8 white counters. (Recommend reserving six spaces for the six Heavy/Jumbo Auxes)

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The remaining TWO white counters at K-17/18:

ADD GENERIC (Blue Lettering) BS (no fighters) and BSX (w Ftrs & PFs)

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Friday, May 31, 2024 - 04:28 pm: Edit

UPDATED SHEET

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Friday, May 31, 2024 - 04:38 pm: Edit

PROCESSED

FEDS: The ThunderHawk (TH) at B-12 must be retained as it is the only counter in F&E. DONE

Is the counter at D-12 supposed to be a Romulan campaign LTT (otherwise know as the SPT?)? Note that ADB long ago standardized 'LTT' for all Light Tactical Transports regardless of the actual SFU designation.
SEE PREVIOUS POST FROM SOMEONE (GARY?) ABOUT THE NEED FOR THAT SPECIFIC DESIGNATION. IT'S NOT AN SPH BUT A UNIQUE SHIP.

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Saturday, June 01, 2024 - 05:01 am: Edit

FEDS Recommended ADDED Ships: DONE

Romulan SPR: Slot C-11: SparrowHawk-R, Factors 5-7RR/2-7: Ref 52; Prod CO; CR 6; Y170; Size SP(3); From SP?: 2; For SP: 7; salv 1.250; Notes: Field Repair Ship. 8 Repair Points. SparrowHawk configured with R-modules. Modules are represented by the 'repair pod' under (422.8). R-modules must be installed on SparrowHawk using (433.43). Limit 1 in service.

Tholian PCR: Slot F-20: PC Repair Ship, Factors 4RR/2: Ref 18; Prod CO; CR 3; Y160; Size PC(4); From PC: 4; For PC: 4.5; salv 0.625; Notes: Field Repair Ship. 4 Repair Points; can carry 2 EP or move single weight pod. Functions as Theater Transport under (509.1) limited to missions C/E/H/J1/J1/M. Limit 2 in service.

Tholian FTL: Slot D-20: This unit was not printed on Sheet M in 1993.

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Saturday, June 01, 2024 - 06:05 am: Edit

Tholian Pack Factors and Data on KILO:DONE

Tholian T-P at E-18: Ref 25C; 0G/TROOP PACK; Product CO; CR -; Y179; size Pack; Conv -NA-; Build: 1, Salv 0.250; Notes: Troop Pack. Operates on: LTT; TGA(2); NTG(2), CPC, PCR, FCR. Limit 2.

Tholian B-P at E-19: Ref 25F; 2-0/BATTLE PACK; Product CO; CR -; Y179; size Pack; Conv -NA-; Build: 2, Salv 0.250; Notes: Battle Pack. Operates on: LTT; TGA(2); NTG(2), CPC, PCR, FCR. Limit 2.

Tholian R-P at E-20: Ref 25B; 0R/REPAIR PACK; Product CO; CR -; Y179; size Pack; Conv -NA-; Build: 2, Salv 0.250; Notes: Repair Pack. 4 Repair Points. Operates on: LTT; TGA(2); NTG(2), CPC, PCR, FCR. Limit 2.

Tholian HFR-P at F-18: Ref 25B; 0[8H]/HF REPLACE PACK; Product CO; CR -; Y179; size Pack; Conv -NA-; Build: 1+8, Salv 0.250; Notes: HF Replacement Pack. Operates on: LTT; TGA(2); NTG(2), CPC, PCR, FCR. Limit 2.

Tholian P-P at F-19: Ref 119; 0[8H]/WEB POWER PACK; Product CO; CR -; Y179; size Pack; Conv -NA-; Build: 1.5, Salv 0.250; Notes: Web Tender Power Pack. Operates as a Web Tender under (539.41) on: LTT; TGA(2); NTG(2), CPC, PCR, FCR. Limit 2.

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Sunday, June 02, 2024 - 01:35 am: Edit

PROCESSED

CO product will have TWO KILO SHEETS instead of one, RECOMMEND the following ship count CHANGES:

Romulan K4C: REPLACE one Tholian CW at D-14 with K4C. 1993 sheet had three CWs but with the extra sheet, the change will still result in an increase (CW: Net +1).
K4C Factors: 5-4/2; Ref TBD; Product CO; CR 4; Y???; Size K4(4); From K4: 1 From E4: 2 From E4C: 1; For: E4: 3.5; Salv 0.875; Notes: Leader variant of E4 escort §. Limit one per turn by any means.


