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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 4:10 pm    Post subject: Star Fleet Battles Module C6: Lost Empire Reply with quote

When does this product come out? I originally thought July 1 but then heard end of August. What will the price be on the product when it comes out? As I understand it, both are going to be brought up to around General War era tech?

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Latest word over on the BBS is October, but I wouldn't advise making any concrete plans until it actually hits the presses.

(The "Curse of Module C6" has been a difficult one to exorcise, it seems...)

The finalised ship list was posted over on the C6 development section of the BBS, and includes both "pre-war" and "wartime" hulls for the Carnivons and Alpha-Paravians, as they would have existed had each species survived into the "modern" tactical warp era. (So no first-generation X-ships are on the list.)

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Final Paravian counters (140):

Battleship and Variants (4 Counters)
Battleship BB
Stellar Domination Ship SDS
Battleship Carrier BBV
Battleship Mothership BMS

Dreadnought and Variants (5 Counters)
Dreadnought DN
Heavy Dreadnought DNH
Space Control Ship SCS
Heavy Carrier CVA
Raid Mothership RMS

Light Dreadnought (1 Counter)
Light Dreadnought DNL

Heavy Battlecruiser and Variants (3 Counters)
Battlecruiser BCH
Battle Carrier BCV
Battle Control Ship BCS

Heavy Cruiser and Variants (6 Counters)
Heavy Cruiser CA (2)
Command Cruiser CC
Strike Carrier CVS
Survey Cruiser SR
Fast Cruiser CF

Tug (1 Counter)
Tug TG

Light Cruiser (3 Counters)
Light Cruiser Leader CLL
Light Cruiser Leader CL (2)

War Cruiser and Variants (12 Counters)
War Cruiser CW (2)
War Cruiser Leader CWL
War Cruiser Carrier CWV
Escort War Cruiser CWE/A (2)
Fast War Cruiser CWF
Commando War Cruiser CWG
War Cruiser Minesweeper CWM
War Cruiser PF Tender CWP
War Cruiser Scout CWS
Light Tactical Transport LTT

Heavy War Destroyers (2 Counters)
Heavy War Destroyer HDW (2)

Destroyer (3 Counters)
Destroyer Leader (DDL)
Destroyer DD (2)

War Destroyers and Variants (11 Counters)
War Destroyer DW (2)
War Destroyer Leader DWL
Escort War Destroyer DWE/A (2)
War Destroyer Carrier DWV
War Destroyer Scout DWS
War Destroyer Minesweeper DWM
Commando War Destroyer DWG
War Destroyer PF Tender DWP
War Destroyer Transport DWT

Frigate and Variants (11 Counters)
Frigate FF (2)
Frigate Leader FFL
Fast Carrier Resupply Ship FCR
Escort Frigate FFE/A (2)
Carrier Frigate FFV
Scout Frigate FFS
Strategic Transport FFT
Mine Hunter FFM
Commando Frigate FFG

Police Cutter and Variants (5 Counters)
Police Ship POL (3)
Police Flagship FLG
Police Carrier POLV

Pods (2 Counters)
Pods (2)

Gunboats (12 Counters)
Fast Patrol Ships (12)

Fighters (24 Counters)
Fighters (24)

Bombers (6 Counters)
Bombers (6)

Quantum Wave Torpedoes (20 Counters)
Single Torpedoes (16)
Multiple Torpedoes (4)

Shuttles (9 Counters)
Shuttles (9)


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Final Carnivon counters (140):

Battleship and Variants (3 Counters)
Battleship BB
Stellar Domination Ship SDS
Battleship Carrier BBV

Dreadnought and Variants (4 Counters)
Dreadnought DN
Heavy Dreadnought DNH
Heavy Carrier CVA
Space Control Ship SCS

Light Dreadnought (1 Counter)
Light Dreadnought DNL

Heavy Battlecruiser and Variants (3 Counters)
Heavy Battlecruiser BCH
Battle Carrier BCV
Battle Control Ship BCS

Heavy Cruiser and Variants (7 Counters)
Heavy Cruiser CA (2)
Command Cruiser CC
Death Bolt Cruiser CB
Fast Cruiser CF
Strike Carrier CVS
Survey Cruiser SR

Tug (1 Counter)
Tug TG

Light Cruiser (3 Counters)
Light Cruiser Leader CLL
Light Cruiser CL (2)

War Cruiser and Variants (13 Counters)
War Cruiser CW (2)
War Cruiser Leader CWL
Death Bolt War Cruiser CWB
War Cruiser Carrier CWV
Escort War Cruiser CWE/A (2)
Fast War Cruiser CWF
Commando War Cruiser CWG
War Cruiser Minesweeper CWM
War Cruiser PF Tender CWP
War Cruiser Scout CWS
Light Tactical Transport LTT

Heavy War Destroyer (2 Counters)
Heavy War Destroyer HDW (2)

Destroyer (3 Counters)
Destroyer Leader DDL
Destroyer DD (2)

War Destroyer and Variants (11 Counters)
War Destroyer DW (2 )
War Destroyer Leader DWL
Escort War Destroyer DWE/A (2)
War Destroyer Carrier DWV
War Destroyer Scout DWS
War Destroyer Minesweeper DWM
Commando War Destroyer DWG
War Destroyer PF Tender DWP
War Destroyer Transport DWT

