Tugs

ericphillips · Post by **ericphillips** » Tue May 12, 2009 1:25 pm

Have there been any releases for Tugs and Battletugs for FC?

mjwest · Post by **mjwest** » Tue May 12, 2009 1:47 pm

Recent Communiques have the Fed Tug and a couple LTTs. One of the most recent Captain's Logs (I forget which) has four LTTs, too.

No battletugs. There is currently some serious doubt as to whether battletugs will make it into FC. Right now, tugs (and LTTs) just carry cargo pods.

[Edit: Also, this is not a rules question. I have moved it to General.]

Post by **Steve Cole** » Tue May 12, 2009 1:55 pm

Correct. FC tugs/LTTs are cargo only. No battletugs in FC. EVER.

Post by **Steve Cole** » Tue May 12, 2009 1:55 pm

(Moves battletug card back a few issues of Comm schedule so people can forget I said that.)

Ravenhull · Post by **Ravenhull** » Tue May 12, 2009 2:40 pm

Steve Cole wrote:(Moves battletug card back a few issues of Comm schedule so people can forget I said that.)

If anything comes up that contradicts your statements, we will simply assume that the board software mangled your original posts and that current realities were what you really meant.

Mike · Post by **Mike** » Tue May 12, 2009 5:13 pm

Battletug in FC! Oh, boy! Now we'll get to play the famous Fed-Gorn battle that almost happened!

pinecone · Post by **pinecone** » Wed May 13, 2009 12:42 am

Well, BoM isn't technically FC, right. So that ups the chance even more

!

jeffery smith · Post by **jeffery smith** » Wed May 13, 2009 5:03 am

no battletugs (please

) but for those who want them enjoy what may come. as for SVC's comment that must have been the anti-SVC.

Starfury · Post by **Starfury** » Wed May 13, 2009 4:57 pm

The reason there won't be battletugs is because there will be carrier tugs instead.

For all the races.

jeffery smith · Post by **jeffery smith** » Wed May 13, 2009 7:03 pm

personnelly this is one of thoses things from SFB that always bugged me. if battletugs or carriertugs or any other combat version of a tug is equal to or much better than the true warship then why spend the funds for carriers and battleships or cruisers when tugs would be just as good at a cheaper price. tugs are tugs ,they are not for combat which is why i have been against there inclusion. that said i have no objection to them in Communique or BoM.

terryoc · Post by **terryoc** » Wed May 13, 2009 7:59 pm

So can I hope to see the B10T super-heavy tug with battle pods?

Mike · Post by **Mike** » Thu May 14, 2009 2:26 am

Two points about battle tugs.

1. I thought they pre-dated any dreadnoughts in SFB (at least, the early Commander's Edition that I used).

2. They were not supposed to be permanent ships on duty. The battle pod(s) were kept at some starbases in mothballs only to be hard-attached to a tug when an admiral needed a ship with those heavy weapons in a fleet he was commanding. Even then, the attachment process would have to take awhile to complete.

This is why I have problems with Federation Commander's theme of "no history." Some things are just easier to explain with some history behind them.

Perhaps BoM?

Dal Downing · Post by **Dal Downing** » Thu May 14, 2009 4:21 am

Like Mike said. From everything I have been able to gather on Battle Pods and Carrier Pods they are not intended to make a Tug the equal of a Dreadnaught or a Heavy Carrier. They are intended to be used when things go really really bad. Like when the Klingons wreck one of your CVAs

and then your accidentally drop another one in to the atmosphere of Romulus and it goes boom.

Original I was very much anti Battle Tug but the more I think about it the more I reallies.... what the heck... everyone got a Battleship after all.

But before/if we see a Battle Tug could we please see Tugs with Self Defence Pods.

ericphillips · Post by **ericphillips** » Thu May 14, 2009 4:24 am

Mike wrote:Two points about battle tugs.

1. I thought they pre-dated any dreadnoughts in SFB (at least, the early Commander's Edition that I used).

2. They were not supposed to be permanent ships on duty. The battle pod(s) were kept at some starbases in mothballs only to be hard-attached to a tug when an admiral needed a ship with those heavy weapons in a fleet he was commanding. Even then, the attachment process would have to take awhile to complete.

This is why I have problems with Federation Commander's theme of "no history." Some things are just easier to explain with some history behind them.

Perhaps BoM?

Yeah, I dont mind the history part. I do like the Middle Years ideas, and look forward to other "Era" books. They simplify it: just grab the card for the era and you are set. No extra boxes that are not used cluttering. Keep the rules changes simple.

I havent bought briefing 1 yet, but I am trying out the CA from Communique 41. Dont want to get an enemy behind that ship!!!! LOL