Klingon E4C: REPLACE one F5W at J-7 with E4C. 1993 sheet had five F5Ws but with the extra sheet, the change will still result in an increase (F5W: Net +3).
E4C Factors: 5-4/2; Ref 139; Product CO; CR 4; Y129; Size E4(4); From E4: 1; For: E4: 3.5; Salv 0.875; Notes: Leader variant of E4 escort §. Limit one per turn by any means.

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Sunday, June 02, 2024 - 06:03 am: Edit

FEDS RECOMMENDATIONS for KILO: ALL DONE

Fed SCS: REMOVE counter at F-10 and add to VALKAN Sheet. GOT KICKED OUT OF VULCAN BY YOU, FIND A SPOT ON SIERRA?

Orion DBP: Slot E-8 (replaces obsolete carrier group). Factors 5-6P*/3P; Ref 25; Product CO; CR 6; Y180; Size DBR(4); From 2LR: 7+¶ From DBR: 5+¶; For DBR: 11+¶; Salv 1.500; Notes: PF Tender; Scout. (5AF:1EW)(2AF:2EW) ADED IN A DIFFERENT SPOT

Orion DWY: Slot F-8 (replaces obsolete carrier group). Factors 3-5pi*/1-3pi; Ref 55; Product CO; CR 5; Y178; Size DW(4); From DW: 3+¶ From DWS: 2+¶; For DW: 6.5+¶; Salv 0.875; Notes: Light PF Tender with three PFs. Scout, EW=1. See (551.4).

Orion MR; Slot C-1; Factors 7-6/3; Ref 21; Product CO; CR 5; Y168; Size MR(3); From CR: 1; For CR: 7; salv 1.750; Notes: Base Hull. Heavy variant of CR. Depot as CR.

Orion HBR; Slot C-8; Factors 8-7/4; Ref 56; Product CO; CR 6; Y179; Size BR(3); From BR: 1; For BR: 5.5; salv 1.250; Notes: Base Hull. Heavy variant of BR. Depot as BR.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Monday, June 03, 2024 - 02:50 pm: Edit

B12 THUNDERHAWK changed from D? to R(equired)

D12 corrected to SPT

GHT not possible at this time.

SPR added

PCR space reserved but factors given do not make sense. PC hulls are not 7 defense.

FTL added

Pack factors added but power pack is probably not 8H.

K4C added.

SCS removed, space reserved on VULKAN

DBP added,
DWY added
MR added
HBR added

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Wednesday, June 05, 2024 - 06:02 am: Edit

ADDED, SEE ADDED TO VULKAN.

Suggest:

Add Romulan KRG to KILO at slot B-16; Factors 2-8GG/1-4G. Replaces SEE, but FEDS has already requested that an SEE be added to the Vulkan sheet.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Tuesday, June 11, 2024 - 01:21 pm: Edit

UPDATED (SUPPOSEDLY FINAL) KILO FRONT

Filled all the empties, rearranged some to make things easier for me later, here we go. This is all I could get done before doctor time and may be all I get done today.

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Tuesday, June 11, 2024 - 07:52 pm: Edit

KILO A-7: DLMS Factors should read: 10-11(1)*F/5-6() (Note that the DLMK [a combat version] next to it IS CORRECT)
NO SIT DATA, DONE
=
KILO B-7: DLMG Factors should read: 10-11(1)*FG/5-6G()
NO SIT DATA, DONE
=
KILO A-7: DLMP: Just for grins, swap the 'FP' designators to 'PF' as the ship carries PFs - conjecturally.
NOT FUNNY
=
KILO F-7: Orion HDWG: Factors should read: 6-7G(1)/3-4G()
DONE
KILO I-6/7, J-6/7 Hydran Fighters: suggest 2 flips to 1; 6 flips to 3; 8 flips to 4; 10 flips to 5.
2 FLIPS TO 7, 6 FLIPS TO 4, 8 FLIPS TO 3, 10 FLIPS TO 6.
KILO A-19: K5G Factors should read: 3-5G/1-3
SIT SAYS 2, NO CHANGE
KILO A-20: BHG Factors should read: 2-5G/1-3
SIT SAYS 3, NO CHANGE
=
KILO D-2: Counter should read 'LTT' as this conjectural/campaign ship is a 'true' F&E LTT. Factors should read: LTT 5-7/2-4 (no 'L' required). The SIT entry should read LTT (SPT) with note stating True LTT; see (516.0), conjectural/campaign.

