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Terry, it is confusing.
I am not sure what I see in the satellite images of the forrested area. Ammo or empty crates?
The spaces around the concrete bunkers were clear. Still the entire depot is covered in fire according to NASA sat images?
The depot has come under attack before
"According to Russian reports, Toropets has been previously attacked, in May and June of this year."
Unless those attacks on the faciltiy failed wouldn't this have happened earlier?
(Assuming it was the crates in the forrested area that was hit and exploded?)
Oh well, I don't really complain
BTW, the bunkers each could hold 240 tons (metric) of ammo.
So, 42 times 240 is about 10.000 ton.
Israel should sell their exploding pagers on Temu. A pager that blows your face off would fit right in with the rest of their product selection
I never thought I'd see an outfit cheaper, with crummier products, than Wish. Then Temu came along, and established that there is no bottom.
I'm cautiously hopeful that the new rollback of the de minimis limits on tariffs against Chinese products puts an end to Temu (and given where everything they sell is made, the Singapore-based Wish as well).
Actually the rated capacity of an ammunition bunker is a LOT less than it's actual, physical, capacity. And knowing how Russians behave, I can bet you that they keep cramming stuff into a given bunker until the doors can barely close. No matter what the "rules" are.
I was the safety manager at the Arifjan Ammunition site and they do all kinds of calculations (QDArcs, Quantity Distance Arcs) depending on what is in a given bunker. WP, vs small arms ammunition, vs primary explosives (aka detonators for C4), vs rocket fuels. etc. The calculations were done by the specialists there and they would adjust the amount of stuff all the time as differing loadouts were put in & pulled. That place is VAST beyond what you'd imagine; I probably drove 50 miles a day wandering around in there.
I was in charge of making sure everyone was wearing the proper boots, forklifts had their inspections, writing evacuation plans & running drills, Lock out/ tagout training, oil spills by the mechanics, the "purple book", new hire orientations, metric calculations and making graphics for the weekly brief of the government, dealing with the FD and random government safety people wandering by and such.
For example, a particularly clueless DoD inspector got on top of us because the DoD Safety manual requires flame arrestors in forklift carburetors and we didn't have proof all our forklifts had them. She made my life hell for a few days until I got a master mechanic to explain to her that DIESEL forklifts don't have carbs. The requirement is from the olden days when gasoline powered forklifts were used.
Amusingly, just about everyone there had a foreign girlfriend. Because they could. My guy Marvin D married his Somali girl after a couple years (she was pretty amazing looking). Mark N had a very nice Nepali girl who was about 5' of pure sweetheart.
This is an unclassified manual that is pretty interesting. https://safety.army.mil/Portals/0/Documents/ON-DUTY/EXPLOSIVESSAFETY/GUIDEBOOKS/Standard/Army-Explosives-Safety-Handbook-Jan-2018.pdf
I believe "What on Earth", explored a British Ammo Storage site that exploded during WWII in the countryside... Area is still considered off limits...
So places like that aren't immune to "Accidents"
Port Chicago, July 17, 1944.
The subsequent mutiny was unfortunate.
I'm betting that Hezbollah and Hamas now have low-level members going through and disassembling pretty much all their electronic gear in inventory to check for "gifts."
Those that haven’t lost faces or hands…
Tnx for the link, Mike! I have tried to find actual pictures of the russian ammo bunkers but no luck.
How terrible for those terrorist organizations to be short handed.
(Ducking now...)
I think Hezbollah got the message.
Regardless of just what message Hezbollah may, or may not have gotten… a third wave of explosive detonations are exploding across Gaza again.
apparently solar energy powered devices (haven’t found a technical description yet beyond “Solar Devices”.)
No estimate of casualties either.
I have to say, the Israeli discipline and execution of this campaign is impressive.
In other news, Israel is redeploying IDF units north and east towards Lebanon.
Looks like the Israelis intend to clean house again.
Any predictions? Will we see convoys of Iranian trucks retreating back to Iran from Lebanon? Or are we going to see a drone campaign targeting military targets in Lebanon similar to what is happening in Ukraine and occupied Russia?
Jake Broe on YouTube is saying that the russian ammo store had about 30K tons of munitions (three times what it was intended to hold) and seismographs have registered 17 explosions(!) in total. The facility continues to burn.
My guess is that cell towers are going to fail, en masse, at a critical time. Maybe they brick, maybe they go boom, or melt, or something.
As for "Iranian trucks" you do realize that such goods have to get from Iran to Iraq, to Syria, to Lebanon. Unless you use ships, you have to go through Iraq. Basra/ Umm Qasr you know.
The Russian ammo storage dump has been seen on satellite photos with 60 of its bunkers destroyed.
There's an area with 42 hardened bunkers and a good number (about half? two-thirds?) of those seem to have survived (at least they're not obviously destroyed), but there were dozens of non-hardened structures (speculation: warehouses storing artillery rounds?) that were pretty much annihilated. The damage ranges from burned-out to "meteor crater". There is an area of what looks like administration buildings and workshops that is basically undamaged.
Interviews with Israeli defense ministry personnel are now being posted.
The first snippet included a statement that israel had been working to set this up for fifteen years before all of the pieces were in place.
Not many organizations have the capacity, and the discipline to pull an operation of the size and scope of something like this.
Wow.
And all that the critics of Israel can say is "sure, you wounded 6000 terrorists, but you wounded five civilians, so you should not have done it.
It was brilliant. Making a piece of actual terrorist gear into a bomb?
What I think was brilliantly done, was finding a way to get these bombs into the hands (literally and figuratively) of the terror network members, so they could be effective targeting the bad guys.
In case you miss the point, the Israelis got the terrorists to do the task for them.
Brilliant.
From what we know now, it appears to be a brilliant, well done operation.
One Israeli source said it took several years to pull off.
Ramzan Kadyrov has posted video of Tesla Cybertrucks converted to have pintle mounted weapons in the cargo area. It's all just propaganda, like every video featuring the Chechen TikTok brigade, but I'd love to see what happens when an EV gets hit with a suicide drone. I reckon the battery would burn spectacularly.
On a different front...
It seems American Tourists at/after the Olympics in Paris, were doing a job on French Pickpockets...
First report talked about Smartphones that ignited after the thief pressed the on button....
Lastest, they were picking up fake Gucci bags, crapping in them and setting them up with igniters to catch it on fire....
Pickpockets were making sure to avoid Americans, thought everything was ok after Olympics ended, though some Americans stayed after....
One detail that I somehow missed three days ago, was apparently the second wave of exploding Hezbollah electronic phones and pagers just “happened” at a time when the funerals of the original pagers holders were being buried…
It appears that some of the more senior Hezbollah members do not carry or use such devices, but were collateral injuries because they were at the funerals of the more junior members of the terrorist organization.
This says at least two things:
One, that Israel knows and understands the culture and societal norms of the enemy.
Two, there was a time Israel would have respected the religious ceremony. That Israel is not now respecting them, is perhaps the best proof, that the rules have changed.
October 7 attacks, and the callously cruel kidnapping of civilians changed the status of Hezbollah.
I need to go buy some popcorn, I expect this show is going into extra innings and I do not want to miss the next devious and or clever technique Israel pulls out of their bag of tricks.