CA refits...

Ben · Post by **Ben** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 6:08 pm

What refits would everyone's favorite TV starship have? I'm thinking it's a Fed CA with no refits.

Post by **Steve Cole** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 6:43 pm

One episode mentions the rear phasers (which is why we have a rear phaser refit).

Nerroth · Post by **Nerroth** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 6:50 pm

Shame they went a bit overboard with the Defiant, as portrayed in the later episode In a Mirror, Darkly - but then, it's beyond the remit, anyway.

(Maybe it had some kind of experimental weapons fit, for some reason, all the same.)

mjwest · Post by **mjwest** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 10:45 pm

In SFB-speak, and given the rear phasers, that would make it a CAR. In FC, that means you delete the Reactors, Ph-3s, and Drone rack.

Ben · Post by **Ben** » Sun Aug 24, 2008 4:13 am

Thanks guys! I'm trying to get a set of "on-screen" specific SSDs.

I'm assuming the Klingon cruisers are unrefitted D6s?

DrFaustus · Post by **DrFaustus** » Sun Aug 24, 2008 9:35 am

D7's I would have thought, I am pretty sure thats where the Dx desginations came from.

Vanguard · Post by **Vanguard** » Sun Aug 24, 2008 1:54 pm

Ben wrote:What refits woud everyone's favorite TV starship have? I'm thinking it's a Fed CA with no refits.

Pretty much a CA, with two boxes on the aft secondary hull for a rear phaser. Opinion is divided if it should also have an aft photon torpedo launcher (ala the DS9 defiant).

mjwest · Post by **mjwest** » Sun Aug 24, 2008 2:47 pm

Ben wrote:Thanks guys! I'm trying to get a set of "on-screen" specific SSDs.

I'm assuming the Klingon cruisers are unrefitted D6s?

There is no real indication on what they are, since we never really saw them use weapons, so we don't have any real context to figure out which it should be.

From the game perspective, the intention is that the on-screen Klingon ship is an unrefitted D7, and the on-screen Romulan ships are a Warbird (not War Eagle, but Warbird, which is not in FC) and an unrefitted KR.

Ben · Post by **Ben** » Sun Aug 24, 2008 3:02 pm

Thanks Mike! I'll use the D7 then, and might convert a Warbird to FC if I can find the SSD. I'm still hoping for some offical Middle Years stuff for FC but it looks like that might be a while...

OGOPTIMUS · Post by **OGOPTIMUS** » Sun Aug 24, 2008 4:08 pm

Ben wrote:Thanks Mike! I'll use the D7 then, and might convert a Warbird to FC if I can find the SSD. I'm still hoping for some offical Middle Years stuff for FC but it looks like that might be a while...

FYI the Warbird is in Basic Set. When fully refitted (WB+), it's a War Eagle without warp power and phaser-3s.

Nerroth · Post by **Nerroth** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:45 am

mjwest wrote:In SFB-speak, and given the rear phasers, that would make it a CAR. In FC, that means you delete the Reactors, Ph-3s, and Drone rack.

But the Defiant as portrayed in In a Mirror, Darkly had rear-firing torpedo launchers, too - and seemed to fire a lot of torps in fairly rapid succession.

But again, that series is beyond the remit, in any event.

mjwest · Post by **mjwest** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:58 am

Nerroth wrote:But the Defiant as portrayed in In a Mirror, Darkly had rear-firing torpedo launchers, too - and seemed to fire a lot of torps in fairly rapid succession.

I don't even know what In a Mirror, Darkly is. If it isn't TOS or TAS (which it isn't), then it doesn't matter. All of that is beyond the scope of the SFU.

Nerroth · Post by **Nerroth** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 12:07 pm

mjwest wrote:
Nerroth wrote:But the Defiant as portrayed in In a Mirror, Darkly had rear-firing torpedo launchers, too - and seemed to fire a lot of torps in fairly rapid succession.
I don't even know what In a Mirror, Darkly is. If it isn't TOS or TAS (which it isn't), then it doesn't matter. All of that is beyond the scope of the SFU.

It's a two-parter from season 4 of Star Trek: Enterprise - meant to indicate where the Defiant went to, after the events of the TOS episode The Tholian Web.

It even includes a battle where the ship takes on what would be the equivalent of the racial Fed National Guard ships. Didn't go too well for the latter, however.

Ravenhull · Post by **Ravenhull** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 9:09 pm

I haven't seen that one yet. Just out of curiosity, did they show where on the hull the aft tubes were?

bobrunnicles · Post by **bobrunnicles** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 9:15 pm

Which as Nerroth indicates makes this an interesting conundrum (of sorts) of an episode - although it not Classic or TAS, it directly ties in with a Classic episode (as mentioned, The Tholian Web) and uses elements from that within the story - primarily the Defiant, but also uniforms, hand phasers etc. It kicks butt because it's 'future tech' compared to the Enterprise-era stuff.

Fourth season Enterprise was really turning out to be good stuff before the show got canned, lots of tie-ins with the original show along the lines of what was promised but not delivered on during the first 2-3 years. The example of Peter Weller watching 'historic' video footage of Colonel Green (first referenced in the TOS episode 'The Savage Curtain') was awesome

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