(526.0) The type of ship known as a “Light Tactical Transport” is essentially a small tug built on a war cruiser hull. All ships of this type are designated LTT on their F&E counter to simplify recognition. Some designations are different in Star Fleet Battles, although most are designated LTT even there.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Wednesday, June 12, 2024 - 04:22 pm: Edit

E2 AND E8
BRP and BPF
SIT says these are the same ship. Do we need two of them? Is one of them a mistake for something else?


FEDS: KILO E-8 is a duplicate: Suggest at E-8 replace with: CVH: 6-7(8H)/3-4(4H); Ref 16; This is a Heavy Fighter replacement version of the CVS under (530.222).

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Wednesday, June 12, 2024 - 04:46 pm: Edit

Revised KILO FRONT

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Wednesday, June 12, 2024 - 04:46 pm: Edit

New! KILO BACK!!!
first time anywhere!

By Patrick Sledge (Decius) on Wednesday, June 12, 2024 - 11:28 pm: Edit

DONE, THANKS

Position H20 (Back) - Hydran AH is showing uncrippled factors on the back, rather than crippled. Shows 3-4, should be 2 per SIT.

By Patrick Sledge (Decius) on Thursday, June 13, 2024 - 03:35 pm: Edit

DONE
Position J10(Back) - Klingon JAVC is showing the uncrippled fighter factors on the crippled side of the counter. Shows 6, should be 3.

Position J9(Back) - Klingon JAV is showing the uncrippled fighter factors on the crippled side of the counter. Shows 12, should be 6.

Position J8(Back) - Klingon HAV is showing the uncrippled fighter factors on the crippled side of the counter. Shows 12, should be 6.

By Gary Carney (Nerroth) on Thursday, June 13, 2024 - 03:36 pm: Edit

DONE
Kilo D-12: The SparrowHawk-T counter was re-designated as the "LTT" - on the front of the counter, at least. The back of the counter still marks it as the "SPT".

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Thursday, June 13, 2024 - 04:11 pm: Edit

DONE
FEDS Recommendation:

KILO F-20: PCR: Add 'U' factor to front side as this ship can also serve a theater transport; see Tholian MSSB pg 14, (R7.18) which states:

"The repair ship can carry one pod (instead of a pack) as cargo only (not a functioning pod). This can be a Federation cargo pod (R7.36), civilian cargo pod (R1.34), a mobile base (R1.24) pod, two base augmentation modules (R1.4), two small ground bases (R1.14)..."

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Friday, June 14, 2024 - 06:15 am: Edit

DONE

KILO HEAVY/JUMBO CARRIER AUX REPORT (HAV/JAV/JAVC)

ALL EMPIRES (Fed/Romulan/Tholian/Kzinti/Gorn/Lyran/Klingon)
(EXCEPT HYDRAN)

HAV: Front combat factors match Sheet-80 of 6-8(12); crippled factors match Sheet 80 except: Klingon @ J-8; change fighters to read 6 not 12.
HAV Final Factors should read 6-8(12)/3-4(6) per Sheet-80.

JAV: Front combat factors match Sheet-80 of 4-6(12); crippled factors match Sheet 80 except: Klingon @ J-9; change fighters to read 6 not 12.
JAV Final Factors should read 4-6(12)/2-3(6) per Sheet-80.

