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terryoc · Captain Joined: 07 Oct 2006 Posts: 1384

IIRC tractor beams may be dropped at any point in the sequence of play. Which gave me an idea for an Evil Trick (blame Kang for this one, diabolical Klingon that he is Wink

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Tractor your Stinger during the Other Functions phase of the impulse. Accelerate to Speed 24+1. On sub-pulse 1, you move and take the Stinger with you. On Sub-pulse 2, ditto, but right after moving the ship, the tractor is dropped. It is not death dragged, because it has not moved three hexes while tractored. The Stinger then moves (since shuttles move AFTER SHIPS) and then the Stinger moves again on sub-pulse 4. Result? For one impulse, your Stinger has moved at twice normal speed. Which may be enough to jump the Stinger's Gap.
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mjwest · Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 3:25 am Post subject: Re: When may tractors be dropped?

Mike · Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 12:11 pm Post subject:

Can a player disable one of his own tractor boxes to cancel a tractor beam during a turn? If so, he could repair it at the end of the turn...
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mjwest · Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:06 pm Post subject:

There is no process for self-mutilation.

[Edit: That's a "no".]
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Kang · Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:49 pm Post subject:

terryoc · Captain Joined: 07 Oct 2006 Posts: 1384

In regards to Kang's tactic with saving stingers, is it legal to establish a tractor and then immediately drop it in the same phase? I don't think it's prohibited, but it probably wasn't thought of by the designer.
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mjwest · Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:53 am Post subject:

Kang · Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 6:50 am Post subject:

I remember we've had this asked before ('cos it was me!), and Mike gave the same answer then. It was in regard to tractor fights over a ship, that time.

http://www.starfleetgames.com/federation/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=657&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15 and it's just above the halfway point on the page.
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Hod K'el · Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:17 am Post subject:

Okay guys...help me get this right. This is a campaign question. I want to tractor a near dead ship on my starboard and a near dead ship on my port. I can do that, correct?

They are two of my surviving 'hulks'; all enemy vessels (over a thousand fighters) that survived scurried back to their base and returning carriers as they were out of ammo. (Their carriers were returning from a raid on one of my base stations, and no, it did not survive, and yes, they proceeded to raid my planet.) Two of my ships blew, two were in bad shape with fires sweeping the hanger decks. My ship would have been crippled if they had just one more squadron to throw at me.

And as I understand the rule, I have to plot speed 24 to be able to go speed 8 while towing the two ships (the ships have no significant power). Right?
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terryoc · Captain Joined: 07 Oct 2006 Posts: 1384

Hod, see rule (5D6b), third paragraph: "No ship can tractor more than one ship at the same time and must release one tractor link... to tractor another ship" So no.

Unfortunately, the fact that the ships are hulks is irrelevant. In FC, a ship is either alive or dead. If it's dead, you can't tractor it (it's removed from the map). If it's a campaign, the campaign moderator may have some special rule to cover this situation, but under vanilla FC rules you can only tow one of those ships.[/b]
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mjwest · Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 6:53 pm Post subject:

Hod K'el · Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:45 pm Post subject:

So, realistically, it is going to cost more to repair than to build a new carrier, which means I should beam the last command group in the auxiliary control and the last damage control team to my ship and blow the last aux and frame from range five, then 'rinse and repeat' and not tractor either ship...mainly due to cost; or just leave them for a salvage ship tow them in. We are very close to an asteroid field...I could just give them a little push...
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terryoc · Captain Joined: 07 Oct 2006 Posts: 1384

Well you can just use emergency evacuation (5E7) and then self-destruct the ships (3E3).
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mjwest · Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 1:16 am Post subject:

m1a1dat · Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 1:33 am Post subject:

If i have a tractor applied to a ship and i want to start evasive maneuvers, do i have to drop the tractor in the other functions phase and wait until next impulse defensive fire phase to announce EM or does my announcement of EM automatically shut off the tractor beam? If there were any impacted seeking weapons that were tractored and thus released by my EM they would use the same procedure (5D4c) as if the tractor was destroyed by a hit and run raid or not powered in energy allocation, correct? Which would also be the case if i cloaked out too, right?