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KJ
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:36 am    Post subject: ESG offensive burst question Reply with quote

Apologies if this has been addressed somewhere and I missed it (and I don't have Hydran Attack or the RRB yet, so...):

Played a Lyran/Hydran duel today and shocked my opponent by using an offensive ESG burst as part of a directed targeting attack. Is this legal?
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VulcanDropout
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:45 am    Post subject: No Reply with quote

2nd star under 5N2d
ESGs cannot use directed targetting
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have no 'stars' under 5n2d in my DK rules folio (rev. 0). Is this in a later printing of the DK book, Hydran Attack, or the RRB?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KJ wrote:
I have no 'stars' under 5n2d in my DK rules folio (rev. 0). Is this in a later printing of the DK book, Hydran Attack, or the RRB?

As far as I know it's only in the revised one. It's probably in a communique too.
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Hod K'el
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No offense is implied by what I am going to say; I say it to make you think...what makes you think an area of effect weapon can be directed?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hod, it wasn't prohibited in the original rules.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hod K'el wrote:
No offense is implied by what I am going to say; I say it to make you think...what makes you think an area of effect weapon can be directed?

He didn't think it was; that's why he asked. He said he was shocked. But without an actual rule preventing it his opponent would be right and you could direct. Luckily this one has a rule addendum.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hod K'el wrote:
No offense is implied by what I am going to say; I say it to make you think...what makes you think an area of effect weapon can be directed?


Which reminds me - must check up carronades and PPDs.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty sure it's "no" on PPDs. Carronades I think is yes, same as regular plasma bolts.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to Mike West, PPDs can direct target.

http://www.starfleetgames.com/federation/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=2941&start=150

Page 11 on this thread.

mjwest wrote:
mojo jojo wrote:
Can TR beams or PPDs use directed targetting? It seems that they can since there doesn't seem to be any specific rule against it, but they'd be the most powerful weapons short of PH4 that can do so.

Yes, they can.

While it is true they would be among the most powerful weapons that can do so, they are not out of scale with other powerful weapons. Also, with that power comes a much increased chance of the "blow-through" problem that directed targeting is subject to. It is a two-edged sword.



Mike did not say however if the splash elements would be able to target if they inflict internal damage.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carronades can:

http://www.starfleetgames.com/federation/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=395
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