Painted Mobile Base

terryoc · Post by **terryoc** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 3:46 pm

That's incredible!!!

Post by **Steve Cole** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 3:52 pm

very nicely done. Would you be so kind as to email the first or second picture (your choice) to Joel (graphics@starfleetgames.com) for use as the Mini of the Month?

Jim Lewis · Post by **Jim Lewis** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 5:08 pm

Excellent - I like it!

Post by **Steve Cole** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 5:50 pm

Sadly, it was pointed out to me that the mobile base in the photos used unauthorized Paramount material, so those photos cannot be used.

Jon, please delete them from anywhere you put them.

That "TNG communicator logo" you used is a license violation that gets us in all kinds of trouble with Paramount. Please never use it again, and please never post any photos of any ship using it.

Red24 · Post by **Red24** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 7:36 pm

Steve Cole wrote:That "TNG communicator logo" you used is a license violation that gets us in all kinds of trouble with Paramount. Please never use it again, and please never post any photos of any ship using it.

Will do.

The ironic thing is I didn't intend it to be a "TNG communicator logo" I just thought it was kinda plain with the straight insignia, so I put a circle behind it, then I adjusted it and it became an oval. Subconsciously must have thought it "looked right".

I assume it's ok to use just the original series style insignia marking. If so, I will redo and re-post.

djdood · Post by **djdood** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 7:57 pm

Jon -

I can only speak to my experience doing decal graphics for Tenneshington, but (so far) any graphics based on the pennants/banners on the "tv ship" seem to be fine, as they have a long history in the SFU. This would include the three-pronged "trident" pennant from the "tv ship's" engineering hull and the solid pennants from the engines.

The goldenrod arrowhead glyph (as adjusted for the SFU; it's not exactly the same as Paramount's) is fine, either alone or when combined with the "racing strip" pennant graphics. The SFU version of the arrowhead glyph is available in the SFU Art Gallery and other places.

Combining the arrowhead with any kind of background shape is probably dangerous turf (TNG used an oval, I think Voyager and DS9 used a rounded rectangle, some "future" episodes used triangles, etc.). Using the different uniform patch graphics (which replaced the arrowhead with other shapes) from other starships/bases in the original series would also not be allowed, from that I've seen.

I didn't see any issues with any of the pennants on your mobile base and when it comes time to do my own for Tenneshington, ours will look somewhat similar. The pennants for cargo pods in the source Technical Manual established the precedent, a long time ago.

If you can paint over the decals on the wedge-shaped modules (those are "base augmentation modules in the SFU "fluff", used to add additional capabilities to bases such as fighter hangers, etc.) you'd be in great shape for use of any new photography. For the photos you have already taken, if you want to have them used for Mongoose and ADB, it shouldn't be to hard to paint out the offending graphic in a photo-editor.

They were great shots of a really nicely painted and detailed mini. If you need help with photo-retouches, I can offer to help with a few shots (not all 100). I think people deserve to see such fine craftsmanship.

Red24 · Post by **Red24** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:44 pm

Thanks for the info.

I'll likely create a new decal and re-shoot the photos, but I might just touch up the one original photo as a starter.

djdood · Post by **djdood** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:19 pm

I should also mention that bases are sometimes shown with the UFP symbol and it might be a good candidate for the location you are going to rework.

The later symbol is this one:
http://starfleetgames.com/ArtGallery/im ... _final.jpg

There is also an earlier banner, that has been shown on some art (I'm partial to this one personally, as it looks good with the red pennants):
http://starfleetgames.com/ArtGallery/im ... _final.jpg

Other bases use the text UNITED FEDERATION OF PLANETS in place of a symbol.
http://www.starfleetgames.com/images/Fe ... -Front.jpg
http://www.starfleetgames.com/images/Fe ... e-Back.jpg

archon96 · Post by **archon96** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:33 pm

dude just paint over the offensive symbol and move on

Red24 · Post by **Red24** » Wed Sep 05, 2012 1:12 am

archon96 wrote:dude just paint over the offensive symbol and move on

NO!!! I must achieve perfection!

I just really wanted some sort of symbol there.

archon96 · Post by **archon96** » Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:07 am

gorn the only way to go.

Red24 · Post by **Red24** » Wed Sep 05, 2012 3:12 am

archon96 wrote:gorn the only way to go.

Don't worry. Awesomely painted Gorn will follow...

... when I eventually get some!