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		| GameGater Ensign
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2022 9:02 pm    Post subject: Wondering about Book 3 - Lyrans |   |  
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				| Hi, 
 I am new to the forums and ACTASF, but not new to SFB. I have spent a few days reading many posts.  I am really interested in Lyrans for Call to Arms which I believe is suppose to be in book 3.
 
 The last post I can see about this subject is way back in September of 2019, seeing as its now September 2022 I wonder if book 3 is any closer to being released?
 
 If not, would it be possible to get a preview of the Lyran Tiger Heavy Cruiser or equivalent datasheet?
 
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		| PreetyKristina Ensign
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:13 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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 You shared a good discussion.
 The answer is clear and detailed too.
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		| Dal Downing Commander
 
  
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				|  Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2023 6:58 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Yes, we are rolling right long behind the scenes on Book 4 
 As it looks right now we should have 4 well more like 3 and a half new Empires. Lyran, Democratic Lyran Rebels, Trashcans... umm I mean, Hydran and alot of new WYNs.
 
 Weapon Systems maybe 4ish, Hellbores, Fusions, ESGs and Maulers.
 
 New Units Strike Carriers and a smaller Carrier along with 1 fighter per Empire. More will be in Reinforcement 2 when it comes out.
 
 Tony is figuring on squeezing in 300 ships. Short of jumping up and down on the book I am not sure how that is getting accomplished.
 
 All this is TENTATIVE but, seems pretty solid. We won't know for sure til after the layout is done.
 
 As far as previewing a Tiger CA I can run it up the pole and see what Tony and Steve say.
 
 As for when? That's the Million Credit question. I believe they are working on the R6 update and the Orion Master Ship Book? Next, I hope, is The Double Nickel Captain's Log. Then hopefully we are up but we will see. They have a newsletter or 2 hopefully in there as well.
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		| Dal Downing Commander
 
  
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				|  Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2023 8:46 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| That's Book THREE nor 4. _________________
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 "Which one of you is the Biggest, Baddest, Bootlicker of the bunch?"
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		| Steve Cole Site Admin
 
  
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				|  Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2023 7:08 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| May fault. I have book 3 on my computer but am only partly done with it. Too many interruptions. The big storage project took all of May, Stratcon took all of June, Covid made a mess of July, injuries took out August, even now a more recent injury means I can barely move my right arm and hand. I'll get back to work on it soon. _________________
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		| Dal Downing Commander
 
  
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				|  Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2025 2:54 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| HOT OF THE PRESSES. AL  posted an update on his work load. See if you see the tidbit that caught my eye. 
 From ADBs Boards…
 
 My Current Products:
 ACTA BK 3 - Layout is almost done. Hydrans are new so we need some artwork its a LONG list of ships.
 
 Orion MSSB: Finally ready for layout once ACTA BK3 is on to proofreading.
 
 R5 Rulebook: Unless SVC says otherwise, this is the 3rd item on my to-do list.
 
 Module TR: Waiting on some resources.
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 "Which one of you is the Biggest, Baddest, Bootlicker of the bunch?"
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				|  Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2025 4:19 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Anything with more Lyrans is a win in my book.  |  | 
	
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				|  Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2025 8:34 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Well your in luck then, Book 3 has it all. We we Have Big Cats. Slightly Smaller Cats, Domo Cats., and Exiled hiding Cats. As weĺ as Three Legged Trashcans plus, EVERYONE gets a fighters. _________________
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				|  Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2025 7:49 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I have seen parts of Book 3, including the fleet list, which is on my desk. 
 Feds: 15 or 16 ships, f18s
 Klingons 15 ships ZY
 Roms 15 ships Glad II
 Kzintis 12 ships TAAS
 Gorns 10 ships G18
 Tholians 10 ships spid II
 Orion 5 ships 8 fighters
 Seltorian 6 ships ZY
 Hydrans over 40 ships Sting 7 I mean Sting 2
 Lyrans about 40 ships ZY
 LDR about 40 ships ZY
 WYN over 30 ships ZY and Taas
 Peladine 4 ships
 Frax about 20 ships Demon IVC
 Civilian; 3 ships, defsats, ground bases
 I was counting quick and my numbers could be off by one or two
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				|  Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2025 7:50 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| If you go to my desk in the office looking for the fleet list it's on top of the pizza box under the brownie tray with Dr Pepper stains. Put it back when you're done. _________________
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		| schoon9953 Lieutenant JG
 
  
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				|  Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2025 3:53 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | Steve Cole wrote: |  	  | I have seen parts of Book 3, including the fleet list, which is on my desk. 
 Feds: 15 or 16 ships, f18s...
 
 [snipped for brevity]
 
 I was counting quick and my numbers could be off by one or two
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 That's a huge list. Wow!
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		| Steve Cole Site Admin
 
  
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				|  Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2025 7:22 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Federation Fleet List Ship Name / Designation:	ID:	Pts:
 Calahan-class Police Destroyer	PDD	75
 Langley-class Escort Carrier	FFV	100
 Takagi-class Escort Frigate	FFE	105
 Kenney-class Destroyer Escort - R	DER	115
 Scharnhorst-class Escort Cruiser	ECL	130
 Laffey-class New Escort Cruiser	NEC	130
 Sanctuary-class Hospital Ship	CLH	140
 Bosnia-class (old) Light Drone Cruiser	CLD	155
 Grozny-class New Drone Cruiser	NCD	160
 Marshall-class Advanced Technology War Destroyer	DWX	215
 Prince of Wales-class Advanced Technology Destroyer	DDX	220
 Nimitz-class Strike Carrier	CVS	220
 Byrd-class Light Carrier	CVL	230
 Bergen-class Dreadnought Tug (2 cargo pods)	DNT-2	285
 Bergen-class Dreadnought Tug (4 cargo pods)	DNT-4	310
 Einstein-class Advanced Tech Galactic Survey Cruiser	GSX	340
 FIGHTERS:
 F-18 Hornet-class Federation Fighter	F-18	12
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				|  Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2025 7:23 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| If interest continues I will post one empire's ship list each day. 
 Peladine Republic Fleet List
 Ship Class 	Designation	Point Value
 Steady-class Frigate	FF	95 pts
 Intensity-class War Destroyer 	DW	135 pts
 Secure-class War Cruiser	CW	180 pts
 Resolute-class Heavy Cruiser
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				|  Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2025 8:30 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Klingon Fleet List Ship Name / Designation:	ID:	Pts:
 E3 Nomad-class Escort 	E3	55
 G6-class Heavy Police Gunboat	G6	85
 F5E Battle Guard-class Combat Escort	F5E	120
 F5G Korl-class Commando Ship	F5G	120
 E4X Defender-class Advanced Technology Escort	E4X	135
 F5WV Axe Dueler-class Mobile Carrier	F5WV	140
 D5E Repulsor-class Escort Cruiser	D5E	140
 D6MB Sledgehammer-class Mauler Cruiser	D6MB	155
 D7V Iron Fist-class Strike Carrier	D7V	160
 D6MK Sledgehammer-class Mauler Cruiser	D6MK	165
 DC7 Klodode C-class Collared Battlecruiser	DC7	200
 D7E Inquisitor-class Survey Cruiser	D7E	210
 D5DX Dark Emperor-class Adv Tech Light Drone Cruiser	D5DX	325
 B9 Irrepressible-class Fast Battleship	B9	445
 WB10 Inevitable-class Super Battleship	WB10	665
 FIGHTERS:
 Z-Y-class Klingon Fighter	Z-Y	14
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