Federation Commander

[ericphillips]

I assume that a burn through on shields does not count as internal damage for this award. Otherwise this is a cheap score, IMO. I would think internals means getting the shields down and scoring at least one internal.

I would also assume that the award is given if you score an internal after someone else brings the shield down but scores no internals, or if the opponent has dropped a shield.

In the last case, if he drops a shield for whatever reason, and I hit and run him, disabling an internal, do I get the reward?

[storeylf]

Internal damage is internal damage whether via burnthrough or not, and irrespective of why the shields were down (or not). H&R also is irrelvant, if the target has internal damage he has internal damage. Ditto for things like orion engine damage and Andro panel cascade, it all counts for victory purposes barring some scenario special rule.

Personally I wouldn't want to start tracking how I took certain damage - that warp was burnthrough and that phaser was H&R and I'm repairing this system that you would otherwise have scored points for. Oh and you would have crippled me except for that first point of burnthrough, so that doesn't count. No thanks, keep it simple.

[terryoc]

Self-inflicted damage from Orion engine doubling is also counted.
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[storeylf]

Mmm - This did make me reread the victory section, and note the non-allied players rule, so a related question:

How do you decide which players damage got repaired for the purposes of the 'ignore repaired boxes' bit? Does the repairing ship have to declare that he repaired the warp box hit by player X, and do you have to track that player X even scored a warp hit in the first place! Seems a bit complex (to much bookkeeping) to me.

[Kang]

I've always thought that too. Basically I just give the points (it is only 10%, after all) to any player who scored damage. If it's a self-inflicted point (like Orion hyped engine damage) then again both enemy ships get the points. He doubled the engines because of the presence of both ships, after all!
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[mjwest]