Hydran Count

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Thursday, February 06, 2020 - 04:56 pm: Edit

Hydran DD minesweeper

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Thursday, February 06, 2020 - 04:56 pm: Edit

Hydran Fast Cruiser

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Thursday, February 06, 2020 - 04:57 pm: Edit

If possible I want to approve these sometime Saturday.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Thursday, February 06, 2020 - 06:04 pm: Edit

Hydran Pegasus, also for rapid approval if possible.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Thursday, February 06, 2020 - 06:11 pm: Edit

And one last Hydran for this month for quick approval if possible.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Thursday, February 06, 2020 - 06:11 pm: Edit

Get on these ASAP so we can review them in time for next tuesday.

By Stewart Frazier (Frazikar3) on Thursday, February 06, 2020 - 07:11 pm: Edit

If this is the St-S, then it's missing the rear (RX) gatling …

By Mark Hutton (Trynda1701) on Thursday, February 06, 2020 - 09:09 pm: Edit

I know the Fast Cruiser has larger engines than the standard ones, could they be a tad longer too?

By Chris Nasipak (Ecs05norway) on Thursday, February 06, 2020 - 09:42 pm: Edit

> If this is the St-S, then it's missing the rear (RX) gatling …

Yeah, hard to find that. I've never played these fighters before, and there's no mention of it anywhere... except the annex in G1. I can add it easily enough.

> I know the Fast Cruiser has larger engines than the standard ones, could they be a tad longer too?

I made the call on these to make them "fatter" instead of longer as a stylistic choice, since the Hydran ships are long enough as it is. If Steve thinks they'll look better longer, though, I'll make 'em longer.

Minesweeper: Yeah, only the bottom is shown here, as it's primarily my "Here's what I think a Mine Rack greeblie would look like" proposal. The ship is ready to go, but that's the important thing to review.

By Richard Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Thursday, February 06, 2020 - 09:49 pm: Edit

That greeble looks reasonable to me.

By MarkSHoyle (Bolo) on Thursday, February 06, 2020 - 10:23 pm: Edit

Super Stinger, Step 1 for Hydran jump to Interceptors?????

By wayne douglas power (Wayne) on Thursday, February 06, 2020 - 10:34 pm: Edit

I like the look of the DD minesweeper, I do not have information on the Hydran Pegasus (so can not check her), is the Hydran fast cruiser the Hydran Thoroughbred?, if so than I can see it has the 4x ph-1s in the nose, it looks like its missing an FA/L PH-2, and FA/R PH-2.

By wayne douglas power (Wayne) on Thursday, February 06, 2020 - 10:45 pm: Edit

I haven't got my other reverences handy, are the fighter shuttle tunnel decks on the DDL Count, and the Fast Cruiser?

The DDL Count also has two FA PH-1s (it does look like they are there in the nose)

By Chris Nasipak (Ecs05norway) on Thursday, February 06, 2020 - 10:54 pm: Edit

@Wayne:
The remaining phasers are under the nose, just like all other Hydran cruisers.
The launch tubes are below the aft, as on the Dragoon.

The Count's Ph-1's are also below the nose.

By wayne douglas power (Wayne) on Thursday, February 06, 2020 - 11:05 pm: Edit

Chris, Thank you, I thought as much, just was not certain.
All good

By Charles Chapel (Ctchapel) on Friday, February 07, 2020 - 10:42 pm: Edit

What ever you do with the fins of the Pegasus remember that gunboats get mounted on them.

By Chris Nasipak (Ecs05norway) on Friday, February 07, 2020 - 10:52 pm: Edit

The Pegasus with gunboats has already been released, this is the "Light Cruiser" version without the gunboat docks.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Saturday, February 08, 2020 - 01:13 pm: Edit

We need Petrick to check in. Does the Super Stinger have to use the same launch tubes as the Stinger-2?

The ships are okay to send to Jean.

By Richard Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Saturday, February 08, 2020 - 01:17 pm: Edit

Im not SPP but I know that it's been written that the size of the launch tubes restricted development of fighter designs beyond the ST-2 (for single space fighters).

By Stewart Frazier (Frazikar3) on Saturday, February 08, 2020 - 07:13 pm: Edit

The ST-S is the heavy (SZ2) fighter and cannot use the launch tubes …

By Steve Petrick (Petrick) on Monday, March 02, 2020 - 06:36 pm: Edit

A Count Destroyer Leader should have two launch tubes and two shuttle hatches. I do not see anything I can clearly equate to those features.

Should be the standard two phaser-2s under the front end (FA arcs), I am assuming the rearmost of the two black bubbles on top is actually the 360 phaser-1.
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A Picador should have two (2) launch tubes on each side, and three (3) shuttle hatches, one to each fighter/shuttle bay and one to the standard shuttle bay on the centerline. It looks like the ship is showing four launch tubes and I guess a shuttle hatch under them.

There should be a phaser-2-360.

There should be two phaser-G-FA under the nose.

I am assuming the raised structures on the rear end are the mine racks, each structure housing two of the four.

I have no idea what the structure on the top of the ship forward of the shuttle bay is (it appears some kind of circular structure).
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Thoroughbred

I have no issues from this view.
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Hydran Pegasus Light Cruiser

Seems to be missing the hatches for the two shuttle bays in the main hull (not on the wings) located near the back end on the SSD. Otherwise I have no issues.
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The Hydran Super-Stinger is a size-2 fighter (a double space fighter) and, as has been noted, cannot use launch tubes.

Heavy armament is two fusion beams-FA (each with two charges), one hellbore-FA (with a single charge), not three fusion beams-FA.

Phaser armament is 1xph-G-FA and 1xPh-G-RX.

Under (J10.0) the crew of a heavy fighter is three to four beings, so the cockpit should be configured with that concept.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Monday, March 02, 2020 - 06:40 pm: Edit

UPDATE

THOROUGHBRED APPROVED

fixes needed to all the rest.

By Chris Nasipak (Ecs05norway) on Monday, March 02, 2020 - 07:20 pm: Edit

Super-Stinger: I've already added the rear phaser. The top-mounted weapon is the hellbore, same as in the Stinger-2H already approved. As current it's about 25% wider and the same length. I can add more width, or length, if desired.

The Picador shows only a ventral view, to display the mine-racks as they are on the lower portion of the after hull sides (Rear-Left and Rear-Right arcs). The "circular structure" is the stand lug.
Two launch tubes are visible in the same place they've always been on Hydran DDs, the four-slot object is an unspecified greeblie that Gary put in several places on various ships and I've taken to indicate APRs or something similar.

Count: Launch tubes are in the same place as the Picador and other Hydran destroyer hulls. Of the two 'black objects' on the upper hull, one is correctly identified as a phaser; the other is a navigation light.

Pegasus: The shuttle bays are shown in the wings on my SSD, if you want them in the hull I'll be glad to move 'em there.

By Steve Petrick (Petrick) on Monday, March 02, 2020 - 07:50 pm: Edit

Chris Nasipak:

The Hydran Pegasus light cruiser has five shuttle bays. Three in the wings each holding two fighters, there are no launch tubes.

There are also two bays on either side of the back end of the main hull, not on the wings, each holding one shuttle.