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By Scott Tenhoff (Scottt) on Friday, February 27, 2004 - 02:53 pm: Edit

Don't forget a random assortment of Orions that would join them in the defense.

20-40 COMPOT possibly.

By Grant Strong (Phoenix) on Friday, February 27, 2004 - 02:56 pm: Edit

Just curious but should the Kzinti be able to send a reserve to help the Wyn? Also if an attack fails do the Wyn join one side?(or have something like the tholians where if a pdu/base is destroyed the join the opposing side.)

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Friday, February 27, 2004 - 03:18 pm: Edit

Yes, any race can reserve-react into the cluster to help defend it but would be under the same restrictions.

By Douglas E. Lampert (Dlampert) on Friday, February 27, 2004 - 03:33 pm: Edit

Radiation zone effects will be the same for the third battleround as the second.

All zone radiation effects end 10 SFB turns after a ship enters the cluster, anyone who survives one F&E round has been there for more than 10 SFB turns and is clear. I like SVC's initial idea of simply penalizing the newly entered ships as long as the WYN forces are willing to fight away from their planets.

By David Kass (Dkass) on Tuesday, March 02, 2004 - 12:27 am: Edit

My suggestion for the penalty is that the attacking ships are crippled for the first round of combat (and no fighters flying off of carriers). Scouts don't function either. No DB. So until the advent of PFs it is going to be a massacre (the WYN don't need and DD, they just let the damage fall). Ships that survive become uncrippled (and can help fill out the battle line for the next round of combat). All ships fight their first battle as crippled, regardless of what combat round.

I'd suggest the attacker does not get any salvage for the attack.

Ships that are crippled have a 50% of being killed if the force retreats (ships that have not been in combat are not under this penalty).

By Christopher E. Fant (Cfant) on Tuesday, March 02, 2004 - 01:10 am: Edit

Treat any attacker salvage as salvage for the WYN, using Tholian rules. Same basic idea, no badly crippled ship would survive the radiation zone and no freighter could make the trip.

By Douglas E. Lampert (Dlampert) on Tuesday, March 02, 2004 - 12:33 pm: Edit

Crippled for the first round has the minor disadvantage that no attacking ship can be crippled on the first round, they are either unhurt or destroyed. I would prefer a simple x1/3rd defense factor and x1/2 attack, which would have comparable effects. (This reverses SVC's sugested factors.)

Agreed, scouts do not work on the first battleround in the cluster, I do not recall the SFB rules for fighters and PFs in the cluster.

We do not actually need detailed rules for the zone until we have a WYN order of battle and factors for the WYN ships. The zone + defenses need to be enough to make it look possible in Y180 or so, nontrivial prior to that time, and make it possible someone will launch an attack then withdraw.

By Craig Tenhoff (Cktenhoff) on Tuesday, March 02, 2004 - 02:57 pm: Edit

Fighters can't be launched before turn X (10 IIRC) in the Cluster.

PFs operate as Ships in the Cluster.

By David Kass (Dkass) on Tuesday, March 02, 2004 - 05:52 pm: Edit

Douglas, the dead or fine effect is what I was aiming for. My (somewhat limited) WYN experience in SFB indicates either the ships die or they're in fine shape. It all depends on whether or not the WYN concentrate on them while they're zone crippled (damaged ships die very fast since the WYN have significant drone throw weight). There is also a tendency on the attacker's part to push crippled ships into combat since they're dead anyways (they can't survive the zone) to help protect the ships that haven't yet been targeted.

By David Johnson (Djj) on Saturday, March 06, 2004 - 04:58 am: Edit

Is there a complete OOB for the WYN Cluster? If so, where?

By David Lang (Dlang) on Saturday, March 06, 2004 - 03:49 pm: Edit

David J, no OOB for the WYN has been published that I can remember

By Jeremy Gray (Gray) on Saturday, March 06, 2004 - 06:53 pm: Edit

There are some assorted notes about the WYN OOB, but nothing that I could fine that would give you a definative year by year, blow by blow of what they had available.

Some places to look:
- R12.2 in Module C1, gives a run down of ships the WYNs had available in the GW (non-year specific).
- R12.1G-K. Lots of little gems in there. Goes into some detail about unique WYN fish ships. The same goes for the rest of the Fish Ship R sections.

Their are a lot of rather unique ships in the WYN inventory. Only a hand few are really mass production. I can definately see a lot of their ships on a seperate "one-of" countersheet.

