An old Owen Riley idea, a sheet of bases constructed so that two or three copies replace all the bases printed on the map.

Lyrans: 5 SB, 9 BATS
Hydrans: 5 SB, 9 BATS
Klingons: 6 SB, 26 BATS
Kzintis: 5 SB, 10 BATs
Feds: 12 SB, 32 BATS
Orion: 1 BATS
LDR: 2 BATS
Gorn: 6 SBs, 17 BATS
Romulan: 7 SBs, 25 BATS
That adds up to 177.

Include some operational bases and mobile bases and it could easily fill up 216 counters. or, just do SBs and BATs but include the ISC ones.

By Richard Abbott (Catwhoorg) on Monday, March 08, 2004 - 06:08 pm: Edit

SVC:

Counters for "undeployed" Mobile bases so they are distinct could be useful.

By Craig Tenhoff (Cktenhoff) on Monday, March 08, 2004 - 06:26 pm: Edit

LDR included BATS at Minor Planet. Recommend adding 1 LDR BATS. C. Tenhoff 3-8-04

Missing Tholians. Recommend adding Tholians: 3 SB, 5 BATS.

C. Tenhoff 3-8-04

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Monday, March 08, 2004 - 08:06 pm: Edit

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By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Monday, March 08, 2004 - 08:50 pm: Edit

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By Tim Losberg (Krager) on Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 10:50 am: Edit

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By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 11:13 am: Edit

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By Richard Abbott (Catwhoorg) on Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 11:28 am: Edit

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By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 11:52 am: Edit

I think everything has been said about using or not using base counters and we can focus this topic on getting the list of 216 counters correct.

As an alternative, we can also construct a sheet of 108 counters with 1/3 of the needed bases of all types. Product then includes one and we can have others available by mail order.

Chuck: You are correct. It is just you.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 12:04 pm: Edit

Sheet of 216 bases.

Lyrans: 5 SB, 9 BATS total 14 yellow counters, allocate 18. (1 of 12) Leaves room for 4 spares.

Hydrans: 5 SB, 9 BATS total 14 green counters, allocate 18. (2nd of 12) 4 spares.

Klingons: 6 SB, 26 BATS, total 32 black counters, allocate 36. (3rd and 4th of 12) 4 spares.

Feds: 12 SB, 32 BATS
Orion: 1 BATS
Total 45 blue counters, allocate 54 (5th, 6th, 7th of 12). 9 spares.

Romulan: 7 SBs, 25 BATS
Tholians: 3 SB, 5 BATS.
Total 40 Red counters, allocate 45 (8th, 9th, half of 10th of 12). 5 spares.

Kzintis: 5 SB, 10 BATs
Gorn: 6 SBs, 17 BATS
LDR: 3 BATS
Total 41 white counters, allocate 45 (11th, 12th, half of 10th of 12.) 4 spares.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 01:10 pm: Edit

Sheet of 108 bases. Takes 3 sheets to cover all pre-war bases.

Lyrans: 2 SB, 3 BATS total 5 yellow counters, allocate 9. (1 of 12) 4 spares.

Hydrans: 2 SB, 3 BATS total 5 green counters, allocate 9. (2nd of 12) 4 spares.

Klingons: 2 SB, 9 BATS, total 11 black counters, allocate 18. (3rd and 4th of 12) 7 spares.

Feds: 4 SB, 11 BATS
Orion: 1 BATS
Total 16 blue counters, allocate 27 (5th, 6th, 7th of 12). 11 spares.

Romulan: 3 SBs, 9 BATS
Tholians: 1 SB, 2 BATS.
Total 15 Red counters, allocate 27 (8th, 9th, half of 10th of 12). 12 spares.

Kzintis: 2 SB, 4 BATs
Gorn: 2 SBs, 6 BATS
LDR: 1 BATS
Total 15 white counters, allocate 27 (11th, 12th, half of 10th of 12.) 12 spares.

By Clell Flint (Clell) on Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 02:19 pm: Edit

I like the 108 sheet better because then you could use the 4 yellow spares for ISC and have more ISC bases with a full set (3 sheets) then you get if you do that with the 216 counter set.

By Craig Tenhoff (Cktenhoff) on Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 03:43 pm: Edit

Why not move one of the Red or White Counter allocations on the 108 sheet to yellow and add even more ISC Bases?

This would leave yellow spares for other bases (Operational or Sector?), and still leave spares for everyone else.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 03:50 pm: Edit

Well, because there isn't room to add the ISC?

By Craig Tenhoff (Cktenhoff) on Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 05:07 pm: Edit

What I was suggesting was:


Sheet of 108 bases. Takes 3 sheets to cover all pre-war bases.

Lyrans: 2 SB, 3 BATS
ISC: 3 SB, 8 BATS
Total 16 yellow counters, allocate 18. (1st and 2nd of 12) 2 spares.

Hydrans: 2 SB, 3 BATS total 5 green counters, allocate 9. (3rd of 12) 4 spares.

Klingons: 2 SB, 9 BATS, total 11 black counters, allocate 18. (4th and 5th of 12) 7 spares.

Feds: 4 SB, 11 BATS
Orion: 1 BATS
Total 16 blue counters, allocate 27 (6th, 7th, 8th of 12). 11 spares.

Romulan: 3 SBs, 9 BATS
Tholians: 1 SB, 2 BATS.
Total 15 Red counters, allocate 18 (9th, 10th). 3 spares.

Kzintis: 2 SB, 4 BATs
Gorn: 2 SBs, 6 BATS
LDR: 1 BATS
Total 15 white counters, allocate 18 (11th, 12th). 3 spares.


Note: This corrects the extra 9 counters that SVCs 108 sheet proposed.

Note: If necessary to further increase the ISC BATS, one row of Blue can be changed to Yellow.

By Craig Tenhoff (Cktenhoff) on Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 06:41 pm: Edit

Correction to Yellow:

Lyran: 2 SB, 3 BATS
ISC: 3 SB, 8 BATS
Total 16 yellow counters, allocate 18 (1st and 2nd of 12) 2 spares.

Only 18 ISC BATS are needed to cover printed BATS. However, extras required due to ISC BATS deployment rules. This allocation gives 6 spare BATS. Allocating 9 blues to yellow ISC would give 33 extra (with 3 sheets), while leaving blue 2 spares.

By Scott Tenhoff (Scottt) on Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 07:00 pm: Edit

Spare may be taken up by X-Bases. BSX (X-Base Station, BTX (X-Battle Station), SBX (X Starbase)

By Craig Tenhoff (Cktenhoff) on Saturday, September 25, 2004 - 12:16 pm: Edit

Is the Base Countersheet still in the works for 2005?

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Saturday, September 25, 2004 - 01:42 pm: Edit

No.