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m1a1dat · Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 5:29 am Post subject: Penal ships

I've seen a few of the Klingon penal shops printed, do they have special rules? I can't find them. Do they have the poor/degraded crews and other things that they do in SFB?

dharras · Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 6:09 am Post subject: Re: Penal ships

terryoc · Captain Joined: 07 Oct 2006 Posts: 1384

Yes, penal ships have degraded crews.
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Steve Cole · Site Admin Joined: 11 Oct 2006 Posts: 3807

I sent a note to Mike West that penal ships seem a fun borders of maddness thing for CL43.
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mjwest · Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 9:08 pm Post subject:

Right now, all that happens is that Penal ships must use the (5X) Degrade Crew rules (their Point Values already include the "rebate"). That is the only limitation (which should be more than enough!).

I will see what else can be/needs be added to make Penal ships more "interesting" than just having Degrade Crews. Regardless, that is their primary distinguishing characteristic.
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Nerroth · Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 9:19 pm Post subject:

Maybe a chance at mutiny, Mike?
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mjwest · Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 9:25 pm Post subject:

m1a1dat · Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 3:58 am Post subject:

I figured it would be borders of madness but just didn't know where to find the info. Based on the low bpv compared to the normal version of the ship i figured it would have the degraded crew.

Steve Cole · Site Admin Joined: 11 Oct 2006 Posts: 3807

I am not sure I want mutiny in FC, even in BoM.
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mjwest · Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 4:17 pm Post subject:

Yes, Klingon penal ships are designed to be used in base Federation Commander by simply using the ship cards as published with the Degrade Crew rules in effect. Degraded crews are not BoM, and are part of the base rules. So, penal ships are completely usable.

Any penal rules for BoM will be to add more "flavor".
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mjwest · Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 4:18 pm Post subject:

terryoc · Captain Joined: 07 Oct 2006 Posts: 1384

Perhaps as an addendum to the "control stations" rule. As the rules are written, if you knock out the control stations on a regular ship, the ship suffers certain penalties. Perhaps if you disable all the control stations on a penal ship, the ship mutinies and comes under the control of the opposing player. It's difficult enough to achieve that it won't come up often, but adds a bit of flavour.
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Steve Cole · Site Admin Joined: 11 Oct 2006 Posts: 3807

I think it very unlikely that the ship would come under control of the opposing player. Surrender is a possibility (not usable in the current battle), but simply "going back home" is far more likely.
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Dan Ibekwe · Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 1:24 am Post subject:

It might depend on who they were fighting. If facing the democratic, freedom loving, human (and others) rights going-on-about Federation, surrender; if facing the Kzinti, run away. Very fast.

Other things penal ships might not be good at would be damage control (only half as many repair points per tum?) and systems operation (any tractor or transporter operation fails on a roll of a '6'?).
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dharras · Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 1:36 pm Post subject: