Stingers in Bulk

TJolley · Post by **TJolley** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 6:31 pm

There could be a couple of fun scenarios in there where Hydrans send off a deep strike Stinger raid against Klingon Mining colonies, some convoys, maybe a mobile base or a Base station, etc

I don't see lone Stingers as a 'tactic' though, because as stated, being limited to speed 16, and typically facing Klingons, Stingers will never be able to close the range and will be eaten alive by long range fire.

pinecone · Post by **pinecone** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:33 pm

But that draws fire from the capitol ship.

junior · Post by **junior** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:42 pm

pinecone wrote:But that draws fire from the capitol ship.

Fire that would otherwise go where?

The entire point of this is a scenario in which the Hydran side is composed of nothing but Stingers. What else is the capitol ship going to shoot at?

pinecone · Post by **pinecone** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:53 pm

TJolley wrote:I don't see lone Stingers as a 'tactic' though, because as stated, being limited to speed 16, and typically facing Klingons, Stingers will never be able to close the range and will be eaten alive by long range fire.

I was stating that the stingers could just be used as dummies, in fleet action.

TJolley · Post by **TJolley** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:46 pm

pinecone wrote:I was stating that the stingers could just be used as dummies, in fleet action.

Huh? That makes no sense..as they would BE the Fleet

pinecone · Post by **pinecone** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:55 pm

A fleet action with capitol ships. i misunderstood the original statement.

Scoutdad · Post by **Scoutdad** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:07 pm

The original statement:

wrote:could I just buy a fleet of Stingers without Capital Ships? (Not saying I would, but you never know...)

Todd is correct. If you bought a fleet of Stingers in lieu of capital ships, they would be the fleet and would be the only thing the base could fire it's phaser-4's at.

Boy, can you imagine how frustrating it would be to have to fire a range 12 phaser-4 at a single Stinger!

pinecone · Post by **pinecone** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:21 pm

But the stinger could never close the range, or Die.

Scoutdad · Post by **Scoutdad** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:41 pm

Which is why you'd have to send them against a fixed or slow moving target, like a Base Station or a supply convoy.

pinecone · Post by **pinecone** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:57 pm

i wouldn't use them against a base station, but a supply convoy might work.

Bolo_MK_XL · Post by **Bolo_MK_XL** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:25 pm

The only scenario I could see as an honest "Stinger only" fleet action would be planetary defense --
As stated, with a speed of 16, can't see them being very effective even in that instance --

TJolley · Post by **TJolley** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:41 pm

pinecone wrote:But the stinger could never close the range, or Die.

Are you kidding me? I'd go on EM, and close to point blank range, come off of EM and vaporize the Star Base.

At Fleet Scale, you are talking what 35 Stingers at Fleet Scale.(don't have the SB card Handy)

so the base Kills 10-12 ..I will still have about 25 Stingers..so 100 P-3's and 25 Fusion Beams..that's what..400-450 points of damage..Dead base..even half that number of stingers..still a dead base.

TJolley · Post by **TJolley** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:43 pm

Bolo_MK_XL wrote:The only scenario I could see as an honest "Stinger only" fleet action would be planetary defense --
As stated, with a speed of 16, can't see them being very effective even in that instance --

that or a minig colony raid, or a fleet supply train interdiction..but very limited uses.

I could also see a scenario where a patrol comes across the carrier fleet while the Stingers are off on their mission..could be a cool scenario too. Also an Excuse to get teh Uhlan or Cavalier carriers into the game

pinecone · Post by **pinecone** » Tue Jun 24, 2008 12:05 pm

TJolley wrote:
pinecone wrote:But the stinger could never close the range, or Die.
Are you kidding me? I'd go on EM, and close to point blank range, come off of EM and vaporize the Star Base.

At Fleet Scale, you are talking what 35 Stingers at Fleet Scale.(don't have the SB card Handy)

so the base Kills 10-12 ..I will still have about 25 Stingers..so 100 P-3's and 25 Fusion Beams..that's what..400-450 points of damage..Dead base..even half that number of stingers..still a dead base.

I didn't know that stingers Could EM.

TJolley · Post by **TJolley** » Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:16 pm

pinecone wrote:I didn't know that stingers Could EM.

Read the fighter rules again then

They can EM and HET