Frigate and Variants (11 Counters)
Frigate FF (2)
Frigate Leader FFL
Fast Carrier Resupply Ship FCR
Escort Frigate FFE/A (2)
Carrier Frigate FFV
Scout Frigate FFS
Strategic Transport FFT
Mine Hunter FFM
Commando Frigate FFG

Police Cutter and Variants (5)
Police Ship POL (3)
Police Flagship FLG
Police Carrier POLV

Pods (2 Counters)
Pods (2)

Gunboats (12 Counters)
Fast Patrol Ships (12)

Fighters (24 Counters)
Fighters (24)

Bombers (6 Counters)
Bombers (6)

Death Bolts (20 Counters)
Single Death Bolts (16)
Multiple Death Bolts (4)

Shuttles (9 Counters)
Shuttles (9)

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had no idea of the issues facing this module, and I'm sorry to hear about SPP's health issues even more so than those facing the module. Hoping that it goes better all the way around for everyone and everything.

Well, I'm only one person but know that I'll be looking forward to when it comes out and will plan on getting my copy.

Thanks for listing all of the info Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Paravians are done, and he's done 40 of the 65 Carnivons.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve Cole wrote:
The Paravians are done, and he's done 40 of the 65 Carnivons.


That's looking pretty close to being done. I'm 'supposing' then that the next steps are printing and shipping? Is there a target date?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The last target date I posted was October. Now I'm thinking maybe we can drag that up to 23 or 16 September.

He will use all of the week of 25-31 to finish SSDs, MSC, R sections, and Annexes.

Figure the week of 1-7 September to finish the scenarios and weapons rules.

16 September is (barely) doable, but since I'm taking the 17th off (and maybe the 16th as well) the 23rd may be a better guess. We'll see how it goes.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there any progress on the Carnivon mapsheet?


For those who haven't seen it yet, the Paravians already have Mapsheet P, which was previewed over on the BBS:



A similar map is set to appear in C6 for the Carnivon side of things, but would need more work (since it is said to extend into "new" hexes beyond the top-left corner of the Federation and Empire map).
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll print the new map in the product, not post it on line.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BTW, we currently are walking the "release on 23 Sept" memo around the bulding.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A new preview shows a glimpse of both the front and back covers.

I've been spending a fair bit of time with reading BattleTech books as of late, and I found it interesting that in this case, the "wolves" are the ones who have green counters, and the "birds" the ones in red. I am sure some in that other universe would prefer it was the other way around, quiaff?

On another note, this may not be the last time the Paravians are offered alongside a wolf-like species in SFB terms. One of the proposed "new empire" modules for Omega would offer those Paravians alongside the Vulpa and Nucians (who themselves are ethnically Vulpa).
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On September 26, 2013, at 9:30 pm EDT, Steven Petrick will appear on Star Fleet Universe On Call, the call-in talk radio show hosted by Paul Franz. Steven should have answers to all sorts of questions about SFB Module C6. Need more information about how to chat?

Star Fleet Universe On Call (Talk Shoe ID: 17702) between 9:30pm and 10:30pm Eastern Time

(URL: http://www.talkshoe.com/tc/17702)

If you want to call in, just call 724-444-7444 and enter the Talkshoe ID.

It is also downloadable as a Podcast for those that can not make it. Also, if you can't make it but would like to have a particular subject discussed, email Paul Franz before the show and he will see what he can do.

If you have problem with the Talk Shoe website go to:

http://www.talkshoe.com

and if there is still a problem refresh. Then do a search for call 17702.

We at ADB, Inc. hope to hear you there!
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SVC just posted this Carnivon map preview over on the BBS.

(The top map refers to a timeline where the Carnivons survived in their corner of space through to the start of the General War. The bottom map shows what might have happened had some of their forces made it to the WYN Cluster, and used it as a launchpad for a later round of conquest.)
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just want to say that I am very excited about C6 and the opportunity to fly Middle Years and General War era Carnivon ships!

Can't wait til its out!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SFB Module C6 is now up for sale on our storefront. It will ship on September 30 to people who order it from us.

http://store.starfleetstore.com/merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=S&Product_Code=5636&Category_Code=SNWM

Historically, the Carnivons were destroyed by the Kzintis and Lyrans, while the Paravians were accidentally made extinct by the Gorns. What if they had survived to the General War?

This module includes 120 SSDs defining the ships they would have built, plus the rules for their advanced weapons and the battles they would have fought.

For the Carnivons, we provide two alternate histories based on actual events. The Carnivons almost united until the leader was assassinated. Two of their hordes were destroyed on the edge of the WYN cluster after considering a suicide dive into its radioactive walls. Either would have resulted in a real and very powerful Carnivon Empire that would have been unwilling to ally with either feline empire.

Paravian history also depends on a single leader, Marengo Firecloud Wildfeather, who (historically) tried to convince the other wing lords to stop raiding and start building colonies. Had he succeeded, the Paravians would have built an empire at the expense of the Gorns and ISC, and the ISC would never have become the peacemakers they historically were. While Marengo's campaign failed, he did build the remote colony of Wingatha, where those Paravians who survived the Gorn campaign gathered to decide their future. They could have built a world there and returned to raiding, but instead they headed for the Omega Sector.

Includes 122-page rulebook, 138-page SSD book, 280 die-cut counters.

For more information, see: http://www.starfleetgames.com/lostempire.shtm
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 27, 2013 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yay Very Happy

Cover me I'm going in for the pre-order! Cool
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