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In what product will combat with the WYN Star cluster be introduced? Is there any tentative release date, yet?

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FEDS ANSWER: Unless ADB decides otherwise, the WYN are planned to be in Civil Wars. To the best of my knowledge, ADB has not yet scheduled a release date.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Saturday, August 17, 2019 - 04:57 pm: Edit

Correct, no release date, but it's something on the active list for the next product selected (tactical operations, auxiliary operations, Civil Wars, and I think there may be another one, or not).

We have printed the single-sided counters for CW so the WYN will be in it.

By Gary Carney (Nerroth) on Monday, November 29, 2021 - 02:52 pm: Edit

This is something which came up in a thread elsewhere on the BBS, but was something I wanted to ask if it was in the process of being addressed in the forthcoming Civil Wars rulebook.

Historically, the Orion shipyard in the Freeholm system was constructed by the Orion Cluster Cartel in Y160. Between then and Fall Y181 (when the WYNs seized control of the yard, triggering the brief WYN-Orion War), the Orions retained ownership of the yard, though they assigned a portion of its production capacity to suit the needs of the WYN Navy.

By the time the "post-Usurper" WYNs welcomed the Cluster Cartel's Crimelord back to the ruling council in Spring Y187, the yard was once again producing "true" Orion Pirate ship designs. However, so far as I am aware, the question of ownership over the yard from this point onwards has not yet been made clear.

My question is this: has it been decided what kind of production capacity this yard had at various points in time, regardless of who happened to be owning it at one point or another?

Or to put it another way, if the yard had A number of slipways at the time of its initial construction, would this be the sum total of berths the yard would possess thereafter? Or would the WYNs (and/or the Orions) have added B (or C) number of slipways to the yard at various points in time?


In this product, such knowledge might help demonstrate how much the Usurper had to gain, in terms of increased "fish ship" production in the run-up to the War of Return. But in the longer run, it might also be possible to work out a production schedule for the Cluster Cartel itself, should a future product benefit from an "order of battle" for this, er, cluster of Orion Pirates.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Monday, November 29, 2021 - 03:51 pm: Edit

This will be dealt with when it needs to be, and now is not the time. Gary, the day before my surgery and a month out of the office is a bad time to suddenly start three discussions on esoteric future products. Leave the rest of your ideas for next year and even them email me first. You're trying to embarrass me into working 48 hours a day to get all the products you want done right now, and the laws of physics say you aren't going to get your wish.

By John Christiansen (Roscoehatfield) on Friday, December 03, 2021 - 02:52 pm: Edit

FEDS, sorry for the delayed thanks for an answer to a question. When the question was moved here, it was lost to me for a while.

By John Christiansen (Roscoehatfield) on Friday, December 03, 2021 - 02:58 pm: Edit

I'm looking at (634.0) and thinking of some questions I have in general about the WYN Cluster in F&E. I expect these will be addressed in Civil Wars or some other publication. They don't need to be handled now, but it may be worth discussing.

How is Salvage (439.0) handled? I would think it will be handled not too differently than (439.15) WEBS.

Does the WYN navy have a greater chance of capturing enemy ships due to the possibility of their being (P7.93) Zone Crippled from the SFB rules? Any destroyed invading ship which otherwise qualifies for (424.0) DEPOT-LEVEL REPAIRS is probably Zone Crippled and cannot leave the Cluster, possibly increasing its chances of being captured. Rule (424.37) DISALLOWED would minimize the WYN player's ability to capture large ships.

How would combat inside the Cluster be handled should the Cluster be conquered by one of its neighboring empires and another neighboring empire tried to take it away? I would expect that any bordering empire which expends the ships necessary to conquer the Cluster would be vulnerable to both its home territory being attacked and the newly defanged Cluster being attacked. This Cluster defense by the new owners could involve units moved by both reaction and reserve movements into the Cluster. Would defending units moved into the Cluster be available for combat without their being crippled for the first battle round? I imagine that a bordering empire's conquering the Cluster would entice another bordering empire to try to take it away ASAP before the first/most recent victors could reinforce its defenses.

Does the WYN radiation shell affect Reaction Movement in any way?

Being that the Cluster is the most resource rich hex on the F&E map, is 15 EPs a sufficient return on investment for conquering it?

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Tuesday, February 22, 2022 - 03:53 am: Edit

WYN SIT CWP: Recommend changing to EW=3. Rationale:

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Quote:

(R12.25) ORCA-P PF TENDER: The WYNs built their PFT on an Orca hull, rather than the smaller Mako, because of the need for range and spaceworthiness. This PFT was very unusual, in that it had four sensors, excess power, and a huge repair bay. This reflected that it would be the only source of PF repairs and the only heavy scout in the WYN Return Fleet.

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By Jason E. Schaff (Jschaff297061) on Tuesday, February 22, 2022 - 05:32 pm: Edit

Concur with the above recommendation based on SSD comparison.

WYN PFT is 4 sensors and 32 power
Klingon D5S is 4 sensors and 31 power
Fed NSC is 4 sensors and 32 power
Kzinti MSC is 3 sensors with 30 power

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Tuesday, February 22, 2022 - 07:19 pm: Edit

WYN PFT = concur

By Benjamin Lee Johnson (Jedipilot24) on Sunday, December 03, 2023 - 02:39 pm: Edit

In the Cloudburst scenario (CL28) the Orion Enclave uses the WYN shipyard, with the following schedule:
Spring Turns: CA, BR, DW, LR, SLV
Fall Turns: CR, BR, SAL, 2xDW

This is probably not the full capacity of the shipyard, but it's something to start from.