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OGOPTIMUS Captain
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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:23 am Post subject: Kzinti base color & good airbrush technique? |
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How do people paint the base color of their Kzintis?
I'm trying to get away from spray, since touch ups often don't blend very well.
I've done both a black and a white basecoated mini and both look "meh" since the red is tough to get even since it's thin, like most "lighter" colored paints.
Any ideas? _________________ O.G. OPTIMUS
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Wolverin61 Commander
Joined: 16 Nov 2008 Posts: 495 Location: Mississippi
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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:45 am Post subject: |
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My Kzintis are Testors Russian Marker Red, which is a reddish orange color I like. I'll try to take some pics and post them sometime. _________________ "His pattern indicates two-dimensional thinking."
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Brigman Lieutenant JG
Joined: 15 Aug 2009 Posts: 90 Location: San Francisco, CA
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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:47 am Post subject: |
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My Kzintis are basecoated in Citadel's "Blood Red", then washed with Citadel's "Scab Red". I have pics up in the Painting Examples section for the 'Zin. |
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hobbybob Lieutenant JG
Joined: 10 Sep 2009 Posts: 59 Location: Minneapolis, MN
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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:08 am Post subject: Kzinti painting |
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I used to use a base coat of generic grey primer with a brushed overcoat of Pactra Leather.
At some point I plan to repaint them with more modern paint, but my Kzinti ships are the old castings (that seem to fall apart when I look at them . Thank you, Steve Cole, for updating these castings!). I've unpacked them to decal, but first I have to figure out which drone arm goes with which ship. _________________ Those who can, paint.
Those who can't paint, decal. |
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djdood Commodore
Joined: 01 Feb 2007 Posts: 3414 Location: Seattle, WA
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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:15 am Post subject: |
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I've already basecoated and stripped all my Kzintis at least once. That red is a really tough one to find and be happy with.
I want a nice deep "brick red" color (like ship hulls below the waterline). I really like the look Dale gets too.
I also want to stick to a "stock" color (no more custom-mixes; Feds and Klingons are enough work).
What I'm hoping I've settled on is a Humbrol enamel. It looks to be the darker tone I want. I'll know more once I've done some test-sprays. _________________
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Scoutdad Commodore
Joined: 09 Oct 2006 Posts: 4754 Location: Middle Tennessee
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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:52 am Post subject: |
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Mine are painted Tamiya flat red, then highlighted with CeramCoat Napthol Crimson and washed with a Windsor & Newton red ink: MAgic wash mixture. _________________ Commander, Battlegroup Murfreesboro
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ctchapel Lieutenant JG
Joined: 16 Jun 2008 Posts: 84 Location: Federal Way, WA
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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 2:30 am Post subject: |
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The stock color I use on Kzinti ships is Testors Model Master "British Crimson".
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SWO_Daddy Lieutenant SG
Joined: 14 Feb 2008 Posts: 195 Location: Stuttgart, Germany
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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:09 am Post subject: |
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As do I Charles. Great minds think alike! _________________ Check out my website at: http://www.jgray-sfb.com/
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OGOPTIMUS Captain
Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Posts: 980
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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks guys.
I think I found the paint that I like, now I just have to apply it.
Basecoating by hand just isn't working.
So I think it's time to buy my first airbrush.
I was thinking about getting something simple, like a single action external mix.
Any opinions? Any suggestions? _________________ O.G. OPTIMUS
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Scoutdad Commodore
Joined: 09 Oct 2006 Posts: 4754 Location: Middle Tennessee
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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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Badger makes a very good, very inexpensive single-action, external mix airbrush. I think it's a model 250, but I could be wrong.
I have a Paachse single action, internal mix airbrush I use for base coating, simply because it's easy to clean than the Badger 150 XL I use for detail work. _________________ Commander, Battlegroup Murfreesboro
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djdood Commodore
Joined: 01 Feb 2007 Posts: 3414 Location: Seattle, WA
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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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The elCheapo Testors airbrush is a solid one for base-coating. I used it for years (using canned air) and it was all I needed for that.
Turns out I have an extra one I found it in my model-stash in my Dad's garage. Email sent to ya. _________________
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Hod K'el Lieutenant Commander
Joined: 21 Aug 2008 Posts: 301 Location: Lafayette LA
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Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with both Scoutdad & djdood. An upper class unit is very nice for camo work & detailing of larger miniatures or models, but for base coating, just use the Testers air brush. _________________ HoD K'el
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OGOPTIMUS Captain
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Rather than start a new thread, I'll necro this one.
Can you use a metallic paint in an airbrush?
If so, can anyone recommend some good brands to use?
If not, how can I get a nice, smooth, non-brush stroke showing metallic colored basecoat, without resorting to spray cans that don't match the acrylics? _________________ O.G. OPTIMUS
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djdood Commodore
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Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 12:56 am Post subject: |
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I've never had any trouble with metallics in my Testors airbrush. They are a little more finicky about thinners and need to be agitated pretty frequently (they want to settle out), but other than that they went on fine. I also tried the "buffable" metalizer paints that Testors does - those require a different thinner and took a lot more coats but ended up looking nice. _________________
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Scoutdad Commodore
Joined: 09 Oct 2006 Posts: 4754 Location: Middle Tennessee
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Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:36 am Post subject: |
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Paul, I've also used metallic paint in many different airbrushes with little or no trouble.
The only thing I'd add to Will's comments is this: If possible, add a filter to your pick-up. It's not as critical in an external mix airbrush as it is in an internal mix airbrush, but a large "clump" of the metallic particles can still clog the intake or the nozzle and cause either sputtering or even a complete blockage.
And definitely agitate the paint frequently. I typically drop a couple of BB's into the bottle to assist in the agitation process (think rattle-can...). In fact, I've probably bought more BB's since I started painting than I ever did when I was younger and had a BB gun. I usually drop a couple of them into every new bottle of paint I buy - so I go through them fairly quickly. _________________ Commander, Battlegroup Murfreesboro
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