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malleman
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:36 am    Post subject: Lyran CA and CL Reply with quote

Does anyone know if there a differnce between the CA and the CL, or is it the same miniature?
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Scoutdad
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

without going and getting one of each out of the minis box to check...

The biggest differnece is the warp engines. The CL has a shorter engine than the CA.
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John Schneder II
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The CL is also narrower (both sides of the hull and center support), and slightly shorter as well.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aha: Just as I thought. I pulled one of each out of the minis bin and compared them.

There are a few distinct differences between the two:
The CA of course, is a CA miniature.

The CL miniature looked to have been based on a heavily modified CA mini.
The engines have indeed been shortened (to account for the different number of boxes on the diagram, one would suppose)
The two outer "pods" (for lack of a better term) have been narrowed by ~1/8-inch. On my mini, there was originally a line down the center of each pod that looked as if someone had sawn it throug hthe middle and then epoxied it back together in a narrower style. It only took a minute or two with a sanding stick to make that go away.
The only other visible difference is the removal of the center phaser mount onthe outer mid-section of each pod. The CA mounts three phasers in this position and the CL only has two.

I hope this answers your question. For a better idea as to how they look, please refer to the webpage in my signature below. There should be painted examples of all of the Lyran ships there.
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malleman
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the answers guys could not tell from the pictures. Should have used my head and checked out Scoutdad's pics first.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like John posted at the same time I did.
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mjwest
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will say that I am highly disappointed in you. You made it sound like you had a picture of a Lyran CL on your site, and you don't.

However, if you click on the "Lyran fleet" link, you will see a CA in hex 0821 and a BC in hex 0919. If you ignore the center hull of the BC and focus on the outer pylons of the BC, you will see that they are much thinner than the pylons of the CA (or of the DN in hex 1220). The outer pylons of a BC are the same as those of a CL. (Just as the outer pylons of the DN are the same as those of the CA.)

So, you can use the site to see the differences between a CL and a CA, you just can't see an actual CL.
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Scoutdad
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike, you are no more appalled than I am. I was certain that I had uploaded the pictures of my Lyran CL to the site... but obviously I hadn't.
I am leaving my office for the airport and a trip to Chicago, but rest assured that once I return, I will rectify the situation.

Malleman: I apologize for misleading you. I was mistaken in my suggestion to check the images on my site. I have indeed painted a couple of CL's but have yet to upload them. I will upload them this weekend, so check back then. Embarassed
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djdood
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shame on you Tony. Bad miniman. Bad.

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Sneaky Scot
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And for a brief second I thought "I've got a miniature that Scoutdad doesn't have, and Scoutdad has more miniatures than anyone" (except Chuck Norris obviously).

Now I shall return to my life of small dreams, crushed once more....
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Under Chuck Norris' beard, there isn't a chin; it's a B-10 mini ready for an alpha-strike.
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Scoutdad
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know about Chuck Norris' beard... but I do now have a photo of a Lyran CL up... as well as I comparison photo of a CA and a CL side by side:

Lyran CL

Lyran CA vs. CL
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malleman
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 4:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the pics Scoutdad.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking good (as usual) Scoutdad!
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