Shawn Hantke Table of Contents Project

Shawn Hantke · Post by **Shawn Hantke** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:32 pm

Federation Commander players:
It has come to my attention that some of you may not be aware that I have been submitting TOCs for the SFU. They are available as pdfs here: http://www.starfleetgames.com/playerresources.shtml look under Table of Contents Documents.
These are search able and many players are using them as dividers in their rule books so they can find information faster. They are also nice for finding out what was in certain products. I have my own Topic on the BBS and now will have one here. If you have any suggestions or comments or just find a typo you can post here and I will try to address them.

Shawn Hantke · Post by **Shawn Hantke** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:33 pm

I am currently working on TOCs for Federation Commander. I have a pretty good idea on how to do every section but Chapter 7 the Ships. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

mjwest · Post by **mjwest** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:30 pm

In Federation Commander, there are no numbers for each ship outside the ship card number. I suggest listing both the name of each ship, and its corresponding ship card number. That should cover you.

Shawn Hantke · Post by **Shawn Hantke** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 12:15 am

So would it be more useful with the names alphabetized then ship card number say-
Federation Heavy Cruiser XX
Federation Light Cruiser XX
Or more useful in numerical order like this-
X1 Federation Light Cruiser
x2 Federation Heavy Cruiser

mjwest · Post by **mjwest** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 12:37 am

Since there are never more than 16 ships in any given product, I don't think it really matters. I would just list them for each empire:
(7B) Federation
Dreadnought (xx)
Heavy Cruiser (xx)
Light Cruiser (xx)
Frigate (xx)
(7C) Klingon Empire
C8 Dreadnought (xx)
D7 Heavy Cruiser (xx)
D6 Heavy Cruiser (xx)
F5 Frigate (xx)

And so on. I don't think you need a strict order, though if you must have one, I would go with alphabetical. I would not go with numerical, as that would not allow you to easily group them by Empire sections. (Some of the numbers can be rather scattered.)

JimDauphinais · Post by **JimDauphinais** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 1:35 am

I have found that, within a given empire, it is most useful to list ships sorted in descending Speed Cost order and then descending Point Value order.

I have a large spreadsheet (up to date through Booster #92) with ships grouped by empire and then sorted as I suggest above complete with the ship card and 1/2" counter manifest associated with each ship. It is the same spreadsheet I used to identify the missing 1/2" ship counters that Steve added to War & Peace. It is a derivative of the Master Ship Chart, but it has a lot more information in it.

Shawn Hantke · Post by **Shawn Hantke** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 5:09 pm

Could you email me the spreadsheet? I am not really sure what you are talking about.

terryoc · Post by **terryoc** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 6:17 am

Well, for example a CA and NCA both have a movement cost of 1, e.g. D7 and D5W, but the D5W is 150 points so you'd list the D5W first.

Shawn Hantke · Post by **Shawn Hantke** » Wed Mar 23, 2011 12:45 am

I have tried to do these several different ways, and they end up looking like the Master Ship chart. since there already is a Master Ship chart, it is pointless to make a different unofficial one.