Rejected Proposals K2-911-920

Star Fleet Universe Discussion Board: Star Fleet Battles: New Product Development: Module K2: More gunboats: Rejected Proposals K2-911-920
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By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Friday, March 27, 2026 - 09:30 am: Edit

PROPOSAL K2-911
Various
Larger PF Flotillas with 8 or 9 gunboats.
REJECTED: The whole key is an integrated formation and the control limit is six including the leader.

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By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Friday, March 27, 2026 - 09:36 am: Edit

PROPOSAL K2-912
Most recently Pat Moore, but many over the years
External weapons rails for PFs, basically non-reloadable drone rails like a fighter onto which individual weapons such as drones or plasma-D/K could be mounted.
Been on the auto reject list since Alan Gopin wanted to add these to every Kzinti ship so they could launch six extra drones during a same-hex combat pounce for sudden impact.
At least Pat tried to slip this one under the radar by proposing that the drones would fall off if you went faster than 31, effectively limited them to defensive PFs assigned to bases. That would make bases even harder nuts to crack, not a good thing.

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By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Friday, March 27, 2026 - 09:40 am: Edit

PROPOSAL K2-913
Tos Crawford
PF PF Tender. This unit would have no offensive capability but have the ability to flush a docked PF's engines, refuel, resupply or perform limited repairs. Maybe even store a single spare WBP, or be allowed to detach its WBP and place attach it to a docked PF. It would look something like a leader version of the cargo PF. It would have to have the more expensive self-scrubbing engines for sustained operation. While it would dock with a PF to perform its function this would use the ship-to-ship docking rules. Its maneuver would be limited to that of two ships docked, i.e. it could not travel at warp while docked.
REJECTED, PFs are too small to do things like that.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Friday, March 27, 2026 - 09:45 am: Edit

PROPOSAL K2-914
Gary Plana (RIP)
Here's an idea I've been playing with: AWE.

The way to get longer strategic range from a PF would be with Auxiliary Warp Engines. AWE are the same physical size as WBP and attach to the PF the same way; you can't mount both at the same time, nor can you mix & match.

While using the AWE, the warp engines are shut down so you do not get any additional power; the AWE supply the same amount of power as the warp engine normally does.

During the first half of the long-range mission, the PF is flying on the AWE at normal speeds. When it gets to where it is going, the AWE are jettisioned and the PF returns home on it's regular warp engines. This allows a PF to double it's strategic range.

If the PF gets into a fight, it can keep the AWE or drop them. If it drops them, ops normal. The decision to drop the AWE is made in the "PFs drop WBP" action.

If it keeps the AWE, movement cost is increased by a fraction (to be decided/argued over) due to the additional mass. Any warp engine hits are applied to the AWE first, then the regular warp engines. Overall, this means that the PF is flying at a reduced speed, but can soak up a few extra warp hits.

The bad news: AWE cost 1.5 times as much as WBPs.
REJECTED, no practical need.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Friday, March 27, 2026 - 09:47 am: Edit

PROPOSAL K2-915
John Trauger
How about a "circuit breaker" that limits the damage a PF can take to the WBP?

When a PF with packs takes a hit to its WBP. No matter what is rolled, the worst that can happen is that the pack is totalled and the PF's warp drive is fine. If the PF takes a engine hit while the destroyed packs are still attached, the damage effect is rolled as normal, this time against the PF's warp drive.

X-ships would still play hades with PFs because of their ability to engage a PF using X-aegis: First volley blows out the packs, second blows out the drive.
REJECTED, this amounts to throwing away the rulebook and redesigning PFs from the start. No one would ever use the non-breaker versions. PFs work the way they work.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Sunday, March 29, 2026 - 11:30 pm: Edit

PROPOSAL K2-916
Rejected by SPP as impractical.
DEAD HORSE LIST
Aegis, SFG, experimental combat trials, ESGs.


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