Federation War Destroyer (DW)

Post by **Jean** » Tue Sep 13, 2011 12:48 pm

SVC wrote: This is Sandrine's Fed DW. We have no idea where she put the shuttle hatch.

top

side

front

below

above and behind

above front

Feedback is appreciated.

Aabh · Post by **Aabh** » Tue Sep 13, 2011 1:14 pm

I think it's cool!

I'm sort of new to this whole thing, but I don't get the difference between the "two on top, one on bottom" of the cruisers and the "two on bottom, one on top" of the Frigates, and the "a mix of all of the above" of the Destroyers (Isn't the War Destroyer a two on bottom one on top or am I mistaken?)... is there a pattern to this? (Said non-challengingly, I'm genuinely curious).

phdillman · Post by **phdillman** » Tue Sep 13, 2011 2:54 pm

Nice!

Would like a size comparison view to the NCL and NCA.

Also see my comment on the NCA, I think it applies here too.

@Aabh: The difference stems from the original hull designs. The old SL2200 FF had two engines under the saucer and the NCL had them above.

The NCA and the DW are "based' off the NCL hull design, were's the FFB is based off the FF hull.

Post by **Steve Cole** » Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:26 pm

If you have a comment about this ship, make it (in this topic).

Saying "see the comment I made somewhere else about something else" means you get ignored because I am NOT going to hunt down your comment. If the comment applies to THIS ship then make the comment in THIS topic.

phdillman · Post by **phdillman** » Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:37 pm

Now to me the late GW ships can use some deviation of the clasic design to bring out that WOW factor that Mongoose is looking for. To wit, the small secondary hull and engine mount could be made larger, maybe even use that superstructure from the first draft of the CC on the bottom of the saucer and mount the third engine to that.

Darkwing · Post by **Darkwing** » Tue Sep 13, 2011 3:42 pm

I really like the way this looks. I am growing impatient for the day these are released!

Aabh · Post by **Aabh** » Tue Sep 13, 2011 5:44 pm

Will this mini be smaller than the NCA? If not, I'd like to recommend that it is, since it looks (From a distance, and with my old eyes) awfully similar (Hence the question about nacelles on top/bottom). I liked the fact that the FF's were reversed and the DDW was reversed because then it was very visually different from a distance.

Physically, I like the look of this mini, it's very pretty! I am too new to the game to actually give any advice on weapons placement.

I am also looking forward to getting my hands on these ships, they are beautiful!

ctchapel · Post by **ctchapel** » Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:51 pm

The only changes I would make are:

move the FH phasers one deck lower,

enlarge the dorsal engine strut, as this needs to work for HDW as well,

place the shuttle bay doors between the upper engines,

I like it overall.

Scoutdad · Post by **Scoutdad** » Tue Sep 13, 2011 7:08 pm

Aabh wrote:Will this mini be smaller than the NCA? If not, I'd like to recommend that it is, since it looks (From a distance, and with my old eyes) awfully similar (Hence the question about nacelles on top/bottom).

I'm not at home right now, so I an't measure to give exact tolerances but, IIRC:
The ST2400 DW miniature is about 2/3's the size of hte NCA miniature.
This relationship should carry over into the ST2500 range, so the difference in size should be distinct even from across the gaming table.

djdood · Post by **djdood** » Tue Sep 13, 2011 7:49 pm

My comments are all over on the legacy bbs.

For the benefit of those folks here that aren't there, here's the two pictures I put together with scaling and features markups -

NCA vs. DW Scaling Drawing

DW Features Markup Drawing

marcus_aurelius · Post by **marcus_aurelius** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 1:35 am

I really like it. The only comment I have is that the lower rear arc of the ship (in 3D) is a huge phaser blind spot. If one LS phaser and one RS phaser were moved to the bottom of the saucer then that would cover the blind spot.

Of course this has absolutely no effect on the 2D firing arcs or the game in any way.

(This is the same comment I made on Facebook regarding the NCL and DW.)

Aabh · Post by **Aabh** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 1:33 pm

Scoutdad wrote:
Aabh wrote:Will this mini be smaller than the NCA? If not, I'd like to recommend that it is, since it looks (From a distance, and with my old eyes) awfully similar (Hence the question about nacelles on top/bottom).
I'm not at home right now, so I an't measure to give exact tolerances but, IIRC:
The ST2400 DW miniature is about 2/3's the size of hte NCA miniature.
This relationship should carry over into the ST2500 range, so the difference in size should be distinct even from across the gaming table.

Excellent! That should suffice (Even for my old eyes) Thank you Scoutdad!