By David Kass (Dkass) on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 - 10:57 pm: Edit

My caveat on the ships is that for any of the non-fish ships we may want to provide more counters so that players can "gift" extra ships (some benifit plus making it harder for your opponent to capture the cluster).

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 07:27 pm: Edit

Proposed WYN Cluster Economic Rules

Background:

Quote:

“…it is a capital hex with 8 systems, one with 3 major planets, one with two major planets, and all of them with some minor planets, all of those planets having defenses.”

“The WYN national symbol (that circle thing with the dots) is a map of the cluster.” (Which has 13 planets: 5 Major & 8 Minor based on the quote above. – CS)

“You'd be wrong, however, to assume that a WYN major planet has the same production and population as anybody else's major planet; there aren't that many warm bodies inside the cluster. But you do have plenty of defense brigades.”

“I can't remember the economy of the cluster. I have it somewhere. I think it's 24 but I could be remembering a TV show I need to watch the tapes of. It's certainly not 50. I am pretty sure it's in the 20s. How much is the Tholian capital as the WYN cluster probably isn't that big?” The Tholian economy is 20 EP for the Major + 2 EP for the province = 22 EPs. – CS)
Steve Cole – 25 Feb 2004

(4WE.0) WYN ECONOMICS

The vast riches of the WYN cluster are both impressive and often exaggerated (add colorful introduction text here…)

(4WE.1) Composition: The WYN cluster consists of 13 planets (5 major & 8 minor) in 8 systems. However, due to the limited population of the cluster many of these planets economic resources are not fully utilized.

(4WE.11) At the start of the General War all planets in the cluster were producing at a reduced level and therefore produced economic points at devastated levels (only the capital planet was producing at its maximum). While these planets may be producing at devastated levels, the planets themselves are not actually devastated.

(4WE.12) If the cluster is attacked and subsequently a planet that is producing to a reduced level is actually devastated, it will still produce income at the devastated level and will require the normal four turns to recover from the devastation.

(4WE.13) The WYN Cluster and economy at the start of the General War consist its one hex province and the following systems:

System-1: Capital (5EP) (CapitalName11) & minor (1EP) (PlanetName12); Major (2EP) (PlanetName13), Major (2EP) (PlanetName14)
System-2: Major (2EP) (PlanetName21)& minor (1EP) (PlanetName22); Major (2EP) (PlanetName23)
System-3: Minor (1EP) (PlanetName31)
System-4: Minor (1EP) (PlanetName41)
System-5: Minor (1EP) (PlanetName51)
System-6: Minor (1EP) (PlanetName61)
System-7: Minor (1EP) (PlanetName71)
System-8: Minor (1EP) (PlanetName81)
(Note: The WYN at start economy is 23 EP)

(4WE.2) Planetary Improvements: As the war escalated, the WYNs realized that their economy needed to grow in order to support and defend their sovereignty. To reflect this, whenever one of the adjacent races (Lyran, Kzinti or Klingon) is at war, role two dice at the start of the Alliance player phase and keep track of the results. Whenever to result equals 50, a WYN planet is then able to produce economic points normally. It is assumed that the WYNs concentrated their efforts on the major planets first, followed by the minors outward starting within the capital system.
(Authors note: This will typically result in one WYN planet being able to produce at full capacity about every seven turns for an estimated total of five planets during the entire 35 turns of the General War.)

(4WE.21) If the WYNs are player controlled then the player must specify which planet will receive the improvement before points are added to its tally.

(4WE.3) Released Economy: Until the WYN Cluster is attacked, the WYNs do not actually receive this income, but it is instead used the support the notional WYN pre-war construct schedule, build additional infrastructure and grow their economy.

(4WE.31) Once attacked the WYN economy is released for two turns. If attack again on a subsequent turns then the economy remains released for the next two WYN player production cycles.

\b(4WE.4) WYN Commercial Convoy (WCC)}: If attacked the WYN may choose to attempt to establish a temporary trade agreement with enemy of the attacker. A special robotic commercial convoy may depart the cluster during operational movement of the non-attacking player’s turn.

(4EW.41) The trading partner player can then, during operation movement, move transport unit(s) (tug, LTT, HDWT, military convoy, etc.) to rendezvous with the special commercial convoy, spend a movement point to conduct the transfer of no more than 10 EPs. The transport unit(s) can continue to move back to a SB in its main grid where it delivers the EPs upon arrival to the SB.