JAVC: Not on Sheet-80 but combat factors correlate with those of Sheet-80 and no FTJC on the SITs so an interpolation is required. Thus, the JAV, with a rating of 4-6(12) (see above), it loses one carrier pod [0-2(6)] and adds a combat support pod [2-2] that results in a JAVC of 6(6)/3(3). The 6-6 factors should be changed to simply read 6; crippled factors should read 3(3) not 3-3(3); correct the crippled Klingon fighters on the JAVC @ J-10 to read 3 not 6.
Locations: B-10/J-10/L-10/N-10/F-14/F-17/N-20
JAVC Final Factors should read 6(6)/3(3).

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HYDRAN (HAV/JAV/JAVC)

J-18: HAV: Correct all factors to match SHEET-80 to 4-8(14); crippled factors should read 2-4(7) to match Sheet-80.
Final Factors should read for the Hydran HAV: 4-8(14)/2-4(7) per Sheet-80.

J-19: JAV: Correct AF to match SHEET-80 to 3 not 4; crippled AF should read 1 not 2 to match Sheet-80.
Final Factors should read for the Hydran JAV: 3-8(13)/1-3(6^) per Sheet-80.

J-20: JAVC: NOT on Sheet-80 but combat factors DO NOT correlate with those of Sheet-80 JAV. The 6-6(8) factors should be changed to simply read 4-6(8); crippled factors should read 2-3(4).
Rationale: A 0-2(6) carrier pod is removed from JAV and a second 1-2(1) combat support pod is added to make a JAVC.
Final Factors should read for the Hydran JAVC: 4-6(8)/2-3(4) .

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By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Friday, June 14, 2024 - 07:16 pm: Edit

DONE

KILO HEAVY/JUMBO TROOP AUX REPORT (FTH/FTJ/FTJC)

ALL EMPIRES (Fed/Romulan/Tholian/Kzinti/Gorn/Lyran/Klingon)
(EXCEPT HYDRAN)

FTH: There are no FTH/FTJ/FTJC counters for any of the above empires on Sheet-80, so this report will use the SITs data as directed.

All FTH (except Hydran): Correct AF to read 5 not 3 to match SITs; correct crippled AF to read 3 not 1 to match SITs.
Locations: A-8/I-8/K-8/M-8/E-15/E-12(Black lettering)/M-18
FTH Final Factors should read 5-8GGGG/3-4GG per SITs.
(An argument could be made to round-down the crippled AF to 2 (from 3) to match the pattern of the other troop ships below).

All FTJ (except Hydran): Correct AF to read 3 not 2 to match SITs; correct crippled factors match SITs.
Locations: A-9/I-9/K-9/M-9/E-16/E-13(Black lettering)/M-19
FTJ Final Factors should read 3-6GGGG/1-3GG per SITs.

J-20: FTJC: Combat factors DO NOT correlate with those of the FTJ. The factors should reflect the removal of a troop pod (0-2GG) and the addition of a second combat support pod (2-2). Thus, the FTJ, with a SIT rating of 3-6GG, loses one troop pod (0-2GG) and adds a combat support pod (2-2) that results in a FTJC of 5-6GG/2-3G. Recommend correcting the SITs to reflect these most accurate factors.

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HYDRANS

There are no FTH/FTJ/FTJC counters for Hydrans on Sheet-80, so this report will use the SITs data as directed.

Hydran FTH @ I-18: AF/DF factors match the SITs but the SITs fails to report two fighter factors on the front; recommend correcting counter factors and SITs to report 2 uncrippled fighter factors (and one crippled factor).
Hydran FTH Final Factors should read 3-8(2)GGGG/1-4(1)GG

Hydran FTJ @ I-19: AF/DF factors match the SITs but the SITs fails to report the one fighter factor on the front; recommend correcting SITs to report 1 uncrippled fighter factors (and a half crippled factor). ADD a half fighter factor (^) to the crippled side.
Hydran FTJ Final Factors should read 2-6(1)GGGG/1-3(^)GG

Hydran FTJC @ I-20: These is no FTJC on the Hydran SITs so an interpolation is required. Thus, the FTJ, with a rating of 2-6(1)GGGG (see above), it loses one troop pod (0-2GG) and adds a Hydran combat support pod [(1-2(1)] that results in a Hydran FTJC of 3-6(2)GG/1-6(1)G

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Saturday, June 15, 2024 - 04:56 am: Edit

DONE
Orion DWY @ F-8: The correct defensive factor for Orion DWs to 5 not 6; the uncrippled side requires NO CHANGE.

