Older castings of the miniatures

philgore · Post by **philgore** » Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:33 am

Would it be possible to get castings of the older 2200 minis from ADB?

I'm keen to get a half dozen or more of the original Fed Light Cruisers and Gorn ships. The newer models are OK, but the warp engines mounted on the hull just don't work for me. Forgive me, but I'm a noob and love the detail of the older models that I've managed to scrounge up.

Just wondering.

terryoc · Post by **terryoc** » Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:48 pm

From ADB? I'd say almost certainly no. I'm pretty sure they don't have any left, and the probability of new ones being made is almost certainly nil. Unless you're willing to write a check for a few grand for the things to be made

Your best bet would be eBay or other players who would be willing to sell/swap you some of the older ones. Or kitbash your own.

SWO_Daddy · Post by **SWO_Daddy** » Thu Dec 31, 2009 1:46 pm

Old Gorn DNs are still available on the cart:
http://store.starfleetstore.com/merchan ... ry_Code=GM

Once upon a time, ADB made the old multi-piece Gorns available, but my impression was that was a one time thing. I think the old DNs are all that's left from that little experiment. The only other 2200-series ship that is clearly a "throwback" is the Fed CVO:
http://store.starfleetstore.com/merchan ... ry_Code=FM

I too prefer the old multi-piece OCL, but SVC and company have been pretty adament that they didn't intend to go back to multi-piece items if it all possible. I'm also not sure there is enough demand out there for ADB to maintain two different minis for the same ship.

philgore · Post by **philgore** » Thu Dec 31, 2009 2:12 pm

Thanks for the quick reply guys!

I saw the repro of the Gorn DN and that was what got me looking into the older kits. Ebay and trading forums have been kind to me, so I've acquired quite a few 2200 models, but the OCL kits are frustratingly rare so far. If the original molds are still around, I'd pay a premium for a few spins of OCL's and several other such models.

Perhaps there is a market out there for higher cost limited production runs of the more detailed kits? Based on the competition I've had getting 2200 kits, it is doubtful I'm the only one out there looking for such things.

Post by **Steve Cole** » Thu Dec 31, 2009 4:36 pm

Well, here's the thing...

1. The old molds might or might not still exist. If not, there is no practical way for the ships to be recreated. It would cost hundreds of dollars and a lot of my time, and I have no time.

2. Let's assume that the molds still exist. (You might assume that the data below applies to any of the old ships.)

A: First, you have to get Mike Sparks (the customer service guy who also runs the warehouse) to find them, if they exist. (Let's assume that you ask him next week when it's not a howling blizzard out there.) His email is Support@StarFleetGames.com and just maybe he'd be willing to go look for them. Let's assume that this takes $20 worth of employee time. Mike probably won't go look for them without Leanna signing off on the time-cost. If you offer to pay Leanna (Sales@StarFleetGames.com) for the time cost (and remember that you might pay for Mike's time only to get a report that he has determined that the molds no longer exist).

B. He'd have to ship them to Bruce. Cost of shipping might be $15 or so. I'm not really sure. Leanna would have to approve the cost.

C. Now, let's assume that the old molds "still work" to some extent. Bruce spins a few and sends them back.

D. Leanna then has to assign a special code number for them and she has to mess with the computer to make it sell them. Hey, if she went along with A and B, it's a sure thing.

So, it could happen. One trick to this is you pretty much have to make it happen without involving me, since (due to the massive number of things on my "to do" list) I'll either never get a chance to do it or I'll get halfway through it, get interrupted, find the molds laying on my back table in my office a year from now and ask Mike why they're there. (Just the reality of dealing with the onset of alzheimers.)

Ok, I'm trying to be funny, but if you want it to happen, talk to Leanna and see if she'll agree to let Mike hunt for them.

bluebirds38 · Post by **bluebirds38** » Thu Dec 31, 2009 10:15 pm

philgore, ebay is your best bet, i recently won on ebay old gorn heavy cruiser, old gorn light cruiser, two gorn heavy cruiser from starfleet elite, which i use as fast patrol ships, i also have a lot of old 2200 ships, i like the detail, i also just won an old 2200 klingon c-8 and four d-7 four piece, that works out, i'm going to use them to kit bash a b-8 and fast d-7.

philgore · Post by **philgore** » Fri Jan 01, 2010 4:44 pm

Thanks Steve. I understand the difficulty of what I'm asking and appreciate your excellent reply. Leanna will be hearing from me shortly.

Dan Ibekwe · Post by **Dan Ibekwe** » Fri Jan 01, 2010 7:23 pm

I'd be interested in this, too; particularly in any early multi-part Kznti ships, Fed oCLs or klingon D-7s (just the main hull, really, as I've got a stack of spare booms and engines).

Drop me a PM if you want a contribution to the search cost.

SWO_Daddy · Post by **SWO_Daddy** » Fri Jan 01, 2010 8:03 pm

Top of my list would be the Fed OCL, with multi-piece Klingon D7s as a second place.

More of the old Gorns would be great to see, but I personally have plenty, so no sales there for me. Multi-peice Kzintis would only be of interest as kitbash starters...that is one place I definately prefer the newer 1-2 piece minis.

djdood · Post by **djdood** » Fri Jan 01, 2010 8:50 pm

There was a previous effort spearheaded by scoutdad (Tony Thomas) to get some people together to pre-pay and fund a new short-run of 4-piece Klingons D-7's, but it never got off the ground. If that comes to pass, I'd still be interested.

Scoutdad · Post by **Scoutdad** » Fri Jan 01, 2010 9:36 pm

djdood wrote:There was a previous effort spearheaded by scoutdad (Tony Thomas) to get some people together to pre-pay and fund a new short-run of 4-piece Klingons D-7's, but it never got off the ground. If that comes to pass, I'd still be interested.

Will, email inbound...

OGOPTIMUS · Post by **OGOPTIMUS** » Sat Jan 02, 2010 1:19 am

I would like to see the old 4 piece D7s. And I'd be interested in buying too.

Scoutdad · Post by **Scoutdad** » Sat Jan 02, 2010 4:19 am

I have contacted Leanna about the old D7 molds. She is going to have Mike check to see if the mold exists and then let me know if casting of these is possible.

If anyone reading this is interested in some new, "old" D7's - please let me know either via PM or Email (to prevent clogging this forum). Once Leanna lets me know if it's even possible, I'll let her know how many of us are interested and the approximate number of D7s we're interested in nad then pass along any info she imparts to me.

Tony

Post by **Steve Cole** » Sat Jan 02, 2010 3:57 pm

If Leanna is willing to send Mike looking for the D7s, it would take no more work for him to find both D7s and OCLs.

philgore · Post by **philgore** » Fri Jan 22, 2010 4:50 am

Has the warehouse warmed up enough for Mike to go look for the molds?