(4EW.42) The WCC can then move back to the cluster using the retrograde movement rules where it delivers up to an equal amount delivered to it trading partner. Example: if during the transfer, the Lyran player sends only an LTT that can only carry 7 EPs then the WCC can only return with 7 EPs.

(4EW.43) The WCC uses all other applicable Commercial Convoy rules (443.0).

(4EW.44) One such transfer can be attempted each turn that the cluster economy is released. Each transfer contains only 10 EP worth of goods.

(4EW.45) The WYN player must announce the intension to send a WCC during the economic phase (Phase 1G) of the trading partner to enable him to assign a tug unit to that mission. The WYN player could later choose not to send to special convoy (possibly based on the tactical situation) but the tug mission cannot be reassigned until the next phase.

(4EW.46) Unused WCCs may be saved and used on later turns at the option of the WYN player. However, if attacked later by the old trading partner, all stockpiled WCC disbanded and lost. These transfers can occur even if the WYN player’s economy is not released. The WCC EPs gained by the WYN player are “released” even if their economy is not.

By Nick Samaras (Koogie) on Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 09:02 pm: Edit

Should also specify if WYN acumulate unspent EP as if on a Wartime economy or not (like the LDR do) without effects of exhaustion.

By David Kass (Dkass) on Wednesday, March 24, 2004 - 08:12 pm: Edit

Isn't there a rule about sending ships to the cluster for cash? I'd suggest that such funds do not come from the WYN treasury, but from the non-developped part of the planets (at least until that amount, per turn, is exceeded). This gives the WYN an incentive to accept such ships. I'd run other things (ie the WYN trade rule) the same way.

The basic idea is that they can ship out the raw materials with little production cost and let the receiving party do the actual labor intensive processing...

The WCC sounds awfully complex. I'd just use the existing rules with the WYN getting "free" cash since their portion is coming from the unproduced funds.

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 02:52 am: Edit

Here is my research on the WYN OOB as best as I could find in the R sections, 1995 Starship Registry, Master Ship Chart and SFB Scenarios up to the time of the War of Return (WoR). This suggested OOB will allow F&E players to who wish to attack the Cluster to know at a given year what units are available.

Derived from SFB:
(R12.2) WYN CAPTURED/CONVERTED SHIPS
Baseline units available during the General War:
1xLDD, later converted to LPB
5xZFF
3xKG2
Some number of purchased Orion Ships
3xMON
10xSAC
3xSAV
3xLAC
3xSAP
1xLAV
Various captured & converted ships
Various home built ships
50x PF by Y181
100x F&E Fighter Factors

WYN CLUSTER DEFENSE FLEET:
LDD, 4xSAC, 2xZFF, 3xMON (R12.2)
CR, LR, 2xSAG (R12.30), SAS
KZINTI BORDER INTERDICTION FORCE
2xSAC, ZFF, KG2 (R12.2)
CR, LR, 1xLRS
KLINGON BORDER INTERDICTION FORCE
2xSAC, ZFF, KG2 (R12.2)
CR, LR, 1xLRS
LYRAN BORDER INTERDICTION FORCE
2xSAC, ZFF, KG2 (R12.2)
CR, LR, 1xLRS

Y168F: SAC

Y169S: DBR (R12.14A & MSC)
Y169F: LR (1/yr per (R12.1G) until Y175)
Y169F: BR (1 Named & MSC) (WoR)

Y170S: SAV (R12.2)
Y170S: LR
Y170F: WJL (R12.43)
Y170F: SAV (R12.2)

Y171F: LR
Y171S: SAV (R12.2)

Y172S: SAC
Y172F: LR

Y173S: LR
Y173S: LAV (R12.2)
Y173F: Captured & Converted KE4 (R12.2)
Y173F: LAC (R12.2)

Y174S: LAC (R12.2)
Y174S: EAV (R12.2)
Y174F: LR
Y174F: LAC (R12.2)

Y175S: HDN (R12.16)
Y175F: FF (R12.18)

Y176S: SAC
Y176F: FF

Y177S: FF (R12.18) & (Changed to 2/Yr)
Y177F: FF
Y177F: Captured & Converted KE4

Y178S: FFC (R12.31) (WoR)
Y178F: FFC (R12.31)

Y179S: SAP (R12.2)
Y179S: FFC (R12.31)
Y179F: SAP (R12.2)
Y179F: FF

Y180S: SAP (R12.2)
Y180F: SAC
Y180F: FF

Y181S: *Lyrans Invade - Lionheart
Y181S: SAC
Y181S: FF
Y181S: Convert LDD>LPB
Y181F: *SY Captured
Y181F: FF
Y181F: ASC
Y181F: DW