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Saturday, June 15, 2024 - 05:08 am: Edit

TRIED TO REDUCE WORK, TAKEN CARE OF, PACK NOT Pk PREFERRED

KILO: Tholian Packs: E-18/19/20 & F-19: The reverse side of pods/pallet/pack counters should simply have large, bold font letters "REPAIR PACK" like those on the back side of sheet P&Q 2021; the practice didn't include the 'crippled bar'. (F-20 is in error and is reported below.) FEDS further recommends the that the designation should read T-Pk; B-Pk; R-Pk, P-Pk, and HFR-Pk. Rationale: It makes the identification of these counters easier and differentiates them from ship counters.

KILO: Tholian PCR @ F-20: The reverse side of this ship should read 'PCR' with a crippled compot of 2 and not 'REPAIR PACK".

KILO: Tholian HFR @ F-18: Designation should be HFR-Pk as the is a Tholian pack.

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Saturday, June 15, 2024 - 06:02 am: Edit

DONE

KILO C-20: HDWG: Crippled side: ADD missing "G" factor and half-fighter factor triangle (^).

KILO A-7: DLMS: Crippled side: ADD missing half-fighter factor triangle (^).

KILO B-6: DLMG: REMOVE scout diamond; Crippled side: ADD missing "G" factor).

KILO C-20: DLMP: ADD missing fighter factor (1) on fronts; Crippled side: ADD missing half-fighter factor triangle (^).

KILO C-20: DLMK: Crippled side: The compot is simply "6" not 5-6 on the 'K' combat mode of the DLM.

KILO L-20: BS: Add fighter factors (6)/(3) this one base station as the BS and BS(6) are the most common types encountered in the pre-GW era.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Thursday, June 13, 2024 - 03:09 pm: Edit

Orion bases at E6 and F6
These show factors 5-10, but the SIT has 6-10. I am not sure what the original counters had, if there were any Orion bases at all. Did I just typo the old countersheet when I rebuilt it? Or did I typo a new counter?

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Saturday, June 15, 2024 - 03:06 pm: Edit

UP TO DATE

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Saturday, June 15, 2024 - 03:11 pm: Edit

NEW KILO

By Lawrence Bergen (Lar) on Saturday, June 15, 2024 - 10:50 pm: Edit

I have been mulling over a little conundrum on this sheet as it is now full and in business you always want to bring solutions to your leaders (or at least some options).

Here is the issue:
We are introducing a Romulan Kestral version of a ship (Rom K4C) but not the original Klingon E4C. I was positive we had discussed it as an add but it’s not here or on SIERRA or VULKAN.

In terms of ship availability to the game the rule of leader substitution is for every 5th hull (variants included) a leader variant ‘earned’ can be subbed free. Players could also for a cost build additional leaders.

Specifically for the E4 these ships are on the schedule in groups of 3 for the first 6 turns of the General war (then one E4 per turn after that) meaning at a minimum 3 of these E4C’s will be 'earned' as a possible build. Meaning if introduced we should have at least 4 available with an initial product purchase.

So what to do…
KILO and VULKAN are presented as two sheets in their respective products (CO and FO) so would need 2xE4C on the page and it will be hard enough to get one on.

SIERRA has 4 sheets in the SO product so would need only one to hit the minimum.

Simple replacement maybe possible.
There is a single E4S on KILO and SIERRA (total of 6 when a customer buys one of each product). (Kilo would be the option here as players do need more E4S)
There are 4 F5Ws on KILO plus 2 3xF5W counters (total of 20 when a player buys on copy of CO.
FEDS: Since ADB ruled out the the partial replacement of BLACK/GREEN (below), this would be the best option presented.

A much more risky and difficult option (in terms of color drift and SVC time / effort) but a much more positive impact on the player set would be to break the Green color block on KILO.
Why? what I do see is there is an extra Hydran MHK was placed as a filler) and ‘technically’ an extra fighter marker (FO provides a ton of them on G+G).

