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IanSBurns Ensign

Joined: 24 Mar 2008 Posts: 4
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 10:30 pm Post subject: A few questions |
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Long time lurker, first time poster.
First, some exposition. I have been playing FedCom since 2009, when my best friend got me Romulan Border. I had tried SFB and F&E before and found them...likeable.
Now, my first question. I have recently taught my girlfriend how to play, and she enjoyed it alot and now she wants to start collecting, what do I recommend she grab; Academy or one of the Border boxes?
Second question: In your opinions, what is the ship that would best give a Federatio NCA a run of it's point cost? |
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Dal Downing Commander

Joined: 06 May 2008 Posts: 660 Location: Western Wisconsin
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Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 11:43 pm Post subject: Re: A few questions |
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IanSBurns wrote: | Long time lurker, first time poster. |
First as one former Lurker to another welcome.
IanSBurns wrote: | First, some exposition. I have been playing FedCom since 2009, when my best friend got me Romulan Border. I had tried SFB and F&E before and found them...likeable.
Now, my first question. I have recently taught my girlfriend how to play, and she enjoyed it alot and now she wants to start collecting, what do I recommend she grab; Academy or one of the Border boxes? ? |
Since you crrently have the Romulan Border getting The Academy is kind of a half step backwards if you want to add the mssingprts of the Klingon Border Set (Mainly Scenerios and Ship Cards) you should check into a product called kingon Space. http://store.starfleetstore.com/merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=S&Product_Code=4008&Category_Code=FCKB
Now the next question you need to answer is do you want more Rules (What Empire do you like?), more Ships Cards, or Miniature? Once you answer that someone will chime in with what there opinion of what your nextstep shold be.
IanSBurns wrote: | Second question: In your opinions, what is the ship that would best give a Federatio NCA a run of it's point cost? |
A Dreadnaght of course or better yet a Battleship from Battleships Attack But on a more srerious note any of the otherNew Heavy Crusiers or one of the Hevy Command Cruisers that are just starting to come out. I would try a Klingon D5W. Once you learn to Saber Dance with a D5W you can cause all kinds of Havoc on your opponet. Also don't forgt to look at the Ships in the Commanders Circle for more ideas. _________________ -Dal
"Which one of you is the Biggest, Baddest, Bootlicker of the bunch?"
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terryoc Captain

Joined: 07 Oct 2006 Posts: 1384
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Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 1:37 am Post subject: |
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I think Klingon Space might be the way to go if you already have Romulan Border and want Klingons. Another Border Box will get you another rulebook, more map tiles, etc. which may not want.
If you want more Romulans (and some Gorns and Feds) go with Romulan Attack.
The Fed NCA's a good ship; maybe match it against the Gorn BC or the Romulan NCA, ?Firehawk? _________________ "Captain" Terry O'Carroll, fourteen papers published including six best of issue
"Man, Terry, you are like a loophole seeking missle!" - Mike West
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IanSBurns Ensign

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Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 2:30 am Post subject: |
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Just to point this out, I already own almost all of the boxes(Both Borders, and all of the Attack modules except for War & Peace). I'm asking because my girlfriend wants her own stuff, so she can introduce it to her friends.
Also, I made the joke about me flying a Battleship against her NCA, and she nodded and said "okay, but we have to fight in an asteroid field".
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Dal Downing Commander

Joined: 06 May 2008 Posts: 660 Location: Western Wisconsin
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Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 3:35 am Post subject: |
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IanSBurns wrote: | Just to point this out, I already own almost all of the boxes(Both Borders, and all of the Attack modules except for War & Peace). I'm asking because my girlfriend wants her own stuff, so she can introduce it to her friends. |
Ok now she is asking the age old question. How much? How fast? If she wants to keep it slow and work here friends in to it. Firt off if she is teaching absolutly new people starting cold. Download her a Copy of First Missions. That is a pretty low key book that gets people blowing each other up pretty quick.
Once she hhas wetted their appitate so to speak if she wants to keep working slow and building up get the Academy Set (4 Ships - Fed CA, Klink D7, Gorn BC, and Rom WE). Fromther follow up the line to Graduation then Romulan Space. and she has both Boarder Boxes. OR if she thinks he friends are upto it just skip the Academy Route go straight for a Border Box followed by the coresponding Space Product. (I went Both Boarder Boxes so i would have the ExtraRule Boox and Charts.)
IanSBurns wrote: | Also, I made the joke about me flying a Battleship against her NCA, and she nodded and said "okay, but we have to fight in an asteroid field".
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Might I suggest just declaring Sublight Evasion at the start of every scenerio and just running for it =p ( Sorry mu SFBismscreeping in here.) _________________ -Dal
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mjwest Commodore

Joined: 08 Oct 2006 Posts: 4091 Location: Dallas, Texas
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Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 4:32 am Post subject: |
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If she wants to show it off to her friends, I recommend just buying one of the Border boxes (whichever she likes best). The reason is twofold: 1) I am assuming she doesn't have all of the pieces (counters and maps) and the Border box provides those; 2) it provides the best visual presentation. Sure, she can always get Academy and then download whatever ships she wants from Commanders' Circle, but that doesn't give her all of the nice mounted panels, the 1" counters, and laminated ship cards. The Border box does.
Then, when she has some spare cash after that, get the related Attack product. (I.e. pair Klingon Border and Klingon Attack or Romulan Border and Romulan Attack.) _________________
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duxvolantis Lieutenant SG