Y182S: *Klingons Invade - Riposte
Y182S: FF (OLRX)
Y182S: DW
Y182S: CW
Y182F: *Kzinti Incursion (SH90)
Y182F: Captured & Converted KE4
Y182F: OCR (OCRX) (WoR)
Y182F: FF
Y182F: DW (DWS) (WoR)

Y183S: Capture & Converted ZDW
Y183S: FF
Y183S: DW (DWE) (WoR)
Y183S: CW (CWV) (WoR)
Y183F: Capture & Converted ZDF
Y183S: Convert SAC>SAX
Y183F: OCR
Y183F: Kzinti Gift: Convert ZFF>ZFX
Y183F: FF
Y183F: DW (DWE) (WoR)
Y183F: CW (PFT) (WoR)

Y184S: Kzinti Gift: Convert ZFF>ZFX
Y184S: FF
Y184S: DW
Y184S: CW
Y184F: FF (FCR) (WoR)
Y184F: DW (DWC) (WoR)
Y184F: CW
Y184F: Convert SAC>SAX
Y184F: CA (WoR)

Y185S: FF
Y185S: DW (WoR)
Y185S: CW (CWM) (WoR)
Y185S: Convert SAC>SAX
Y185F: FF
Y185F: DW (DWX) (WoR)
Y185F: CW
Y185F: CA

Y186S: CW
Y186F: FF (WoR)
Y186F: DW (WoR)
Y186F: CA (CAX) (WoR)

Y186S: DW (DWX) (WoR)
Y186S: FF
Y186F: CW

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Here is a suggested index for the units above. Not all designations match those used in SFB as they may have exceeded the 3 letter F&E standard (like AuxBCS). Since there are four bacis hull types of WYN auxiliary ships I choose to standardize them to the F&E designations system (like SAV - Small Aux Carrier)

I also standardized the CW & DW designations to allow for quick ID for such thing as use in Battle Groups or conversions/substitutions.

Ship DescriptionSuggested F&E 3-Ltr DesignationMSC YIS
FISH SHIPS
Dreadnought (Grey Shark)DN189
Heavy Battlecruiser (Tiger Shark)BCH186
Heavy Cruiser (Carcharodon)CA184
Heavy Cruiser - X TechCAX186
Strike CarrierCVS187
Fast CruiserCF185
War Cruiser (Orca)CW182
War Cruiser - CommandoCWC183
War Cruiser - CarrierCWV183
War Cruiser - Mauler (Narwhal)CWM185
War Cruiser - PFTCWP183
Heavy War Destroyer (Thresher)HDW187
War Destroyer (Mako)DW181
War Destroyer - CommandoDWC183
War Destroyer - DroneDWD184
War Destroyer - X TechDWX185
War Destroyer - EscortDWE183
War Destroyer - CarrierDWV186
War Destroyer - ScoutDWS182
Frigate (Barracuda)FF175
Frigate - CommandoFFC178
Frigate - FCRFCR184
ORION PURCHASED SHIPS
Battle RaiderBR169
Light CruiserCR160
Light Cruiser - X TechCRX182
Double RaiderDBR169
Light RaiderLR160
Light Raider - X TechLRX182
WYN CONVERTED SHIPS
Lyran - Pocket BattleshipLPB181
Lyran - Pocket BattlecruiserLPC186
Lyran - DestroyerLDD139
Kzinti - War DestroyerZDW183
Kzinti - FrigateZFF136
Kzinti - Drone Frigate ZDF183
Kzinti - Frigate X TechZFX183
Klingon - E4KE4154
Klingon - G2KG2136
Jindarian - Light CruiserWJL170
AUXILIARY SHIPS
S - Aux CruiserSAC140
S - Aux Light ScoutSAS140
S - Aux Commando CruiserSAG148
S - Aux Light CarrierSAV170
S - Aux PF Tender SAP179
S - Aux Advanced Cruiser XSAX183
L - Aux Battle Cruiser LAC173
L - Aux Heavy CarrierLAV173
L - Aux Space Control ShipLSC181
E - Aux Battle CarrierEAV174
E - Aux Battle Control ShipEAB183
H - Aux DreadnoughtHDN175
H - Aux Battle Control ShipHAB183
S = Small Auxiliary (1 Pod)
L = Large Auxiliary (2 Pods)
E = Enlarged Auxiliary (3 Pods)
H = Heavy Auxiliary (4 Pods)

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 04:00 am: Edit

Notional Proposal: If at any time the WYN is attacked their economy and build schedule is released for two WYN player turns following the attack. This will enable the WYN to recover ship losses and repair others.