There are other options that are more complex and involve shifting and swapping but that would be a longer and more explicit email to the boss. And this post is too long already.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Sunday, June 16, 2024 - 12:21 am: Edit

The "more risky option" is not one I am willing to take.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Sunday, June 16, 2024 - 12:22 am: Edit

IJ-16/17 need to align left, not center.

By Lawrence Bergen (Lar) on Sunday, June 16, 2024 - 12:49 am: Edit

No block breaks. Got it. Will take another look.

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Sunday, June 16, 2024 - 04:15 am: Edit

QC check: It appears that some characters inside the crippled bars are not centered within the bars.

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Sunday, June 16, 2024 - 04:18 am: Edit

E-20 the 'U' character in the R-Pk needs to be removed and added to the PCR in location F-20.

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Sunday, June 16, 2024 - 02:41 pm: Edit

Observation:

Hydran AH: there are a total of 30 in the game system (Basic A&B: 18; FO I&J: 6; CO KILO: 2 [up from 1]).
Hydran MHK: CO-2004 had 3 total, but now we added one to KILO and are doubling the sheets for a total of 8.


Option:

If the intent is the get two E4Cs on KILO, then one way to do so is to drop ONE AH (now 28) and ONE MHK (now 6) each.
Then, add TWO E4Cs (total 4 in CO) and convert TWO fighter coins to BLACK.
(Additionally, we could choose to drop the E4S from KILO as there is one already one on SIERRA (four in the box) and adding a third E4C on KILO for a total of SIX in the CO box.)

Proposed sheet would have a BLACK/GREEN color transition over between the fighter coins and would look like this:

E4C	FTR	FTR
E4C	FTR	FTR

FEDS: Withdrawn.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Sunday, June 16, 2024 - 11:07 pm: Edit

I am not going to put black counters in the green bar.

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Monday, June 17, 2024 - 05:51 am: Edit

All scout diamonds on the crippled side of the sheet can be deleted; EXCEPTION: KEEP ALL crippled BASE diamonds.

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Monday, June 17, 2024 - 06:02 am: Edit

H-8: B10A: add two SFG 'dots' after the designator; there are no dots on the crippled side as SFGs don't function on crippled units per (312.263).

H-9: SBA: add two SFG 'dots' after the designator; there are no dots on the crippled side as SFGs don't function on crippled bases per (312.125): remove "A" factor from CRIPPLED side bar but add scout diamond.

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Monday, June 17, 2024 - 06:07 am: Edit

D-12: LTT: suggested CRIPPLED compot: 2-4.

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Monday, June 17, 2024 - 06:32 am: Edit

I-19: FTJ: add missing CRIPPLED triangle fighter factor (^).
I-18: FTH: add missing CRIPPLED fighter factor (1).
I/J-15: DWS: FTJ: add missing CRIPPLED triangle fighter factor (^) to both DWSs.
H-17/18/19: IRQ: add missing CRIPPLED triangle fighter factor (^) to all IRQs.

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Monday, June 17, 2024 - 06:47 am: Edit

ALL JAVC (except Hydran): all CRIPPLED 3-3 factors can be simplified to a single '3'.
GIVE COORDINATES TO EACH ONE FOR POSITIVE CONTROL.

J-18: HAV: CRIPPLED compot should be 2-4.
J-20: JAVC: CRIPPLED compot should be 2-3.

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Monday, June 17, 2024 - 06:59 am: Edit

ALL FTH (except Hydran): all CRIPPLED factors should be 2-4.
GIVE COORDINATES FOR EACH ONE FOR POSITIVE CONTROL.

I-20: FTJC: CRIPPLED factors should be 1-3.

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Monday, June 17, 2024 - 07:03 am: Edit

STAFF:

When ADB posts the next sheet, please QC the AUX factors VERY CAREFULLY (remember that the Hydrans WILL differ).

Thanks

By Lawrence Bergen (Lar) on Monday, June 17, 2024 - 11:20 am: Edit

I am back from my weekend event and I had a chance to review.

The E4C (missing from this sheet) will need minimum of 3 units available in the product to match the leader rule production of the first six turns of the general war.

KILO will be provided as two sheets in Combined Operations.

