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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like most of you favor the Heavy Cruisers. Based off what's been said, I think I'd agree, but, then again, Battleships are very very big. Guess It just depends on who's got the BB.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have a BB and a heavy cruiser against three heavy cruisers, the BB/CA combo would likely win.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Remember though, like it was said up-thread, BB are meant to be "super flagships".

They weren't built to be "super duelers".

They'll make a good showing of themselves in an even-point duel against multiple enemies, but it's not their forte. The designs don't have the same offensive/defensive balance as the smaller (FF, DD, CL, CA) ships, as it's assumed they will have consorts to help keep drone waves off them, etc. and let them focus on being "power-hitters".

They really are the next step up from a Dreadnought and have a proportionally similar level of increased "oomph" as you get when comparing a Dreadnought to a Heavy Cruiser.

Put a BB as the centerpoint of a large battlefleet, and that is where they shine. The other side is faced with a tough choice; try to (slowly) wear down the BB (while its consorts have free reign to pummel unchallenged) or not focus on it and try to pick-off consorts one at a time via concentrated fire (in which case, you have an unchallenged BB raining heck at you). Spreading fire across everything just doesn't do any good at all, typically. Not a fun place to be, and it's all because of that expensive BB's presence.

Given a choice between a BB led fleet and one with a BC and CA taking up those points instead, it's a tough choice. Concentration versus numbers. I'd usually lean to the big boat though, if only because it's fun to have something that can make even cruisers go away with one "alpha strike".
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even the planet killer can't do that, so I guess it is a useful bonus.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scoutdad wrote:
Dal Downing wrote:

As far as the using The Stars and Bars over the more common Battle Standard (Which is on the 2nd and 3rd nation Flags) I thought about it but figure I would just avoid the whole possiablity of someday upsetting someone who has no clue why The War of Northern Aggression was fought. Twisted Evil


My first thought when doing the BGM avatar was to use the Battle Standard, but as with you - I chose to avoid derogatory comments about the War of Northern Aggression and simply went with a variation of the ADB logo overlaid on top of the Tennessee state flag.


If I ever get around to doing a USS Mississippi avatar, guess I'll be the goat Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pinecone wrote:
Even the planet killer can't do that, so I guess it is a useful bonus.


Oh but the Death Probe can!
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The death probe could gut a dreadnaught with an alpha strike. The deathprobe could gut the planet killer with an alpha strike.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deathprobe Facts.
1. If you have five dollars and Deathprobe has five dollars, Deathprobe has more money than you.
2. There is no 'ctrl' button on Deathprobe's computer. Deathprobe is always in control.
3. Apple pays Deathprobe 99 cents every time it listens to a song.
4. Deathprobe can sneeze with its eyes open.
5. Deathprobe can eat just one Lay's potato chip.
6. Deathprobe is suing Myspace for taking the name of what it calls everything around itself.
7. Deathprobe destroyed the periodic table, because it only recognizes the element of surprise.
8. Deathprobe can kill two stones with one bird.
9. Deathprobe can divide by zero.
10. Deathprobe's tears cure cancer. Too bad it never cries. Ever.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

11. Deathprobe can teach an old dog new tricks.
12. Deathprobe can teach a dead dog new tricks.
13. Deathprobe can kill a dog to teach it new tricks.
14. Deathprobe can steal my Literature teacher's coke and not get scolded.
15. Deathprobe doesn't need stealth, anything that finds it will soon be ___.
16. Deathprobe isn't meanacing for long after you see it.
17. The ISC have never tried to pacify the Deathprobe.
18. Deathprobe + anything else = Deathprobe.
19. Deathprobe has no addictions, other than destroying everybody elses.
20. Deathprobe is ... (BOOM)
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

21. Deathprobe has only one friend--Chuck Norris.
22. Deathprobe counted to infinity TWICE!
23. Deathprobe can take ANY Yo Mama jokes, becuse it has no mama.
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24. The Deathprobe uses Chuck Norris as a sidekick.
25. The Deathprobe can teach Alton Brown cooking tips... to bad it blew up the kitchen.
26. The Deathprobe thought the B10S made great hood ornament, but don't ask the Kzintis what it did with the SSCS.
27. The Deathprobe is the real reason the Andromedan invasion failed.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

28. General Zod knelt before Deathprobe.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

29. Deathprobe can listen to William Shatner's CDs over and over without getting a headache.
30. Deathprobe Doesn't care that it's the only one of it's kind, if there were another it would have to try to be the best.
31. Deathprobe is the best.
32. Murphy's law doesn't apply to Deathprobe.
33. Deathprobe doesn't care for christmas, everything around it are it's toys.
34. Deathprobe doesn't mind homework, it'll destroy the teacher who assaigned it before the due date.
35. Deathprobe takes whatever it wants. It destroys whatever's in it's way.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

36. Deathprobe got to the apple on Pac Man, on it's first try.
37. Deathprobe doesn't know where it came from, and doesn't care. All intelligent beings will soon be gone anyway.
38. No one alive has met the Deathprobe (luckily).
39. Deathprobe can kill someone with a squirt gun.
40. Deathprobe can rob a bank without a disguise and not get arrested.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deathprobe can defeat all but Kirk.
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