(712.1) WYN Post Attack Build Schedule

Fall Y168 – Y172: SAC, CR, LR
Spring Y169 – Y172: SAC, 2xLR

Spring Y173 – Y174: SAC, CR, LR
Fall Y173 - Y174: LAC, 2xLR

Spring Y175 – Y176: SAC, CR, FF
Fall Y175 - Y176: LAC, FF, LR

Spring Y175 – Y176: SAC, CR, FF
Fall Y175 - Y176: LAC, FF, LR

Spring Y177 – Y181: SAC, CR, 2xFF
Fall Y177 - Y180: LAC, 2xFF

Fall Y181 - Y183: LAC, CR, DW, 2xFF
Spring Y182 – Y184: SAC, CW, DW, 2xFF

Fall Y184 - Y186: CA, CW, DW, 2xFF
Spring Y185 – Y186: SAC, CW, DW, 2xFF

By Craig Tenhoff (Cktenhoff) on Sunday, March 28, 2004 - 11:08 pm: Edit

Chuck,

should the Small Auxilliary Commando Cruiser be a FTS? Or is it built on a heavier hull? Not having played SFB in years, I don't remember.

By Scott Tenhoff (Scottt) on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 11:15 am: Edit

Isn't the WJL (WYN-Jindo Light Cruiser), a Conjectural/Rumor ship?

Great work though.

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Monday, March 29, 2004 - 11:27 am: Edit

Craig:

I seem to recall that it is significantly more armed than the FTS (2xDrone or phaser?). It was more an AuxC that carries troops than WYN version of the FTS.

Scott:

I included it to be in a complete accounting of WYN units.

By Chuck Strong (Raider) on Saturday, April 03, 2004 - 10:32 pm: Edit

Here is my proposed playtest WYN SIT:

TypeTypeRuleFactors_on_CountersCRDateAvailHull:SizeConversion_Cost; SourceBuild Cost orSubstitutionSalv(439.0)Notes
SAC63-2/13Y140SAC(4)See (440.4) & (433.25)Schedule: 20.5Small Aux Cruiser
SAG302G/13Y148SAC(4)For SAC: 1For SAC: 20.5Small Aux Commando Cruiser
SAP80-2P/0-1P3Y179SAC(4)From SAC: 3For SAC: 40.5Small Aux PF Tender
SAS91-2*/0-13Y140SAC(4)From SAC: 2For SAC: 40.5Small Aux Scout; EW=2
SAV71-2(3)/0-2(1)^3Y170SAC(4)From SAC: 2+6For SAC: 4+60.5Small Aux Light Carrier
SAX2017/44Y183LAC(3)From SAC: 6For SAC: 71.75Small Aux Advanced Cruiser;X-Ship
LAC99/56Y173LAC(3)See (440.4) & (433.25)Schedule: 91.0Large Aux Battle Cruiser
LAPFuture2-4*/1-26Y179LAC(3)From LAC: 5 From LAS: 2For LAC: 61.0Large Aux PF Tender; EW=2
LAS62-4*/1-26Y173LAC(3)From LAC: 3For LAC: 61.0Large Aux Scout; EW=3
LAV101-4(12)/0-2(6)6Y173LAC(3)From LAC: 2+12For LAC: 4+121.0Large Aux Heavy Carrier
LSC131-4P(6) */0-2P(3)6Y181LAC(3)From LAC: 5+6 From LAV: 3 From LAP: 2+6 From LAS: 3+6For LAC: 7+61.0Large Aux Space Control Ship;Scout; EW=2
EAV4410(5)/5(2)^6Y174EAV(3)From LAC: 2+10For HDN: 11+101.5Enlarged Aux Battle Carrier;Medium Carrier
EAB4510P/5P6Y183EAB(3)From LAC: 3For HDN: 121.5Enlarged Aux Battle Control Ship
HDN1616/87Y175HDN(2)From LAC: 9Schedule: 182.0Heavy Aux Dreadnought
HAB1714-16P(6)/7-8P(3)7Y183HDN(2)From HDN: 5+12For HDN: 23+122.0Heavy Aux Battle Control Ship
KE4156-5/34Y154E4(4)From Klingon E4: 4N/A0.625Captured Ship §
KG254/23Y136G2(4)From Klingon G2: 4N/A0.5Captured Ship §
LDD37-6^/34Y139DD(4)From Lyran DD: 4N/A1.25Captured Ship §
LPB1210(1)/5^7Y181CW(3)From LDD: 4 From Lyran DD: 7N/A1.25Captured Ship §
LPC389-8(1)/4^6Y186DW(4)From Lyran DW: 4N/A1.0Captured Ship §
WJL4310-12(4)/5-6(2)6Y170?CL(3)From Jindarian CL: 6N/A3.0Captured Ship, Casual Carrier
ZDF?6-5^<4>/33Y183FF(4)From Kzinti DF: 4 From ZFF: 2N/A0.625Captured Ship §
ZDW397-6(1)/3^4Y183DW(4)From Kzinti DW: 4N/A1.0Captured Ship §
ZFF46-5^/33Y136FF(4)From Kzinti FF: 4N/A0.625Captured Ship §
ZFX2018-7/44Y183FF(4)From Kzinti FF: 7 From ZFF: 5N/A1.75Captured Ship; X-Ship §
OBR147/46Y169BR(3)From Orion BR: 2Schedule: 51.25Purchased Ship §
OCR146/36Y160CR(3)From Orion CR: 2Schedule: 61.5Purchased Ship §
OCRX2039/57Y182CR(3)From Orion CR: 7 From OCR: 5For CR: 102.5Purchased Ship; X-Ship §
ODR146/36Y169DBR(4)From Orion DBR: 2Schedule: 61.5Purchased Ship §
OLR144/23Y160LR(4)From Orion LR: 1Schedule: 2.50.625Purchased Ship §
OLX2047/44Y182LR(4)From Orion LR: 6 From OLR: 5For LR: 82.0Purchased Ship; X-Ship §
OLS141-4*/0-23Y160LR(4)From Orion LR: 1For LS: 3.50.625Purchased Ship;Scout; EW=1 §
DN4112(1)/6^10189DN(2)N/ASchedule: 16+14.0Base Hull Type: DN
BCH4010(1)/5^10186BCH(3)N/AFor CA: 10+12.5Base Hull Type: BCH
CA279(1)/5^9184CA(3)See (440.4) & (433.25)Schedule: 9+12.25Base Hull Type: CA
CAX2912(1)/6^10186CA(3)From CA: 3For CA: 12+13.0X-Ship
CVS429(6)/5(3)9187CA(3)From CA: 2+12For CA: 11+122.25Medium Carrier
CF348-9(1)F/5^9185CA(3)From CA: 3For CA: 11+12.25Fast Ship (525.1)
CW237/46182CW(3)See (440.4) & (433.25)Schedule: 51.25Base Hull Type: CW §
CWG333-7GG/2-4G6183CW(3)From CW: 1For CW: 51.25Commando Ship §
CWM267+/46185CW(3)From CW?: 4For CW: 71.25Mauler (Narwhal)
CWP252-7P*/1-4P7183CW(3)From CW: 5For CW: 101.25Scout; PFT; EW=2 §
CWV247(6)/4(3)7183CW(3)From CW: 2+12For CW: 7+121.25Medium Carrier
HDW376-7(1)/3-45187HDW(4)From DW: 2+1For DW: 5+11.25Modular Ship (525.2);§ in some modes.
DW196/34181DW(4)See (440.4) & (433.25)Schedule: 41.0Base Hull Type: DW §
DWD225-6<4>*/34184DW(4)From DW: 3For DW: 71.0Drone Bombardment Variant;EW=2 §
DWE216/34183DW(4)From DW: 1For DW: 51.0Light Escort §
DWG323-6G/2-34183DW(4)From DW: 1For DW: 41.0Commando Ship §
DWS203-6*/1-34182DW(4)From DW: 2For DW: 61.0EW=2 §
DWV356(4)/3(2)5186DW(4)From DW: 1+8For DW: 5+81.0Light Carrier
DWX2810/56185DW(4)From DW: 7For DW: 102.5X-Ship §
FF185/33175FF(4)See (440.4) & (433.25)Schedule: 30.75Base Hull Type: FF §
FCR362-5[6]/1-33183FF(4)From FF: 1+6For FF: 4+60.75Carrier Resupply Ship;Light Escort §
FFC313-5G/2-33178FF(4)From FF: 1For FF: 30.75Commando Ship §
FFE465/33183FF(4)From FF: 1For FF: 40.75Light Escort §
Symbols:
* = Scout Diamond
^ = 1/2 Fighter Factor

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