Suggest:
Replace the F5W at location J-6 with an E4C. FACTORS: 5-4/2
Replace the E4S at location H-10 with an E4C. FACTORS: 5-4/2

Benefit / Impact to product/players from the previous version of CO:
++ Players would receive 4 E4C to go along with the 2 Rom K4C added to this new sheet. (+4 E4C, +2 K4C)
++ Replacing 1 F5W: Because of the double sheet Players would receive 18 F5W instead of 13 F5W in the previous product. (+5 F5W)
-0- Replacing the E4S: Players would receive 0 E4S instead of 0 E4S in the previous CO product. (No benefit)
NOTE: Since ADB approved adding a SIERRA sheet to SO product the players are getting one extra E4S. (+1 E4S elsewhere)

Chuck please verify the E4C factors in the above line items.
FEDS CONFIRMS.

By Patrick Sledge (Decius) on Monday, June 17, 2024 - 10:28 pm: Edit

DONE, SHOULD THE T BE REMOVED FROM E11?
FEDS: YES.

D11 (Back) - Romulan GHG is showing its uncrippled factors on the crippled side. Currently 7GG, expected 4G.

E11 (Back) - Romulan GHH is showing its uncrippled factors on the crippled side. Currently 6-7T, expected 3-4.

F11 (Back) - Romulan GHE is showing its uncrippled factors on the crippled side. Currently 6-7P, expected 3-4P.

FEDS CONCURS with all above.

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Tuesday, June 18, 2024 - 01:28 am: Edit

Just a memo for record for the staff and adjuncts:

Crippled transports lose the "T" and "U" ratings if they are crippled:
"(509.1-I) Tug Under Repair: This is the automatic setting for a crippled tug, LTT, or theater transport. It cannot perform any mission..."

Crippled SFG units lose the stasis "A" rating if they are crippled:
"(312.125) If half or more of the SIDS (308.82) required to destroy an SFG base have been scored, it cannot use its SFG. If the base has two SFGs, the second SFG becomes non-functional when the SFG base is crippled."
"(312.263) An SFG unit cannot use its SFG if it is crippled..."

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Tuesday, June 18, 2024 - 01:34 am: Edit

E-20: R-Pk: The 'U' character in the R-Pk needs to be removed and added to the PCR in location F-20. THIS WAS DONE EARLIER

KILO: All Tholian Packs: FEDS recommends that the FRONT designations should read T-Pk; B-Pk; R-Pk, P-Pk, and HFR-Pk. Rationale: It makes the identification of these counters easier and differentiates them from ship counters as ships counters do not hyphenate the designations; we have done this in the past the with the T-Pods and A-Pods on Sheet-M. FEDS apologizes for the previous posting which ADB thought I was referring to the back-side of the counters. THIS WAS DONE EARLIER.

IN BOTH CASES I SAID SO AT THE TIME.

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Tuesday, June 18, 2024 - 03:09 am: Edit

KILO C-13: SPR: Remove CRIPPLED side "R" designator. C13 IS AN SEC.

KILO G-20: PGZ: CORRECT CRIPPLED side compot to read 0-4 per H-SIT.

KILO E-7: Orion BRG: Add "G" to CRIPPLED side. as this is a war cruiser equivalent; BPs and GAS shuttles exceed those of the D5G.

KILO E-4: PFT: REMOVED scout diamond from CRIPPLED side.

KILO E-2: BPF: REMOVED scout diamond from CRIPPLED side.

KILO H-9: SBA: REMOVE the "A" designator from the CRIPPLED bar; ADD scout diamond.

KILO M-7: LSC: CORRECT the CRIPPLED compot to read 0-4.

KILO I-16/17 & J-17 Fighter Coins:
SUGGEST converting the 4/2 to 2/1.
SUGGEST converting the 12/6 to 6/3.
SUGGEST converting the 12/6 to 24/12.
KEEP 18/9.
Rationale: Module CO sheet will come with TWO set of KILO sheets. With just one set of these four total coins, one can create change for counts of 1-50 fighter factors and with two sets (eight coins) can create change for counts of 1-100+ fighter factors.

THE REST WERE DONE