Archive through August 22, 2013

Star Fleet Universe Discussion Board: Prime Directive RPG: General Discussions: Compilation of names in fiction: Archive through August 22, 2013
By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Monday, August 12, 2013 - 01:28 pm: Edit

Human: check the phone book

Klingon: something that starts with a K and is a powerful name. Ketrick, Kumerian, Kalinda, Karisma, Kopek.

Romulan: something sort of roman.

Kzinti: something that starts with "Cat Who"

Tholian: Well, there was a guy named Sectane and a guy named Kotheme.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Monday, August 12, 2013 - 01:32 pm: Edit

Romulan, CL43 story: Bellus Urbanis Antreidies, Crellus Antonius, Moras, Clavius, Orsini.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Tuesday, August 13, 2013 - 11:43 am: Edit

Jean, please move this somewhere more general.

I'll give a research bar to anyone who posts 25 names with proper citations. (Jean will give an example of that.) Obviously, if somebody posted a name nobody else gets credit for posting the same name.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Tuesday, August 13, 2013 - 11:48 am: Edit

Ooops, I just got 17 research ribbons.

application/pdfIndex of Characters.pdf
index_of_characters.pdf (60 k)


This is an old file that was not maintained and I'm not sure where we stopped entering names.

By Garth L. Getgen (Sgt_G) on Tuesday, August 13, 2013 - 01:12 pm: Edit

Very cool. Thanks. I think I'll try to re-arrange that list to group by races.


Garth L. Getgen

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Tuesday, August 13, 2013 - 02:10 pm: Edit

50m, 100m, and relay?

By Richard B. Eitzen (Rbeitzen) on Tuesday, August 13, 2013 - 02:21 pm: Edit

Wacky?

By Loren Knight (Loren) on Tuesday, August 13, 2013 - 02:26 pm: Edit

"Empires" Garth... :)


SVC: Do you know - or have a good guess - when the list was last maintained (so we can start from there)?

By Jean Sexton (Jsexton) on Tuesday, August 13, 2013 - 02:41 pm: Edit

Highest CL was CL#16.

Highest SL was 144

Highest SN was 117.

However, Ryan Opel may have a more updated list.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Tuesday, August 13, 2013 - 02:57 pm: Edit

Let's try something.

My theory (inspired by Garth's note) was to change the thing to excel, and then crowd-build it.

Here's my theory of the format

application/pdfCharacter Database Excel.pdf
character_database_excel.pdf (5 k)


Garth, fire up your excel and do a table like that one (same columns) but just do about three chracters. Email it to me. If I can import it without crashing the Mac (or move it somewhere else that won't crash) we can all take a section of old or new data and get this done in jig time.

By A. David Merritt (Adm) on Tuesday, August 13, 2013 - 03:22 pm: Edit

SVC: Which version/year of Office do you use? That may make a difference.

By Gary Carney (Nerroth) on Tuesday, August 13, 2013 - 03:25 pm: Edit

For the time being, is this list only to be for Alpha Octant names or characters?

By Garth L. Getgen (Sgt_G) on Tuesday, August 13, 2013 - 04:41 pm: Edit

No, Loren, not empires. In this case, "races" is correct. Or species, if you prefer. There are many races/species in a given empire.


Garth L. Getgen

By Jean Sexton (Jsexton) on Tuesday, August 13, 2013 - 05:15 pm: Edit

Species, Garth. That is what is correct unless you are writing about the three races of Gorns.

By Loren Knight (Loren) on Tuesday, August 13, 2013 - 05:30 pm: Edit

Yeah, I was just refering to SVCs reply but should have said "Species". My response was meant to be tongue in cheek.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Tuesday, August 13, 2013 - 05:54 pm: Edit

Species, not races. Races are a subdivision of species.

I use a very old Mac excel. Some people can send me excel files I can use, others aren't so lucky.

Another option may be to use any generic word processor and put tabs between fields. Those can be copied and pasted quite easily.

But I do invite anybody to send me a sample file and let me see if it will open, copy, and not crash. Those lucky enough to win that lottery can work on the project.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Tuesday, August 13, 2013 - 06:01 pm: Edit

Gary, sure, Omega is good, but you get a research bar for doing an entire captain's log, not one story, so the only way to get omega characters in here is to get every character in a log.

Note that some non-CL products only have a page or two of fiction and you get a hearty "well done" but no research bar for those. We may say you get a bar for doing 25 pages of chracter-producing prose in multiple products (or 25 character citations) but you again have to do entire products.

As for the names already on the old list, any of them, you get a bar for reformatting (let's say) 50 of them. But you have to say what part of the list you're going to do, and then you only have a week to do it.

And nobody even gets to start until you have established a workable relationship to my Mac.

If somebody does a product and misses a name you can include it in a batch you send but only the first to report it gets counted.

By Lawrence Bergen (Lar) on Wednesday, August 14, 2013 - 08:52 am: Edit

CL45 data doesn't seem to be in that list...I got that one.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Wednesday, August 14, 2013 - 01:43 pm: Edit

Lar, you have to send me a trial run first. If I cannot digest your files, we're all just wasting time.

CL17 through CL47 are not on that list.

I am looking into some options on software. What the Mac will eat is unpredictable and unstable. I need to see if I can produce PDFs from the PC (or somehow get the PC excel files into the Mac), the PC has a fairly recent version of Open Office.

By Lawrence Bergen (Lar) on Wednesday, August 14, 2013 - 11:57 pm: Edit

Okay, I should mimic the excel format above, correct?

If so I will format it and send it tomorrow.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Thursday, August 15, 2013 - 12:24 am: Edit

Yes

By Garth L. Getgen (Sgt_G) on Thursday, August 15, 2013 - 09:50 am: Edit


Quote:

By Jean Sexton: Species, Garth. That is what is correct unless you are writing about the three races of Gorns.



Well, then, technically, I was correct. Within a given empire, there are several species, each of which may have three or four or five races, each with their own language and thus own naming conventions. [GRIN]

As SVC pointed out, the human species is one of the best examples of that. There's no reason to think that there can't be five races of Kzinti, is there? Of course, it doesn't have to be "races" but caste that determines how someone is named. Perhaps Klingon warrior castes like to use "K" a lot, but maybe the farmer caste prefers names beginning with "R".


Garth L. Getgen

By Loren Knight (Loren) on Thursday, August 15, 2013 - 10:09 am: Edit

No, the pirate caste likes names beginning with Rrrr. It's a universal thing.

:O

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Tuesday, August 20, 2013 - 04:26 pm: Edit

Lar's files work.

application/pdfCharacter Database Excel 2C.pdf
character_database_excel_2c.pdf (9 k)


I haven't decided whether to continue the empire-based colors. I was just trying it out. I have a file saved both ways.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Thursday, August 22, 2013 - 11:04 am: Edit

I have been doing a few names from the ancient database each day, converting them to excel.

application/pdfCharacter Database Excel 2.pdf
character_database_excel_2.pdf (13 k)


Excuse me while I put a marker here so I can find this topic easier. (We need to relocate it.)

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