Joined: 16 Nov 2010 Posts: 185
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 3:18 am Post subject: |
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mjwest wrote: | If she wants to show it off to her friends, I recommend just buying one of the Border boxes (whichever she likes best). The reason is twofold: 1) I am assuming she doesn't have all of the pieces (counters and maps) and the Border box provides those; 2) it provides the best visual presentation. Sure, she can always get Academy and then download whatever ships she wants from Commanders' Circle, but that doesn't give her all of the nice mounted panels, the 1" counters, and laminated ship cards. The Border box does.
Then, when she has some spare cash after that, get the related Attack product. (I.e. pair Klingon Border and Klingon Attack or Romulan Border and Romulan Attack.) |
Also, I have never found having extra map boards and SSDs (or even a second rule book) to be a problem.  _________________ Dux Volantis
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IanSBurns Ensign

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Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Guys, I showed her your posts and she went out and grabbed Romulan Border(in her words, cause the sweet NCA is in it), Romulan Attack and Booster #1.
I got roped into teaching her two girlfriends how to play, and once again, I got trounced by...not one, but two ladies(One was flying a Klingon D7, the other a Gorn Strike Cruiser). I swear, the captain on my Heavy Cruiser is *THIS* close to quitting. (This is his four straight loss to the opposite gender).
plus she wants me write up an AAR for our Battleship vs NCA fight and post it here, "to collect tactical advice from exeperience captains". |
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Jean Site Admin

Joined: 18 Sep 2008 Posts: 1727
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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Ian, don't forget to let her know she's welcome to post here (as are her friends) and that we've got quite a few female friends on our page on Facebook. I'd love to see her (and them) there! _________________ Business Manager/RPG Line Editor
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Kang Fleet Captain

Joined: 23 Sep 2007 Posts: 1976 Location: Devon, UK
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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A bit pedantic but can I just clarify: when mjwest speaks of Border boxes, he means the base sets: 'Klingon Border' or 'Romulan Border'.
He doesn't mean the Border Boxes 'proper', which are pewter model starship collections. Sure, they're lovely models and perhaps you do want to go down the miniatures route, but they're not much good without the rules....
However I can see that your lady has already got her boxes anyway do the point is moot.
Btw, what a gentleman you are, Ian! Letting the girls gang up on you like that! _________________
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IanSBurns Ensign

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Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 3:32 am Post subject: |
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I have pointed that out to all three of them, but my gf just smiled sweetly and said "okay". I swear it was like staring at an incoming Klingon B10 and your in a Police Cutter.
She also grabbed the NCA mini, as well as the DNL, and is currently thinking up names. She's loving the Splendid Cats, and has already given the "Death of the Star Cougar" a run through with me. The Star Cougar managed to destroy a good chunk of the Klingons before the D7 managed to gut her warp engines. |
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kirbykibble Lieutenant JG

Joined: 07 Jun 2011 Posts: 82 Location: Earth
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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 2:34 am Post subject: Battleship? |
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ok, ill just do the second question...
Dont bother with a battleship. Use a Andromedan Dominator with 8 Cobras which would be like... 1000 points Squadron scale. _________________ We are the ISC! NO ONE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT IT STANDS FOR!! |
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kirbykibble Lieutenant JG

Joined: 07 Jun 2011 Posts: 82 Location: Earth
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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 2:39 am Post subject: Battleship? |
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ok, ill just do the second question...
Dont bother with a battleship. Use a Andromedan Dominator with 8 Cobras which would be like... 1000 points Squadron scale. _________________ We are the ISC! NO ONE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT IT STANDS FOR!! |
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Klingon of Gor Lieutenant SG

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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 1:55 am Post subject: |
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Ok, here are some thougts on an interesting matchup for the NCA
Klingons: Either a D5W or a D7C. Both are a little below the NCA in point value, but not by much. If you want to go rough on her, use a DWL New Command Cruiser. It outpoits the NCA a bit, and it has a LOT of reserve power, which goes for things like buying acceleration, evasive maneuvers, and overloading disruptors. To be feared.
Gorns: there are no 150 point Gorn ships, and taking a light cruiser or less up against an NCA is suicide. A Strike Cruiser or a Battlecruiser are both excellent choices. The Medium cruiser has roughly the same point value, but the weapon arcs are inferior. Use it if you want to go easy on her.
Hydran - The Dragoon heavy cruiser packs four hellbores with wide arcs, and it's a hard kill. Honestly, with a Hydran, there are MANY possibilities, as you have the question of hellbore vs fusion, and whether or not you want to take fighters along.
Kzinti - The standard battle cruiser has almost as many points as an NCA. The Command Cruiser isn't much more than a BC in the way of points, but it has double drone control, and can be a tough to face in a one on one duel. The new command cruiser hasn't got the double drone conrol, but it has a bit more power, I think.
Orion - There aren't many Orion ships that can go head to head with an NCA with a straight face. The Pirate battlecruiser can, though a lot will depend on what you put on it in the way of option mounts, your own skill and luck. Orions generally can't take a lot of damage, and the NCA has those four photon torpedo launchers...
Romulan - the King Eagle is a fairly impressive ship at 140 points. An R torp, two F torps, excellent shields, and enough power to be handled rather agressively. At 160 poits, you can have a Firehawk, which has a better phaser setup, can outturn her NCA, can take more damage than a King Eagle, and packs two S torps. _________________ "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away" - Philip K Dick |
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