Worst ever

Spacecowboy87 · Post by **Spacecowboy87** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 4:53 am

Spent the whole day watching a Trek marathon on HBO (movies 1-6) while playing FC. My wife and I spent the day arguing this topic-- who is the WORST KLINGON EVER? So far, the front runner is the captain in ST5.
ST5 has the worst ever lots of things.

ncrcalamine · Post by **ncrcalamine** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:12 am

I always thought the Klingon agent in trouble with trebles was pretty close to the worst Klingon ever.

There are some pretty bad Klingons in several of the follow on series

Nicole

jmt · Post by **jmt** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 2:16 pm

Worf - simply because for most of TNG he was used as a punching bag whenever the writers wanted to show how tough the Alien of the Week (tm) was.

<rant on>
In general, the TNG Klingons with their "honor" schtick remind me more of Niven's Kzinti in his Known Space series than they do of the TOS Klingons. Of the two, the later is a real threat to the Federation.
<rant off>

archon96 · Post by **archon96** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 2:52 pm

the klingon captain in st1 was the worst, not even a enough sense to run away from the bright sparkling ball of energy.

Sllarr · Post by **Sllarr** » Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:54 pm

Captain Nu'Daq , from TNG episode "The Chase", wins hands down in my opinion. Simply ridiculous.

jeffery smith · Post by **jeffery smith** » Tue Feb 14, 2012 1:18 am

all of st 5 sucked except for the gorgous shot of the Enterprise with the full moon behind her. As for worst Klingon, take your pick of most of the TNG Samurai style Klingons. the Duras sisters were probably the worst of the lot.

djdood · Post by **djdood** » Tue Feb 14, 2012 1:51 am

Ew. Even that shot in ST:V was bad.

It makes for a lovely still-image. However, the production had a bunch of scheduling snafus and none of the A-list FX houses had time available to do the effects. They ended up being done by a house that just didn't know how to do feature-quality motion-control photography (or at least couldn't with the shoe-string budget that was available).

It's why the space shots in TV:5 all look "off" - the depth of field is not the same as the other films, there isn't parallax-shift on moving ship scenes, etc.

Not to mention a lot of really bad design decisions; the new, smaller shuttlebay (to allow for a cheaper set), the ridiculous periscope/swivel-chair on the Bird of Prey, etc.

Given the issues with the non-tech portions of ST:V, I try to pretend it never happened...

Kang · Post by **Kang** » Tue Feb 14, 2012 2:11 pm

archon96 wrote:the klingon captain in st1 was the worst, not even a enough sense to run away from the bright sparkling ball of energy.

....and he was played by the legendary Mark Lenard, who also played Spock's father Sarek, and the Romulan Commander in TOS episode Balance of Terror.

Scoutdad · Post by **Scoutdad** » Tue Feb 14, 2012 2:18 pm

And don't forget... Mark Lenard was also General Urko in the series, Planet of the Apes!

[EDIT] Edited to correct spelling!

Savedfromwhat · Post by **Savedfromwhat** » Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:12 pm

You correct someone for pace palm SD and then you perform the greatest faux pas ever, calling yourself a star trek fan and then spelling Mark Lenard's name wrong... Shun.

Scoutdad · Post by **Scoutdad** » Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:48 pm

That's what happens when you have an employee named Leonard and you write that down every day of the week. It gets ingrained.

Plus, it gives everyone here something to chuckle over.

Savedfromwhat · Post by **Savedfromwhat** » Tue Feb 14, 2012 4:21 pm

Oh man you edited it now my post just looks weird. ;P
/unshun

Klingon of Gor · Post by **Klingon of Gor** » Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:38 pm

Worst Klingon ever? Well, first of all, the Klingons lost something when they went to the turtle face makeup. The old Klingons were like Mongol warlords with warp technology. They were enemies to be feared, and respected. At some point, they went from being warlords to being like professional wrestlers. The TNG Klingons were never smart enough to have been a threat to the Federation. But worst ever? After Reverend Jim as a Klingon, I could never quite take them seriously again, so I guess he's my least favorite.

djdood · Post by **djdood** » Wed Feb 15, 2012 4:04 pm

"Louie! Give me Genesis!!!"

kinshi · Post by **kinshi** » Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:11 pm

Maltz (John Laroquette in STIII), I find him worse the Rev. Jim because he gave up way too easy and was too dumb to double check the life sign readings to see that he was transporting humans aboard with no Klingons.

B'elanna Torres from Voyager. A Klingon with daddy issues, great.

The rabid young Klingon captain from ST:V. Hes an idiot, I mean he goes from shooting space junk to thinking he can bag James T. Kirk. Very delusional at best.