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Star Fleet Universe Discussion Board: Shapeways Project: Ships for Shapeways Approval: June 1: Hydran FRD: Archive through April 28, 2020
By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Wednesday, April 08, 2020 - 03:05 pm: Edit

We plan to do FRDs for each empire. Chris Nasipak got his done first. The rest of the sculptors will be along in due time.

3788 HYD FRD Draft-1A.jpg

3788 HYD FRD Draft-1B.jpg

3788 HYD FRD Draft-1W.jpg

While it shows a ship inside the actual print won't include one.

By Matthew Lawson (Mglawson) on Wednesday, April 08, 2020 - 03:34 pm: Edit

Very nice look! The second picture has cross beams on the frame; was that a different version? I personally like it without them.

By MarkSHoyle (Bolo) on Wednesday, April 08, 2020 - 04:01 pm: Edit

Understand the Paladin is small for DN (other than the width at the aft end), will one fit in there.....

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Wednesday, April 08, 2020 - 04:31 pm: Edit

I posted both versions so Chris could hear your thoughts.

By Chris Nasipak (Ecs05norway) on Wednesday, April 08, 2020 - 04:56 pm: Edit

Yeah, the middle image has had a bit more work done on it, the crossbeams are the biggest, it's also got a lengthwise beam on either side of the ventral surface and some additional detailing on the "island".

By Gary Carney (Nerroth) on Wednesday, April 08, 2020 - 05:42 pm: Edit

To clarify, will there be a single Omni-scale fleet repair dock per empire, or will there be distinct 3788 and 3125 sale minis?
WE DONT KNOW YET.

Also, if the port and starboard pieces are meant to represent the FRD's residual impulse engines, could they be modified to match the impulse engines as shown on Hydran warships, or perhaps otherwise adjusted so as to look less like Hydran tactical warp engines?
THAT IS WHY WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS

On a side note, as there is scope for different Alpha Octant fleet repair docks, I'm wondering if that might also leave the door ajar for the Zosman Marauders to get their Syndicate base, as presented in Captain's Log #52.
NOT THE TOPIC FOR THAT DISCUSSION. ANYTHING MIGHT BE POSSIBLE IF A SCULPTOR THINKS IT WORTH HIS TIME?

By Chris Nasipak (Ecs05norway) on Wednesday, April 08, 2020 - 07:07 pm: Edit

The impulse outlets are copied directly from other Hydran ships, and are visible (to a degree) in the third picture, at the right side.

By Gary Carney (Nerroth) on Wednesday, April 08, 2020 - 07:49 pm: Edit

I see them now, thanks.

Would that make the pieces on the left side of the images the APR blocks? That is an interesting idea, though I might suggest removing the circular "engine-ey" parts facing to the right on them.

One other question - should there be any sort of docking clamps marked, for when the FRD is to be towed either by a tug, or by two non-tug cruisers working in tandem? (Actually, I've wondered if, in the latter instance, are the cruisers both docked side by side to each other, or if they are meant to be on opposite sides of the FRD instead.)

By Andrew Schwenzer (Andrew_Cluetain) on Wednesday, April 08, 2020 - 07:55 pm: Edit

Looks Awesome, I like the cross beams in the middle one. Do you have plans for how the stand(s) will attach yet?

By Thomas Mathews (Turtle) on Wednesday, April 08, 2020 - 09:06 pm: Edit

What about fighter or PF or Power modules that can be attached to the FRD? See (R1.10-9) from the Hydran Master Starship Book.

By Thomas Mathews (Turtle) on Wednesday, April 08, 2020 - 09:06 pm: Edit

Deleted by author. Duplicate post.

By Chris Nasipak (Ecs05norway) on Wednesday, April 08, 2020 - 09:08 pm: Edit

... crudstunk. Why did I put warp nacelles on it? I keep flashing back to that one mobile shipyard from The Other Game, with one big nacelle on one side (and not on the other, how the F is that supposed to work?)

I could put some greeblies in to represent tractor attachment points, or something, for that kind of docking. For two cruisers it'd probably be cruiser belly to FRD side.

> Do you have plans for how the stand(s) will attach yet?

Right now, not sure, a lot is going to depend on whether we go Omni or not. If we don't then people are going to want to be able to put ships -in- it, so it has to remain relatively open.

By Stewart Frazier (Frazikar3) on Wednesday, April 08, 2020 - 09:54 pm: Edit

Looks a little small as it should be able to handle a CA and a FF at the same time ….

As for the external docking points, there are four, top & bottom pair [towing (C13,5511)] and the side pair [used for base modules (R10.1A4)]

By wayne douglas power (Wayne) on Thursday, April 09, 2020 - 08:18 am: Edit

Nice work on the Hydran FRD.

By Mark Hutton (Trynda1701) on Thursday, April 09, 2020 - 09:15 am: Edit

@ChrisN

Yes, was about to ask whether those were warp nacelles at the front as I read down, like 'The Other Game' version. Wasn't sure if the SFU had them or not :)

Like the second version with the extended lengthwise supports. If the off-centre box to the starboard rear is the crew module, would it be possible to widen the raised wedge structure behind the eight square greebles slightly, wider than the support it is sitting on, just to re-emphasise its' similarity to ship centre hulls?

By Gary Carney (Nerroth) on Thursday, April 09, 2020 - 12:35 pm: Edit

One further thought: perhaps the cross-beams could be "folded-up" on the default FRD design, and "extended" when a pair of base modules are attached? As in, the side docking points could be in the cross-beams themselves, along with the added structural support needed to keep the base modules in place.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Friday, April 10, 2020 - 03:18 pm: Edit

Revision 3 (Sorry, I've been busy, this came in yesterday.)

3788 HYD FRD v1-3 fron iso.jpg


3788 HYD FRD v1-3 rear iso.jpg

By wayne douglas power (Wayne) on Friday, April 10, 2020 - 11:50 pm: Edit

I like this version 3 of the Hydran FRD.

By Nick Blank (Nickgb) on Saturday, April 11, 2020 - 08:45 am: Edit

Very nice!

By Chris Nasipak (Ecs05norway) on Monday, April 27, 2020 - 04:43 pm: Edit

I still have to go through and check the weapons loadout for an FRD. And then build the Lyran one.

By Stewart Frazier (Frazikar3) on Monday, April 27, 2020 - 07:22 pm: Edit

FRDs are easy, two central heavy phasers, four light corner phasers, two racks (drone/plasma/ESG) … [Klingons add two security, Hydrans have no racks]

By Nick Samaras (Koogie) on Monday, April 27, 2020 - 09:58 pm: Edit

Keep in mind these things can mount base augmentation modules.

By wayne douglas power (Wayne) on Tuesday, April 28, 2020 - 02:54 am: Edit

Are the FRDs Omni scale? It has been noted the FRD has a docking capacity of 14. As Omni scale it could be smaller or larger.

By Joe Carlson (Jrc) on Tuesday, April 28, 2020 - 03:07 pm: Edit

Will a Fed DNH or CVA fit inside?

By Stewart Frazier (Frazikar3) on Tuesday, April 28, 2020 - 07:12 pm: Edit

FRDs can fit everything but battleships within though the larger DNs are a barely fit type of deal ...

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