I'll be picking it up once CL43 and ISC War are both published so I only have to pay one shipping fee for all of the major new products coming out this quarter.

By Charles Gray (Cgray45) on Monday, May 30, 2011 - 04:40 pm: Edit

The plasma pods interest me-- given the need to keep pressure on andro PA panels, giving them a seeking weapon likely makes for a much harder time fighting them.

By Charles Gray (Cgray45) on Wednesday, June 01, 2011 - 07:41 pm: Edit

So, it's not up on E23 yet, so while I'm waiting-- just how horrifying are the Andro X-ships?

By Shawn Hantke (Shantke) on Wednesday, June 01, 2011 - 08:15 pm: Edit

Charles, X-PAs 15/9 less leaky, dissipate 2 pts, transfer 25%. Batteries hold 6, Fast load TRs, Dissection Beams, Dis Dev and Spatial Distorters. Phaser-1s :+) The X-Int has 42 Warp, 8 Batt, 4 AWR, 4 Imp 14 PAs, 8-Ph-1, and 3 TRH so pretty scary.

By Richard B. Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Wednesday, June 01, 2011 - 08:55 pm: Edit

And of course all the normal X-ship advantages.

By Richard B. Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Wednesday, June 01, 2011 - 08:56 pm: Edit

I think you get to have faster sat ships when launched from mother ships and easier to recover also.

By Charles Gray (Cgray45) on Wednesday, June 01, 2011 - 09:58 pm: Edit

Nice. One thing from the discription that gets me is that since fighters can regenerate (sort of wth the PA advantage), tactics with Andro fighters, in term of dealing with them will involve trying to throw enough firepower at a gien fighter to assure a kill-- which of course means that the motherships now have an "effective" extra PA panel by whatever amount of firepowre you need to use to kill the fighters.

By Jean Sexton (Jsexton) on Wednesday, June 01, 2011 - 10:20 pm: Edit

We're working on getting C3A up on e23. Sorry for the delay.

By Charles Gray (Cgray45) on Wednesday, June 01, 2011 - 10:37 pm: Edit

No worries! (it's amazing how things change-- over on rpg.net and white wolf, if a product is one day, ONE DAY late, their are howls of doom, because they don't have it.)
Grr...young whippernsappers, Why I remember when I WALKED IN THE SNOW, BOTH WAYS, to my Game store to find out that the UPS truck had delivered my captain's log 10 to China, and then I had to WALK BACK, uphill, IN THE SNOW AGAIN, to home. Whippersnappers, don't know how easy they have....grumble....
GETTOFFMY LAWN!

By Terry O'Carroll (Terryoc) on Sunday, June 05, 2011 - 09:36 pm: Edit

Spotted one minor error in C3A.

(GC8.214), last sentence: "...Impulses #4, #9, and #12" should probably read "#8" instead of "#9", because seeking energy modules displace every four impulses. - Terry O'Carroll, 6/6/2011

Also spotted a few very minor spelling errors, but they don't seem worth posting as they can't possibly cause any confusion.

Edit: really enjoying C3A. Love the mysterious Andromedans and this product is excellent value @ the price IMO.

By Charles Gray (Cgray45) on Monday, June 06, 2011 - 04:42 pm: Edit

It's a very interesting product and quite well done-- I do have to admit, I'd be more than a little interested in an exploration of that other timeline.
Quite nice job, bravo all!

By Gary Carney (Nerroth) on Saturday, June 25, 2011 - 02:20 am: Edit

One thing I noticed on the SSDs for the dissection beam-armed ships; there is no dashed-line between the two boxes of each DSB, the way there is for other double-space weapons around (like Trobrin heavy implosion torpedoes or Baduvai CPA-2s). Is this intentional, or should the adjacent boxes for each dissection beam be dashed, not solid?

By Terry O'Carroll (Terryoc) on Saturday, June 25, 2011 - 04:05 am: Edit

There's two boxes with a letter in one of them, so it's still (IMHO) clear enough what's intended.

By A. David Merritt (Adm) on Saturday, June 25, 2011 - 11:47 am: Edit

While I agree it is clear enough, Gary has a point that the symbols used should match the established pattern.

