By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Sunday, July 24, 2022 - 01:48 pm: Edit |
Sometime in the Spring or Summer of 2023 we will have to reprint sheet Indigo. It was last printed in 2011 and included in ISC WAR. This was a new format sheet with 280 counters so I presume it is just fine as is. Let me know if you have any thoughts.
By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Tuesday, July 26, 2022 - 11:39 am: Edit |
I found that the copy in the file (and the backup) were corrupted and did the sheet over. Make sure no errors crept in please.
By Alex Chobot (Alendrel) on Tuesday, July 26, 2022 - 05:47 pm: Edit |
INDIGO: Position J15 - Shown as LHF, which is not on the ISC SIT. SFB (R13.93) designation is P-LHF. Recommend updating SIT entry to LHF.
FEDS: NO CORRECTION NEEDED. SIT is wrong. ISC SIT LHP should read LHF.
Ryan: Please add this note to SITs update.
INDIGO: Position M17 - BS is missing PPD mark. (SVC: Did not have PPD mark on original printing.)
FEDS: NO CORRECTION NEEDED. Sheet space limitation. BSs without PPDs in the post-GW era would be very uncommon but this counter is needed more in the earlier era scenarios.
INDIGO: Position N5 - HDWT is missing "U" factor. (SVC: Did not have PPD mark on original printing.)
FEDS: NO CORRECTION NEEDED; confirms that HDWTs DO NOT have a "U" factor.
INDIGO: Position N15 - Counter is PSTX, designation in SIT is PTX. Recommend updating SIT entry to PSTX.
FEDS CONCURS.
Ryan: Please add this note to SITs update.
INDIGO: Position N17 - BSX is missing PPD mark. Combat factor shown as 15 but listed in SIT as 16. Other empires' BSX have a factor of 16, counter should be updated to 16.
FEDS: CONCURS BSX compot should be 16.
By Lawrence Bergen (Lar) on Tuesday, July 26, 2022 - 09:03 pm: Edit |
Alex fairly certain the HDWT's do not get the U factor.
By Alex Chobot (Alendrel) on Tuesday, July 26, 2022 - 11:16 pm: Edit |
I was just checking against the SIT and it has it there.
By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Wednesday, July 27, 2022 - 12:25 am: Edit |
That might be a SIT error as the HDWT on the original printing did not have a U, and I don't remember any HDWTs with a U. But I have been wrong before.
FEDS: CONCURS with ADB; HDWTs do not have "U" factors. SIT is wrong.
By Lawrence Bergen (Lar) on Wednesday, July 27, 2022 - 12:46 am: Edit |
By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Friday, June 10, 2022 - 04:05 pm: Edit
Revised text (539.72) CARRYING PODs: Most Theater Transports (TT) (those with a “U” in the special functions spot on the counter) can carry a single pod or pallet, but none of them can use it (not even to transport EPs or supplies). This could be done to move (for example) a battle pod out of an isolated supply grid and into the main supply grid without using a tug or LTT. A theater transport carrying a heavy pod is considered “overloaded” (517.44).
The Federation DWT and all HDWTs cannot carry a pod, pallet, module, PDU/PGB/IDU, or MB, and as such do not have a “U” on the counter; these units can still perform any other TT mission as permitted under (509.1). The Tholian FCR and CPC are theater transports (and the 3CPC counter functions as a tug).
Three theater transports (with a “U”), working together, can move a mobile base; installing it defers to (509.23) and would take three TTs one turn or one TT three turns. A theater transport (with a “U”) can carry (and deploy) one PDU/PGB/IDU or one base module.
By Alex Chobot (Alendrel) on Wednesday, July 27, 2022 - 11:38 am: Edit |
In that case, disregard my report on counter N5 and instead the SIT for the HDWT should have the U factor deleted. Thanks for the info!
By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Monday, May 13, 2024 - 03:35 pm: Edit |
This project got lost in one or more of the medical crises but is back on my front burner. I need any further reports ASAP. Chuck, if you sent me a consolidated report before, please send it again.
By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Tuesday, May 14, 2024 - 03:27 am: Edit |
If anyone knows if there are ISC counter error on Sheet INDIGO not reported above; please post them HERE (SOONEST)!
By Patrick Sledge (Decius) on Tuesday, May 14, 2024 - 02:59 pm: Edit |
INDIGO: Position H16 - 3DDX shows ComPot of 18. DDX is 9 ComPot, 3DDX should be 27.
FEDS: CONCURS: 3DDX compot should read 27/15.
By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Wednesday, May 15, 2024 - 01:53 am: Edit |
INDIGO: N2 HDWR: The more correct fighter compot format should read: 1 [6] . FEDS 14 MAY 2024
INDIGO: N17 BSX: Recommend including the PPD 'dot'• as PPDs are almost always going to be on X-bases. There is no 'dot' on the crippled side. FEDS 14 MAY 2024
By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Wednesday, May 15, 2024 - 01:28 pm: Edit |
Tell me which counters need dots and on which side/s. Telling me "add dots to any counter that should have one and doesn't" is telling me to check all 560 counters when I thought you guys were supporting the project, not giving me things to check. Tell me to change a counter and I will. Give me some vague idea that some undefined counter needs some kind of correction is about like telling Joe Biden to "bomb the appropriate country" which might not end well.
