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Jean
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 12:48 pm    Post subject: Federation War Destroyer (DW) Reply with quote

SVC wrote: This is Sandrine's Fed DW. We have no idea where she put the shuttle hatch.

top



side



front



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above and behind



above front



Feedback is appreciated.
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Aabh
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's cool!

I'm sort of new to this whole thing, but I don't get the difference between the "two on top, one on bottom" of the cruisers and the "two on bottom, one on top" of the Frigates, and the "a mix of all of the above" of the Destroyers (Isn't the War Destroyer a two on bottom one on top or am I mistaken?)... is there a pattern to this? (Said non-challengingly, I'm genuinely curious). Smile
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phdillman
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice!

Would like a size comparison view to the NCL and NCA.

Also see my comment on the NCA, I think it applies here too.

@Aabh: The difference stems from the original hull designs. The old SL2200 FF had two engines under the saucer and the NCL had them above.

The NCA and the DW are "based' off the NCL hull design, were's the FFB is based off the FF hull.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have a comment about this ship, make it (in this topic).

Saying "see the comment I made somewhere else about something else" means you get ignored because I am NOT going to hunt down your comment. If the comment applies to THIS ship then make the comment in THIS topic.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now to me the late GW ships can use some deviation of the clasic design to bring out that WOW factor that Mongoose is looking for. To wit, the small secondary hull and engine mount could be made larger, maybe even use that superstructure from the first draft of the CC on the bottom of the saucer and mount the third engine to that.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really like the way this looks. I am growing impatient for the day these are released!
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will this mini be smaller than the NCA? If not, I'd like to recommend that it is, since it looks (From a distance, and with my old eyes) awfully similar (Hence the question about nacelles on top/bottom). I liked the fact that the FF's were reversed and the DDW was reversed because then it was very visually different from a distance.

Physically, I like the look of this mini, it's very pretty! I am too new to the game to actually give any advice on weapons placement.

I am also looking forward to getting my hands on these ships, they are beautiful! Smile
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ctchapel
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only changes I would make are:

move the FH phasers one deck lower,

enlarge the dorsal engine strut, as this needs to work for HDW as well,

place the shuttle bay doors between the upper engines,

I like it overall.
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Scoutdad
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aabh wrote:
Will this mini be smaller than the NCA? If not, I'd like to recommend that it is, since it looks (From a distance, and with my old eyes) awfully similar (Hence the question about nacelles on top/bottom).


I'm not at home right now, so I an't measure to give exact tolerances but, IIRC:
The ST2400 DW miniature is about 2/3's the size of hte NCA miniature.
This relationship should carry over into the ST2500 range, so the difference in size should be distinct even from across the gaming table.
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djdood
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My comments are all over on the legacy bbs.

For the benefit of those folks here that aren't there, here's the two pictures I put together with scaling and features markups -

NCA vs. DW Scaling Drawing

DW Features Markup Drawing
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really like it. The only comment I have is that the lower rear arc of the ship (in 3D) is a huge phaser blind spot. If one LS phaser and one RS phaser were moved to the bottom of the saucer then that would cover the blind spot.

Of course this has absolutely no effect on the 2D firing arcs or the game in any way.

(This is the same comment I made on Facebook regarding the NCL and DW.)
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Aabh
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scoutdad wrote:
Aabh wrote:
Will this mini be smaller than the NCA? If not, I'd like to recommend that it is, since it looks (From a distance, and with my old eyes) awfully similar (Hence the question about nacelles on top/bottom).


I'm not at home right now, so I an't measure to give exact tolerances but, IIRC:
The ST2400 DW miniature is about 2/3's the size of hte NCA miniature.
This relationship should carry over into the ST2500 range, so the difference in size should be distinct even from across the gaming table.


Excellent! That should suffice (Even for my old eyes) Thank you Scoutdad!
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