I note that Rule (6B2e) say that evading ships take higher asteroid damage.
Could I please suggest that in the next rulebook this point is also placed in the Evasive Maneuvers (2D4) section of the rules as well, under 'limitations', as it is not presently listed there?
Indeed, (2D4c) seems to imply that '...terrain-induced effects are not affected' by evasive maneuvering - which presumably does not include asteroids?
Evasive maneuvering and asteroids - clarification
Moderators: mjwest, Albiegamer
Along the same lines...
I recently had to find every rule about landing and taking off for shuttles. This included to/from ships and to/from planets.
If memory serves, I believe it required looking in 3 different sections, but it may have been more. I ended up typing all the pertinent rules to fit on one sheet of paper and printing it for quick reference during a game.
No one wants a rulebook that lists the same rules over and over again, but I'm wondering if there is some other way to do this?
I recently had to find every rule about landing and taking off for shuttles. This included to/from ships and to/from planets.
If memory serves, I believe it required looking in 3 different sections, but it may have been more. I ended up typing all the pertinent rules to fit on one sheet of paper and printing it for quick reference during a game.
No one wants a rulebook that lists the same rules over and over again, but I'm wondering if there is some other way to do this?
Mike
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Sandpaper gets the job done, but makes for a lot of friction.
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Sandpaper gets the job done, but makes for a lot of friction.
Rather than retype all the rules, I suggest putting references. For example...
XX.X) For effects of Asteriods while using Evasive Manuevers, see rule XX.X.
I suggest putting rules for asteriods and EM into the asteriod rule. My thinking is that, asteriods aren't used as often as EM. Since you'd only need to worry about the rule if asteriods are used, it's sort of an "exception rule" rather than a general rule. That's why I suggest putting them in the asteriod section.
XX.X) For effects of Asteriods while using Evasive Manuevers, see rule XX.X.
I suggest putting rules for asteriods and EM into the asteriod rule. My thinking is that, asteriods aren't used as often as EM. Since you'd only need to worry about the rule if asteriods are used, it's sort of an "exception rule" rather than a general rule. That's why I suggest putting them in the asteriod section.
Speed is life; Patience is victory
No, absolutely. I know that's what you do and a great job of it you do too. This is why I point these things out; not rules problems as such, like contradictions, clarity etc., but minor tweaks that would make things easier - as I know you appreciatemjwest wrote:FWIW, I have tried to make sure references were added in the manner DNordeen suggests. Several were added for the Rev5 Reference Rulebook. But these sections weren't part of those requests because they had not yet been asked about ...
Re: Evasive maneuvering and asteroids - clarification
I agree that (2D4) needs a cross-reference to (6B2e).Kang wrote:I note that Rule (6B2e) say that evading ships take higher asteroid damage.
Could I please suggest that in the next rulebook this point is also placed in the Evasive Maneuvers (2D4) section of the rules as well, under 'limitations', as it is not presently listed there?
Indeed, (2D4c) seems to imply that '...terrain-induced effects are not affected' by evasive maneuvering - which presumably does not include asteroids?
However, there is no contradiction for (2D4c)! (2D4c) specifically lists the benefits of Evasive Maneuvers. As such, the ship gains no benefits against terrain effects by using Evasive Maneuvers. That it actually has a harmful effect in one case is irrelevant to (2D4c).
Federation Commander Answer Guy
I can see it now....
Capt: Manuever evasively, we're going to have to outsmart this guy.
Ensign: Aye aye, sir. Manuevering evasively.
XO: Capt, he's closing on us. He'll be in range shortly.
Capt: Damn, head for the asteroid field
Ensign: Aye aye, sir. Entering the asteriods
Capt (thinking) Hmm...there's gotta be a way I can get back the initiaitive. Wait, why does that asteriod seem to be moving randomly all over our course. It's getting closer, too...OH @#@#
Capt: ENSIGN! STOP MANUEVERING EVASIVELY.
[BOOM]
XO: Sir, we've taken damage on the forward shield. Damage Control is surveying the damage.
Capt: Manuever evasively, we're going to have to outsmart this guy.
Ensign: Aye aye, sir. Manuevering evasively.
XO: Capt, he's closing on us. He'll be in range shortly.
Capt: Damn, head for the asteroid field
Ensign: Aye aye, sir. Entering the asteriods
Capt (thinking) Hmm...there's gotta be a way I can get back the initiaitive. Wait, why does that asteriod seem to be moving randomly all over our course. It's getting closer, too...OH @#@#
Capt: ENSIGN! STOP MANUEVERING EVASIVELY.
[BOOM]
XO: Sir, we've taken damage on the forward shield. Damage Control is surveying the damage.
Speed is life; Patience is victory