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is cloaking worth it?

 
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silent bob
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 10:58 pm    Post subject: is cloaking worth it? Reply with quote

hey guys, just a question, is cloaking really worth it? one of my regular opponents plays romulans and he likes to cloak for the 1st turn or 2 of a game but I really cant see the point.
ok it stops me saber dancing but all that means is I do over run attacks instead from point blank range.
maybe hes not using the cloak very well but so far it doesnt seem worth it.
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mjwest
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In a one-on-one duel, what it really means is that you won't take much damage while cloaked, but you will get hammered as you come out of cloak. Before you use it, you have to ask yourself if you can survive that hit and still win. If you can, use it. If you can't, you probably shouldn't.

On the other hand, if you are going to die anyway, it will probably keep you from getting killed. On a fixed or location map, it will probably let you get away, too.

But if you are doing overrun attacks at point blank range to a cloaked ship, he really should be taking advantage of that. Particularly if you are being silly enough to fire at him while he is still under cloak.
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pinecone
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's why there's carronades! Very Happy

Seriously though, cloak hurts nearly anywhere. A got hammered with an S in Fleet Scale because my cloaked opponent got behind me.
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Savedfromwhat
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you pass him and did he HET? How fast were you going?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I forget, it was awhile ago. But I think he Hetted (or I made a bad mistake in manuvering). I think I was at speed eight (which was foolish).
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TJolley
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are playing against Fusion Hydrans, you are invulnerable against Gatlings, and almost invulnerable against Fusion Beams. Even during fade ina nd fade out you will receive littlet o no damage.

Hellbores on the other hand.....
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silent bob
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mjwest wrote:

But if you are doing overrun attacks at point blank range to a cloaked ship, he really should be taking advantage of that. Particularly if you are being silly enough to fire at him while he is still under cloak.


well it was the 8th impulse so i just unloaded everything at range 1-2 obviously modified range/damage for cloaking. didnt do a huge amount but used up his spare energy boosting his shields, which he didnt think about and left him fading in the following turn which got him nuked 1st impulse.
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pneumonic81
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

in duels I use the cloak to hide while I reload if I cant keep a good distance. but speed 16 + cloak is pretty handy.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cloak is just there to give the cowardly romulans something to hide with when they are not bold enogh to fight without plasma. The Gorns on the other hand......
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junior
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A cloak is a useful tool when used properly.

But there are a lot of players that use it when they shouldn't.
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DNordeen
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I prefer to use the cloak AFTER I fire. I'll use it while I'm reloading if I can't keep the range open, but if I'm past Range 15, I usually don't bother cloaking. Once the torps are loaded, I make my firing pass uncloaked and cloak after launching the plasma.

just my 2 cents
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

junior wrote:
A cloak is a useful tool when used properly.

But there are a lot of players that use it when they shouldn't.


The vulcans they are think that way. The Klingons probably consider it a cheating and dishonorable way to win a battle. But it is an important adition, and tactic, for romulan (and Orion) ships, as well as being a nuciance.
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