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Early Years Romulan Mask/Veil/Cloak

 
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rfeceo
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:20 am    Post subject: Early Years Romulan Mask/Veil/Cloak Reply with quote

In FC, a ship with a cloaking device has a 1 impulse fade period where effective range for direct fire weapons is +4 hexes, and seeking weapons reduced warhead strength by 25%. Once cloaked, the any locked seeking weapons are reduced 50%, and direct fire weapons that hit have their damaged reduced by 50%.

Given this, how would the Romulan Early Years Mask and Veil compare?

An EY ROmulan Masking device has a very short Fade period (2 SFB impulses, so 2 FC sub-impulses) but only affects the SFB lock-on roll. THere is no damage reduction, no range penalty. Pretty lousy, for the cost in power.

The Veil has a 3 sub-impulse fade period, assumes no lock on, and adds the range penalty, but not damage modifiers.

So my guess is a FC Veil would work like a cloak without the damage reduction.

But what about the Mask?

Ideas?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't have my copy of Captain's Log #39 to hand at the moment, but does it not have rules for the veil and/or mask in it?

I know that some of the Early Years weapons that didn't make it into CL39, such as the quantum wave torpedo and plasma-V torpedo, were given provisional rules in CL39 Supplemental.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 4:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't have a copy of CL#39 - yet. :^)

It is not in the CL39 Supplemental, just purchased that and perused it - lots of useful info for our Early Years campaign, but just no info on the Mask/Veil.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't have a copy of CL#39 - yet. :^)

It is not in the CL39 Supplemental, just purchased that and perused it - lots of useful info for our Early Years campaign, but just no info on the Mask/Veil.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't do anything about the fade, so it is the same between mask/veil and cloak. The main difference is that the mask/veil (which are combined in FC) doesn't get the damage reduction, only the increase in range.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Mike!

I just want to add that I very much appreciate the work you guys do. Federation commander is an outstanding product. I also enjoy the SFB Early Years and the FC Middle Years products. Together, these make campaign games quite enjoyable as you watch the progression of ships.

Thanks again!

- Peter / rfeceo
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

on pg# 38 of CL#39: (5YP) Masking Device.

there are no rules for the "Veil Device" for FC that I have heard of. MJwest may or may not have written some.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jeffery smith wrote:
on pg# 38 of CL#39: (5YP) Masking Device.

there are no rules for the "Veil Device" for FC that I have heard of. MJwest may or may not have written some.

The Mask and Veil are the same thing in Federation Commander. It just can't handle the differences between the two, so they are just combined in Federation Commander. (Thus my reference to the Mask/Veil, rather than either independently.)
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2013 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mjwest:

sorry I was looking up the info and must have overlooked your post, my bad.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 3:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just got CL#39, and have perused the Y rules.

Question: 5YM3 states the Tholian web snare is not available, but 7YG states that the PC, PCW, NDD, and NFF do not use Early Years rules. So is the ban on snares only on other Tholian ships (CPC, PC+, FF, DD, etc), and not these four, or what is the intent?

For our purposes the issue is whether the Tholians have capability or not, and which ships, and whether newly built ships would have it available.

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is no web snare for anyone. We will make that clear if it is ever published again.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you!
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