By Stewart W Frazier (Frazikar2) on Monday, June 27, 2011 - 09:07 pm: Edit

(JC1.347) '...medium satellite ship...' should be a 'large satellite ship' as (JC1.346) covered the medium sized bay. SWFrazier 110627

(T12S1.41) '...xx30 edge of Map #8...' should be 'Map #6' (otherwise Map #9 is in direction D of Map #8, not direction B/C). SWFrazier 110627

By Craig Baynham-Evans (Oldrom) on Thursday, June 30, 2011 - 05:39 am: Edit

Ref C3A
So sad to see a module full of only conjectural ships. Some of them would have made great adds to the available list.
No interest in X-Ships they are like clan Mecs in battletec,
they just ruined a great game. Just 2 or 3 ships like a beefed up Python would of been great. As it stands the thought of buying a fantasy ship list of a fantasy ship list is bonkers.
Reminds me of Bobby in the TV series Dallas waking up in the shower realising it's all been a bad dream ! I was so looking forward to this. Really glad I didn't waste my money.

By Terry O'Carroll (Terryoc) on Thursday, June 30, 2011 - 06:39 am: Edit

Craig, I don't think I've seen you post before, so welcome to the boards.

By Jean Sexton (Jsexton) on Thursday, June 30, 2011 - 07:31 am: Edit

Craig, I see this as the best of both worlds. People who love the Andros get a bunch of fun ships to fly. People who don't can't have them shoved into the game as "real." We've always been upfront about them being conjectural.

We're really lucky that this has proven to be as popular as it has. A lot of people at Origins were excited by the book.

Jean
(wearing her Marketing Director hat)

By Dixon Simpkins (Dixsimpkins) on Friday, July 01, 2011 - 02:59 am: Edit

I am getting curiouser and curiouser the more I read about this C3A thing. Andro Threat Files make sense from an 'in universe' perspective, since no one is supposed to know much about them. Speculation would be rampant. I think I'll actually have to flip through a copy before I make a decision to buy or not, though. My local game store doesn't have it in yet so I'll have to wait a bit yet.

By Marc Potts (Patrolcorvette) on Saturday, July 02, 2011 - 05:54 pm: Edit

Just bought this last week. The fact all the ships are conjectural doesn't bother me at all, it just means I treat them like the Frax, Sharkhunters, etc. In the case of the Dissection Beam, I'm glad it's conjectural! Most intrigued by the alternate timeline, and the LDR campaign. Now if only someone in my local group played LDR...

By Xander Fulton (Dderidex) on Saturday, July 02, 2011 - 08:50 pm: Edit

Craig - something else to keep in mind is that, while the *ships* are all conjectural, the product does have a few things that aren't:

- The Fall of Demorak mini-campaign, detailing the Andromedan conquest of the LDR, is entirely historical

- Several bits of history and details are also historical 'for the other timeline' (IE., the one the Darwin encountered where the Andromedans win).

It's definitely a great product, though. Think of it more like the TNG episode 'Parallels'!

By A. David Merritt (Adm) on Sunday, July 03, 2011 - 10:24 am: Edit

If I understand it correctly, The Dissection Beam, and the ships equipped with them are alternate timeline real as well.

By Craig Baynham-Evans (Oldrom) on Monday, July 04, 2011 - 04:22 am: Edit

Indeed the fight for the LDR is a great part of the module and 2 of my SFB fanatics got it just for that ! However I still think it would of been real easy to make just 2 or 3 of the ships available ie not conjectural . That really is my only point. Infact the very thought of all of what is in there being available and not conjectural would of probably made my head explode with the excitement. Sadly it was not to be, so the Old Rom is very sad indeed

By Terry O'Carroll (Terryoc) on Monday, July 04, 2011 - 06:46 am: Edit

Copies of dissection beams were found in the primary timeline, they were not installed on any ships or used in combat in the primary timeline.

By Richard B. Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Monday, July 04, 2011 - 08:03 am: Edit

I don't recall that from C3A.