A first look at the non-Aztek version.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Saturday, May 23, 2020 - 06:32 pm: Edit

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By Joe Carlson (Jrc) on Saturday, May 23, 2020 - 06:44 pm: Edit

To see the OK6 with such great detail is cool.

By Richard Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Saturday, May 23, 2020 - 07:13 pm: Edit

Very nice.

By Mark Hutton (Trynda1701) on Saturday, May 23, 2020 - 07:28 pm: Edit

Amazing work as always, Will!

I take it the OK6 couldn't have LS/RS weapons in its' option mounts, as the rear hull is in the way?

By wayne douglas power (Wayne) on Saturday, May 23, 2020 - 09:36 pm: Edit

Nice one, I am going to have to get an Orion OK6 now.

By Stewart Frazier (Frazikar3) on Saturday, May 23, 2020 - 10:23 pm: Edit

Looks more like RF+R/LF+L instead of RS/LS though plasma could still be RS/LS by launching R/L and turning aft …

By Mark Hutton (Trynda1701) on Saturday, May 23, 2020 - 11:53 pm: Edit

Although they can't be used, aren't all the landing legs missing their forward toe?

By Will McCammon (Djdood) on Sunday, May 24, 2020 - 03:17 am: Edit

It's an exact match to the CR that's been on-sale for a very long time. Any issues with the CR should really have been surfaced during its reviews.
Shapeways Orion CR Reference Picture

By Gary Carney (Nerroth) on Sunday, May 24, 2020 - 11:15 am: Edit

I was actually wondering if it would make sense for the Orions to have removed the landing pads from the forward hull entirely, as the OK6 cannot land (safely) on planets. Perhaps the space taken up by the landing pad mechanisms needed to be used to add extra bracing, so as to support the connection to the secondary hull.

By Mark Hutton (Trynda1701) on Sunday, May 24, 2020 - 12:06 pm: Edit

Gary:

That makes sense, actually.

Will:

That's unfortunate about the original CR, but water under the bridge and all that.

Are the option mount weapons arcs okay then?

By Chris Nasipak (Ecs05norway) on Sunday, May 24, 2020 - 01:29 pm: Edit

It looks great!

I would've maybe embedded the CR a bit further in, but that's just me.

By Will McCammon (Djdood) on Sunday, May 24, 2020 - 02:04 pm: Edit

Lacking anything better to go on, I set it to match the proportional length used for the (reviewed) Mongoose SL2500 OK6. The earlier SL2400 version never had any review and was what the sculptor could make work with pinning, etc.

It can adjust forward or aft, if that's what SVC wants.

The weapon arcs are what the two minis make them, unless I'm directed to change one or both of them.

By Chris Nasipak (Ecs05norway) on Sunday, May 24, 2020 - 02:33 pm: Edit

OK.

Gonna have to get me one of these when they hit the store.

By MarkSHoyle (Bolo) on Sunday, May 24, 2020 - 02:57 pm: Edit

Were the SSDs of the ships prior to being mated and after ever compared to see what components were needed or removed to make the match.....
Could the OR be shortened or the D Hull hollowed out more....

Is that best length to ensure the Wings don't affect the Warp Bubble negatively....

Lots more than aesthetics to make best use of the while design....

By Garth L. Getgen (Sgt_G) on Sunday, May 24, 2020 - 05:22 pm: Edit

If the CR was moved vertically up a little, the wingtip weapons might clear for the full LS/RS arc. Can you try that and see how it looks?


Garth L. Getgen

By Will McCammon (Djdood) on Sunday, May 24, 2020 - 05:36 pm: Edit

The existing Starline 2500 OK6

By Garth L. Getgen (Sgt_G) on Sunday, May 24, 2020 - 05:56 pm: Edit

Based off this view of the Mongoose design, the wingtips were very close to clearing properly.

I "think" you have a little wiggle room to shift it upwards and still keep the top of the front section below the top of the aft hull section.


Garth L. Getgen

By Will McCammon (Djdood) on Sunday, May 24, 2020 - 06:01 pm: Edit

The proportions and scaling of the Mongoose CR and D6 are different, with overall wider wing-spread on the CR.

By MarkSHoyle (Bolo) on Sunday, May 24, 2020 - 06:39 pm: Edit

It does seem to be embedded deeper, but Mongoose's version is missing a lot of greebles....

By Mark Hutton (Trynda1701) on Sunday, May 24, 2020 - 06:42 pm: Edit

Will:

Your new render could maybe be a bit shorter with the CR hull, like ChrisN suggested, and maybe a bit higher on the D hull like Garth said, although I think it will have to be a bit of a fudge to allow LS/RS arcs! It will be close!

By Charles Chapel (Ctchapel) on Sunday, May 24, 2020 - 06:45 pm: Edit

Given the unique nature of this ship, if the wings were made a bit wider that would be fine. Gary's point about the landing gear also makes sense. Why have equipment not necessary to operations? If removal of the hull features make the model easier to print please do so.

By MarkSHoyle (Bolo) on Sunday, May 24, 2020 - 07:25 pm: Edit

Whatever mechanisms related to the landing pads that get removed, the holes left still require something welded to cover them......

By Garth L. Getgen (Sgt_G) on Sunday, May 24, 2020 - 07:59 pm: Edit

Yes, I said at the time I thought the Mongoose Orion ships were slightly too big. Neither here nor there now.

Looking closely at the front view of Will's version, I still think a minor tweak upwards will make the wingtips clear. The other option is to talk SVC/SPP into changing the SSD.....

I think the length of the CR section is fine as-is. If you do shorten it, I wouldn't cut it any shorter than the back edge of the shuttle hatch (which like the landing gear needs to be welded shut).


Garth L. Getgen

By Will McCammon (Djdood) on Sunday, May 24, 2020 - 08:12 pm: Edit

I removed the recessed panel-outline from the shuttle hatch on Chris' CR model, making it into a flat-plate (i.e. welded shut). That's not in the first set of images, but is depicted in the rear-isometric view and orthographic views (which came a bit later).

The landing gear are on both the Starline 2400 and Starline 2500 minis (which was fully reviewed). In looking at my metal SL2500, the rear landing gear were removed sometime after the posted renders were done.

If I moved the CR up, some other person would complain that it's not on-center and not where the boom-connection was. Centered looks better and looks count too.

The arcs being what they are, I'm not going to get into. I'm not the designer of the ship, nor the modeler for the CR. If SVC wants changes, I'll make them.