Federation Commander

pinecone · Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 1:40 pm Post subject:

Would anyone mind if I posted one of my terrain questions here, or should I start a new thread?

Kang · Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 4:17 pm Post subject:

Kang · Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 4:18 pm Post subject:

Mike · Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:59 pm Post subject:

Kang:

If the firing ship is in 1019, the target in 1219, and a planet in 1119 or 1120, this is a sticky wicket.

Without the planet, the target ship player could choose either shield facing through which to take the fire. There seems to be two possible outcomes:
1. The fire would not be able to occur if the target chose the shield that was more in line with the planet, or
2. The fire would occur on whichever shield the target chose, but it *would* occur because the line of fire does not pass through the planet.

The way I read the seeking weapon rules, in this case a seeking weapon could still be launched because the planet is not "blocking" the line of sight to the target. Once it is launched, it can move to avoid the planet no matter what. The target cannot maneuver in such a way as to force a seeking weapon to impact the planet.

That's my opinion.

Kang · Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:35 pm Post subject:

Thanks Mike. My question, though, mainly relates to whether the line of sight is blocked by the planet, not so much which shield is hit - although of course that question will come in once I have found out whether I can actually shoot or not. Your answer does raise more points as well! Very interesting; I hadn't thought about one shield being blocked and one not....
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pinecone · Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:59 pm Post subject:

Okay then, here it is (it's come up twice, both in scenarios where ships land on planets): The rule book says that a ship landed on a planet is protected from fire from three different directions, but it never says what those directions are or how you determine them. Any Ideas Question

Bolo_MK_XL · Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 10:57 pm Post subject:

Pinecone

That one seems easy ---
Determine which hex the ship landed in --- the hexes to the left and right of it would have line of sight -- the other three wouldn't --

pinecone · Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:00 pm Post subject:

what about on a one-hex planet?

Mike · Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 12:43 am Post subject:

The one-hex planet was what he was referring to.

djdood · Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 1:09 am Post subject:

A one-hex planet has six hex-faces pinecone.
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pinecone · Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 1:15 am Post subject:

He said full hexes, not hex faces. And wouldn't there be two hexes to the left and two to the right?

Scoutdad · Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 12:11 pm Post subject:

pinecone:
Think of it this way...

here's your planet:

/-\
\_/... say you landed on the bottom hex face,

__ B
B/-\B
C\_/C
__C
The hex faces labled "B" block enemy fire to you as they can not fire through the planet itself,
The hexes labeled "C" allow a clear line of sight to your ship.

I hope that helps.
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pinecone · Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 12:20 pm Post subject:

Oh, that makes sense. Thanks Scoutdad.

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Mike · Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 5:26 pm Post subject:

dstancliffe:

I understand your explanation and think it makes sense.

I'll back up and say this, though: after carefully reading the rule (6A1d) about planets blocking direct-fire weapons, I do not see the planet blocking fire in the example mentioned in this thread. The line of sight for the fire is occurring along the edge of the planet hex. A strict reading of the rule says that the planet blocks the fire if the planet hex intersects the line of fire. In this case, it does not.

Which shield of the target ship is impacted by the fire is a separate issue. Like I said above, I think it would be whichever shield the target ship wants.

Good explanation.