By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Saturday, May 18, 2024 - 02:59 am: Edit |
Sheet INDIGO Front; BSX; Position N17; Recommend including a PPD 'dot'; factors to read: 16(6)•*; additionally there is also a typo as the correct compot is 16 and NOT 15 (per ISC SIT). (The crippled side requires no correction.) Rationale: X-Base Stations of the post-GW, X-era are most likely going to have PPDs. FEDS - 18 May 2024
• = PPD Symbol
* = Scout diamond Symbol
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General Note: The posted INDIGO sheet (above) was cross-checked to confirm that PPD symbols ( • ) are accurate; no other corrections required. FEDS - 18 May 2024
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Sheet INDIGO Front; HDWR; Position N2; The more correct fighter compot format should read: 1 [6] . FEDS 18 MAY 2024
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I apologize for not being clear and the confusion I caused.
By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Monday, June 03, 2024 - 02:24 pm: Edit |
N17 corrected to 16; PPD dot added.
H16 corrected to 27.
N2 is not an HDWR.
N3 changed to 1[6]
NO OTHER CHANGES WERE CALLED FOR.
ALL CALLED FOR CHANGES WERE MADE.
LET ME KNOW IF ANYTHING ELSE COMES UP.
By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Monday, June 03, 2024 - 07:56 pm: Edit |
Thank Steve. Just hit us with the updated sheet when you have time so that we can make last calls for corrections.
By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Monday, June 03, 2024 - 10:27 pm: Edit |
There were only four changes, easy for you to track. The time for me to export a JPG and resize it and post it might be better used elsewhere.
By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Tuesday, June 25, 2024 - 03:34 pm: Edit |
Well, fooey. I just found that I never did a new back for this sheet. That will take all day and I'm leaving for a doctor appointment and won't get to it today.
By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Tuesday, June 25, 2024 - 03:36 pm: Edit |
FINAL INDIGO FRONT
By Gary Carney (Nerroth) on Tuesday, June 25, 2024 - 04:35 pm: Edit |
Apologies in advance for leaving this so late to mention:
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Over in the Countersheet Sierra thread, one of the advantages of moving to the "new" 280 counter format has been the ability to use up a number of the added white counter slots to offer a range of Middle Years Gorn counters. (The Gorn DNE was already provided in F&E Tactical Operations.)
Hopefully, those counters might one day be useful in order to fight cross-border conflicts with their Middle Years counterparts among the "Shadow of the Eagle" Romulans from Module R4J, and/or the "Mapsheet P" Paravians previewed for F&E in Captain's Log #48.
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While there is an ISC DNE on the above countersheet, it is also possible (in principle, at least) to work up Middle Years ISC ships - a "CA-", a "CL-", etc. - which themselves could one day be used to fight on "Mapsheet P" alongside their Gorn allies.
However, since there is no change to the overall number of counters on Countersheet Indigo, my assumption had been that:
A - any other would-be Middle Years ISC counters would have to be swapped in for pre-existing counters (a "CA-" for a CA, for example),
and B - there'd have to be a very good justification to argue why the ISC would not make use of all of the General War/Pacification-era ships currently provided on Countersheet Indigo.
For these reasons, I have been wary of asking for Middle Years ISC units to be considered here. Better, it would seem, to wait until (or unless) a brand new countersheet is opened up on which such units might be considered for.
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That said, if only for the sake of completeness, I feel obligated to ask:
With 5 Indigo countersheets per copy of ISC War, does the Concordium need each sheet to remain as-is, so as to have enough units to undertake the Pacification Campaign? Or are there enough "spare" counters provided so as to allow the odd Middle Years variant to be accounted for here or there?
To clarify, if the Middle Years ships are best kept aside for now, I'm quite fine with this; I'm more than happy to wait. That said, if there is to be a future thread for some brand new "ISC-inclusive" countersheet someday, at least one then need not ask why they hadn't been mentioned back during the 2024 Indigo reprint thread...
By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Tuesday, June 25, 2024 - 05:22 pm: Edit |
I don't think that would be a good idea.
By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Wednesday, June 26, 2024 - 10:17 pm: Edit |
I got half of the back side of INDIGO done today.
By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Thursday, June 27, 2024 - 02:53 pm: Edit |
I will leave the early years ship question to Chuck. If he thinks we could squeeze it in, okay, but I fear we need far more counters than anyone realizes and if you don't do them all why do any?
By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Thursday, June 27, 2024 - 02:54 pm: Edit |
By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Thursday, June 27, 2024 - 02:56 pm: Edit |
FINAL INDIGO
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